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Google Releases AJAX Framework

maquina writes "Google released a new AJAX framework based on Java. From Google's mouth: "Google Web Toolkit (GWT) is a Java software development framework that makes writing AJAX applications like Google Maps and Gmail easy for developers who don't speak browser quirks as a second language." This impressive framework promises to make AJAX available to the masses and is one more step towards Google becoming the de facto Internet platform provider."

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  1. Yeah, right.. by schon · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yahoo has already done this

    No, they haven't - at least not unless you have some other information you're not sharing.

    From the Google site:
    You write your front end in the Java programming language, and the GWT compiler converts your Java classes to browser-compliant JavaScript and HTML.

    From the Yahoo link you provided:
    To use a specific component from the YUI Library, include the path to that library in a <script> tag within your web page.

    So, how is this the same thing?
  2. Re:The best feature of this toolkit by seizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not quite a "brand new direction" - Microsoft's Atlas product has been offering something along these lines for a while now (albeit still as a beta). You lay out controls visually in Visual Studio (or Express), and control them programmatically from .NET. It takes care of rendering them down to HTML + Javascript, and it's pretty much cross platform friendly.

  3. The license is restrictive.. mods prohibited by HighOrbit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Prohibited Actions

    Except for distributions for internal business and/or personal use to your employees or contractors in compliance with these Terms and Conditions, you may not distribute Google Web Toolkit Development Tools or any services or software associated with or derived from them, or modify, copy, license, or create derivative works from Google Web Toolkit Development Tools, unless you obtain Google's written permission in advance. If you wish to do any of the above, please contact us by emailing apis@google.com. You may not use the Google Web Toolkit Development Tools to develop or distribute products that violate the law or legal rights of third parties.


    No, I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth and why does this matter? Because I happen to prefer PHP for web development (just a personal preference). It would be nice to be able to move the JavaScript components off from the Java framework into a PHP based framework. Well, apparantly you can't do that without special permission.

    BTW, the Yahoo UI Library is BSD licensed.

    1. Re:The license is restrictive.. mods prohibited by Dorktrix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have your attorney review the terms -- I think you are misunderstanding them. You may not redistribute GWT itself (the actual zip files containing the GWT compiler, among other things), but you own all output from the tools. We even released the source code to the class libraries under the Apache 2.0 open source license.

      GWT is available for commercial, non-commercial, and enterprise use with almost no strings attached. Please review the complete terms for details:

      http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/terms.html

      Bret Taylor
      Product Manager, Google Web Toolkit

  4. Re:The best feature of this toolkit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "I think Google is mostly responsible for launching the AJAX trend"
     
    Er, nope. Hard as it is to believe, Microsoft were there first with the awesome Outlook Web Access which mimics Outlook, on a web page really, really well. This used their XMLHTTP ActiveX object which is also used extensively in Windows Update.
     
    The rest happened from there really. Google is probably the best known current implementer of AJAX, but good as they are I certainly wouldn't say they launched it... and I certainly wish world + dog would stop releasing AJAX frameworks!

  5. Nope - OWA was closed. by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, but I have to give it to someone other than Microsoft. While they did essentially invent the tech behind Ajax, the only major project they used it on was basically something that was closed. I don't mean source, but not open to the public. You only saw it if you had an organization using Outlook/Exchange in the first place, which still excluded a huge majority of people using the web. Had they ported hotmail to the OWA interface, that would have been a major revolution far greater than google maps or anything else. But they didn't.

  6. Re:The best feature of this toolkit by badfish99 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's a much better implementation of the same idea that's been available for some time now: http://zk1.sourceforge.net/

    It's not "beta" like this half-baked "me-too" from google, and it's open-source.Also commercial support is available it you want to pay for it.

  7. Re:Google a Java shop? by chrisd · · Score: 5, Informative

    We use Java, C++, Python and a smattering of other languages for user facing stuff.
    Chris

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    Co-Editor, Open Sources
    Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.