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Congress To Restrict Social Security Number Use

diverge_s writes "News.com.com has an article detailing a long overdue attempt Congress is making to restrict the use of Social Security Numbers. From the article: 'In both the House and the Senate, there are at least three pieces of pending legislation that propose different approaches to restricting the use and sale of SSNs. Politicians have expressed astonishment at what they see as a rising identity fraud problem, frequently pointing to a 2003 Federal Trade Commission survey that estimated nearly 10 million consumers are hit by such intrusions each year.'"

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  1. Band-aid on a gunshot wound. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful


    All the proposals mentioned in the article are merely band-aids on a system that is fundamentally broken. Any competently designed identification system consists of two parts: the public identifier, and the private key. The problem with SSNs is that you have a system where one number is simultaneously the public and private parts of the system, which dooms it to failure every time.

    Making new rules limiting the sale and purchase of SSNs, or restricting the display of SSNs on reports, is just closing the barn door after the hore has already left.

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    1. Re:Band-aid on a gunshot wound. by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Insightful
      All the proposals mentioned in the article are merely band-aids on a system that is fundamentally broken. Any competently designed identification system consists of two parts: the public identifier, and the private key. The problem with SSNs is that you have a system where one number is simultaneously the public and private parts of the system, which dooms it to failure every time.

      From the article: The SSN hasn't always had such broad applications. Back in 1935, Congress first directed the Social Security Administration to develop an accounting system to track payments to the fund. Out of that mandate came a unique identifier that has ultimately found applications in everything from issuing food stamps to tracking down money launderers.

      This is what happens in the modern age, when previous devices are outstripped by new uses for them. The SSN number started out as simply an identifier for the purposes of calculating benefits and recording taxes. It has turned into a universal identifier, but has not fundamentally changed at all. It's very easy to forge a Social Security card, and the accessibility of SSN data tied to all sorts of other information makes it far too easy to compromise.

      As an aside, other than the fact it doesn't contain a photo, the SS card is pretty much a national id card.

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  2. shared secret by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many companies and government organizations use the SSN as some kind of shared secret for the purposes of establishing identity.

    This law wants to prop up this model.

    THIS IS A STUPID MODEL.

    There are much better ways of establishing identity than using the SSN.

    What we need to do is STOP USING SSN TO ESTABLISH IDENTITY!!!

    Then it can be public, you can post it wherever you want, and we won't have to deal with the impossible problem of putting the cat back in the bag.

    Government issued smartcards, with a simple PKI (and revocation system) would be a perfect method for establishing identity. We need to put the money in to that, not trying to keep some unchangable number secret.

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    1. Re:shared secret by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are describing the potential abuses by a government for such a system, jumping immediately to the conclusion that if it exists, the government will abuse it.

      You ignore the fact that when a power is ceded to a government, it's extremely difficult to revoke. When we instituted the census, for example, we didn't anticipate it being used to round up people and put them in concentration camps, but that's precisely what the FBI did under Roosevelt.

      Perhaps you trust the government with this power today, but I do not trust all future administrations with this power.

      The truth of the matter, is that the US needs a national id card

      Like hell we do.

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  3. They will fix this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...by requiring the use of a RealID number instead of an SS#. This is how they will force RealID down everyone's throat.

  4. It's About Time by BigCheese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Go read the article. The proposed legislation sounds reasonable. It should have been done years ago.

    Now, what sort of evil riders will be attached?

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  5. Repeat after me... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A SSN is just a name, a public identifier, or a login username if you will. It is _not_ a password or authentication mechanism (for that matter, neither is my mother's maiden name or street address). Using a SSN+address for authentication is as ridiculous as using a username+IPAddress alone for online banking.

    I wonder why more companies/organizations don't realize this, and any step to educate them is a step in the right direction.

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  6. Just in the nick of time by Mouth+of+Sauron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    *NOT*

    Wait... What's this printed on the back of my Social Security card? "Not to be used for identification purposes."

    Having been the victim of identity theft and credit card fraud, I have to say this is probably too little too late. I've had over $20,000 in fraudulent charges made in my name -- items ranging from electronic equipment to beer and gasoline. The Social Security number is already the de facto citizen identification number, even if it is not de jure.

    Some culpability lies in the lap of merchant businesses, as well. In one case, a company sent a credit card application issued in my name to an old address. The occupant filled it out and began making purchases. When the bill came due, the collections agency had no problem tracking me down to give notice. In my opinion, this merchant could have been more dilligent, because I had asked them to cancel my account years before this happened. They were certainly dilligent when it came to getting paid.