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Gadgets, Then & Now

An anonymous reader writes in to tell us about "A funny article about gadgets from the 70's & 80's compared to gadgets of today. Amazing that you can fit 25,000 5 1/4 diskettes on one 8GB compact flash, and phones weighed 11.5 pounds! "

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  1. Holy Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Batman! by fatduck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gee willikers! Remember when cars looked like this?? Wacky! Or remember when the earth looked like this?!!? Times sure are a changin'!

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    1. Re:Holy Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Batman! by mctk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remember when computers looked like this?

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    2. Re:Holy Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Batman! by hackstraw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Remember when computers looked like this?

      For those that don't know, "computer" used to be a job description. They were typically women that did parallel processing and redundant calculations by hand for places like NASA and the government.

      Its amazing, at least to me how fast computation has gotten, and how slow computation is still for scientists and engineers today. Even if a supercomputer could give an answer immediately like a google search, they will still find things that will burn CPUs for days, weeks, months, or years.

    3. Re:Holy Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Batman! by kimvette · · Score: 5, Funny

      And here is the event which spawned NASA:

      Truman: "Whistlin dixy! I want this sent to Area 51 for study!"
      General: "But Sir! That's where we're building our fake moon landing set."
      Truman: "Then we'll have to really land on the moon. Invent NASA and tell them to get off their fannies!"

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  2. Wow, what a great comparison of 70s-80s vs now by bogie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A whole six items. *cough*

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    1. Re:Wow, what a great comparison of 70s-80s vs now by koweja · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, they didn't have as many things back then. They were happy with their six pieces of technology.

    2. Re:Wow, what a great comparison of 70s-80s vs now by DesireCampbell · · Score: 5, Funny

      We were happy, and we had to walk three miles, uphill, through snow to get them too!

      Ya damn kids.

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    3. Re:Wow, what a great comparison of 70s-80s vs now by rs79 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Always be suspicious when there's more google ads than information.

      5" floppies? Bah, those were for children. Real men used 8" floppies. They worked. The 5" ones were always flakey.

      The first videogame machine I bought was Pong. $300. Sound retarded? Yeah I thought so too. I took it back 2 days later for a refund.

      I didn't know anybody with an 8-track car player. They were as stupid then as they seem now. Lots of people has casette decks though which really only became obsolete in fairly recent memory.

      The price of things was fairly different. My first decent color monitor did 800x600 and cost $3500 1984 dollars. Yesterday I bought a nearly new 21" Sony 2000xwhatever for $2 in Sally Ann.

      Gas was forty four cents a gallon the first time I filled up my $700 two year old Italian sportscar.

      Nobody had a portable phone back then. Everybody has a pulse rotary phone. Here in Canada we still pay $2/mo on our phone bill for "pushbutton" service.

      Acoustic couplers (300 baud) vs. DSL modems would have been good to include.

      A carbon dioxide laser was millions of dollars and 30 feet long. Now they're $1000 on flea-bay and fit in a briefcase.

      Tha cancer cure rate hasn't changed since the 60s. We can detect it earlier. Actually that's also true if you compare it to 1902.

      SCO were assholes for as long as they've been around. So was Bill Gates. And Woz.

      A Hasselblad was then and is still the best camera.

      Back then you could get stuff repaired. Timex in the 50's invented the "it's cheaper to give you a new one than even look at the defective POS we sold you" philosophy.

      Kids grew long hair to rebel. Now they cut their arms.

      We lived in fear of nuclear war and flu pandemic. Just like today.

      I can't find most of my flashcards. My old flexible diskettes still work amazingly. I have several broken digital cameras. My Canon AE1 still works.

      You can buy today, a working, drivable diesel Mercedes for the price of changing the spark plugs on a new gas one.

      Popular science was more science and less popular back then. And had a helluva lot more pages.

      The price of a neon tetra hasn't changed in 30 years. An S class Mercedes cost 20X what it did 30 years ago. But it's the same price adjusted for inflation.

      Windows was a bad idea in the 80's. It's worse now. Unix was cool in the 70's and actually worked.

      I really think if somebody had slept for 30 years and woken up today it would take them about 10 minutyes to catch up. And then they'd say "this is IT?!?"

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    4. Re:Wow, what a great comparison of 70s-80s vs now by arminw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      .....Actually that's also true if you compare it to 1902."....

      The cancer and heart attack rate in 1902 was much less than today. People died from infectious diseases, such as TB, flu, pneumonia, polio and others. However, the death rate today, overall, is still exactly what it always was, 100%.

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  3. "...phones weighed 11.5 pounds" by magetoo · · Score: 5, Funny
    Regarding phones, it's probably a bigger change that the word has changed meaning.
    (It used to mean "that thing that you plug into the wall that lets you talk to other people far away", for you kids. Yes, outlets in the wall, at your home.)

    I wonder how you'd explain todays über-gadgets to someone from the eighties. "This? Oh, it's my .. um, tricorder. Yeah, that's it."

  4. The downside by Doubting+Maxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The downside is that techology seems to be getting more unreliable, from a user perspective.

    I'm on my third PS2 right now, but my Atari 2600 (still fun!) works like new...

  5. "The tchotchke society" by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone--I think it was Robert Kuttner but can't find the reference--was trying to explain the "paradox" that all of the economic figures seem good, yet polls consistently show U. S. citizens are pessimistic about the economic future.

    His belief is that the problem is that the official inflation figures contain a mixture of prices for things like consumer electronics gadgets, which have continuously decreased in price, and things like healthcare costs and college tuition, which have continuously increased in price at far faster rate than "the" inflation rate.

    The problem is that things like healthcare and education are much more important ultimately than cellular phones that can show video.

    He said that we are turning into "a tchotchke society," rich in frivolous gadgets but poor in literacy rates, infant mortality, etc.

    I love my iPod, but I'm worried about my medical insurance.

    1. Re:"The tchotchke society" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The economic figures only look good to extreme casual observers because they keep removing important indices from the consumer price indicies. Examples are food and fuel costs, they no longer count for some reason, yet they used to use them. Uhh, seems like those are some important necessary bills there.. Another one - 30 years ago (around then) housing costs were considered expensive once you cracked 25% of your net for the mortgage, now it is 50%. Car loans were 12 months or tops 18 months, now they are 60 months. House notes were ten or at most twenty years, now thirty is common and we have the "no prinicple, interest only" loans as well(IE, never ever paid off, you have the illusion of buying when you are just another class of perpetual renter). That's *severely* downhill. Unemployment stats are another way they make things look rosy "we added 100,000 jobs this quarter!", They sort of neglect to mention that the previous quarter they lost over 100,000 well paying jobs in wealth-creation (such as manufacturing) with bennies and replaced them with half price lower paying jobs in the "service" wealth re-arranging economy with little to no bennies.

      They keep changing the parameters on what is considered "good". US household debt is now 11 trillion dollars. This is considered "good" now when obviously it isn't, what would be "good" is everything paid off, zero debt, and 11 trillion in savings.

      It's going to get worse, there is a big major move to start moving away from the petrodollar to the petroeuro in international oil prices, in fact, I will posit that is the main reason we invaded Iraq, saddam was a notorious bad guy for decades, this was nothing new. We invaded VERY shortly after he switched his oil sales to euros.

      Iran is now less than two months away from their oil bourse denominated in euros. It has taken them awhile to get their ducks in a row with it, but it keeps moving ahead slowly. they sell a LOT of oil around the planet. Even if we invade based on those nuke claims, and the oil production gets wiped out, we could EASILY see 200 buck a barrel oilo. think that won't hurt the global economy? there is NO replacement for that volume of oil on the planet, none, nothing that could be brought online within even two or three years. China is now doing direct swaps, manufactured technology and engineering expertise for energy, eliminating most of any sort of "cash" involved, and their demand is projected to be equal to todays global demand within ten years.

      Now, someone explain why they would want to have to be forced to go through a severe skim by using dollars again for that? They could use their accumulated dollars elsewhere, buying up more extreme high tech, they don't need it just to buy crude or natural gas, not much anyway. And why would europeans want to be forced to use dollars instead of euros for imported energy? Eliminating the middleman skim there with petrodollars results in HUGE savings for them, and energy costs just keep going through the roof,much faster than any other inflationary pressures and dwarfing average wage increases. So let us apply occams razor to the future a little with the US economy. It is being "second worlded" as fast as the pirate globalists can pull it off, and that has been their plan all along. The only reason they didn't do it all at once was to try and avoid a revolutionary backlash,(especially in the US where anti fascist "tools" are still in common ownership) as in an actual physical revolution. They have to do the nice and easy continual rearrangment combined with the mass brainwashing that the thousand cuts are all neglibile. And they want the US second worlded because that is the society they want, full high tech, but basically only two classes of humans, a big global plutocracy. We are right now in the mass switch to the illusion of voting with blackbox voting. We already passed the illusion of major political party differences once you cut through the soundbites and see what actually happens. Here's a good example how they pl

  6. It's not all benefits. by mrjb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly. Try misplacing 25000 floppy disks.

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  7. Funny thing though by Xcott+Craver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back then, when I pressed "record" on a tape recorder or the shutter button on a camera, it did what I wanted instantaneously.

    None of this goddamn 2-second delay, or booting into the OS for 30 seconds to figure out how to record from the microphone.

    Nowadays I am reluctant to buy any technology unless it does the basic things that technology used to do for me in the 1970s. There's no way I'd go back, of course, but I think one of the great failures of consumer electronics today is that much of it is incapable of basic features 30 years back---largely as a matter of priorities and crappy user interface design.

    Xcott

  8. There are some things I miss from way back by gone.fishing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I already know some of you will just think I'm an old fart fondly remembering a simpler time and confuse it for a better time but that really isn't what I'm trying to do here.

    I liked the styling risks that some companies took back then. I get the sense that it was easier to take risks with consumer products back then.

    My favorite car radio of all times was the Sanyo Tachard radio. It was shaped like a tachometer and locked with a key so that you could remove it. There were a couple of different models, I think one was 8 watts and the other was 32 watts. For the day, the sound quality was excellent and it made the inside of my Fiat 850 Spyder look almost space age.

    RCA made a bedroom stereo that looked like an astronaut's helmet! When you lifted the face shield, the eyes were the controls, the nose the frequency dial, and the mouth was the eight-track deck.

    Initial technology was always interesting too:

    The VIC-20 from Comodore was an exceptional started computer that didn't cost an arm and a leg. It ran a form of basic that was fun to learn and use. It really was a toy and could be used to play games.

    The Sinclair ZX-80 was an ultimate cheap computer. In many ways it was terrible (especially the keyboard) but it represented a starting point for so many inventive people to perform exparaments and modifications that I have to say it did a lot for the hobby computer industry and probably launched more people into computer related careers than anything else ever has.

    Sometimes what was right and what was commercially successful were in two different worlds.

    The eight-track won out over the cassette at first, despite the fact that it was more complex and lower quality. It litterally took a decade for people to wake up!

    Sony Betamax was hands down better than VHS. It was visibly superior and actually less complex.

    Communications technology was always a big deal.

    My grandfather was a big baseball fan. For Christmas one year he was given a transistor AM radio with one of those really lousy ear-pieces. From April through October it was almost welded to his ear. It was that big a part of his life, I would even call it a life-changing thing for him. He no longer had to miss the game no matter where he went.

    My friend was the first on the block to get color TV. I was so jealous! One night we watched a cop show on his TV and the flashing lights were blue - which made no sense to me because where I was from all cop cars, fire trucks, and ambulances had red lights. It really confused me.

    My hometown was fairly small and dial phone technology came late. I was able to pick up the phone and tell Sarah, the operator that I wanted to talk to my mom and she would actually track her down or if she couldn't she would offer to call one of my grandparents for me! This is one place where technology may actually have been a hinderance for small towns. Today, the operator is likely in a different time-zone and has no knowlege of your town.

    My dad was a volinteer fireman and we had a "fire phone" in our home for years. If the phone rang steady, you picked up the phone and listened and you would hear the actual person reporting the fire or, in the event of a "second alarm" or "mutual aid" call a dispatcher. Us kids were taught to always listen if dad was home or to try to ignore the call if he wasn't (we always listened). Most of the cafes and bars in town were also wired into the fire phone system so that they could pass the word to their fire-fighting customers. I think today's system is far superior to the old solution but not nearly as much fun.

    My '64 Buick had a speed buzzer and auto-dimming headlights. Features I loved. I would almost rather have the buzzer than cruise control today. I really wish my truck had auto-dimming headlights. I am really glad that it corners better and stops faster than my '64 Buick did though. Believe it or not, my 2000 Dodge 5.2L RAM gets about the same MPG as my '64 Buick did and, the '64 Buick had a 401 CID "Wildcat 445" engine and a 4bbl carb!