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Symantec Sues Microsoft, May Delay Vista

AuMatar writes "Symantec filed a lawsuit against Microsoft over patents on the volume management technology in Vista. They're seeking an injunction to stop Vista from being sold until the suit is completed. Given the recent Supreme Court ruling it should be interesting to see if the injunction is granted, since Symantec does produce software which uses the patent. If it is granted, expect MS to settle to prevent another Vista delay."

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  1. Interesting ploy by bblazer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What Symantec is doing is rather interesting. Either asking for an injunction is to truly stop MS from causing their business damage, or it is just a lever to get into MS's checkbook. Either way, it is going to be interesting to see how this one plays out. While Symantec is not the 600lb gorilla the MS is, it is certainly in the 300lb range.

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    1. Re:Interesting ploy by sdnoob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      a. symantec's bottom line needs the influx of settlement cash

      b. they've got no chance in hell of finishing vista-compatible products in time, so they need another delay

      c. they actually have a case.

    2. Re:Interesting ploy by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      d. Symantec has been in talks with microsoft for a while now and microsoft thought they could steam roll over them like they have been accused of doing to so many other companies in the past.

      E. all of the above.

  2. Re:In other news... by SpectreHiro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In celebration of it's release, ID Software and Microsoft are teaming up to release Duke Nukem Forever on the same day!

    3DRealms, not id. Way to botch a lame joke.

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  3. Sick of Lawsuits? by JoshuaJarman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I don't doubt that Symantec has a valid point and that MS is using some of their IP without licensing it I have to ask...

    Am I the only person sick to death of all the lawsuits and patents?

    It seems like the world is getting more and more "locked down".
    There is less and less anyone can do without knowingly or unknowlingly trampling someone else's IP.
    To make matters worse there are Patent Trolls, locking up broad patents with the hopes of suing people to make money.
    Those who can't sue.

    All this has lead me to question the presumptions behind both copyrights and patents.
    They were originally designed to spur innovation by protecting the people who invest their time and resources to research and develop new products or create original content.
    It *SEEMS* to me that both are now acheiving the oppsite goal and limiting and hurting innovation.

    While I don't think we can just get rid of either overnight, I think some careful consideration needs to go into reforming the laws to make sure that they serve their original purposes.

    Just some thoughts that this discussion brought up for me...Cheers.

  4. your point "d" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm... Don't know if Microsoft has been in talks with Symantec, but as for steam rolling over them, I would very much say so (not saying it's necessarily a bad thing though):

    -They're going to offer an antivirus (in addition to their existing spyware removal software), making the use of SAV/NAV/NIS and such junk mostly pointless. [Not counting that most people seem to be moving to other AV apps lately like AVG and such - especially since NAV is getting harder to crack]

    -They're including a basic firewall out of the box (not the best, but NIS is crap, that'd be like downgrading, if someone wants a better firewall, they'll get something that's actually better)

    -Starting with Vista, they're replacing deployment tools, i.e. replacing RIS for WDS, but the interesting point here is XImage, which will likely replace ghost - the only symantec app that wasn't *total* crap yet (although lots of people have moved to/prefer acronis apps instead).

    What's left? Winfax? Nope. Already a basic fax client in windows (it sucks, but I can't say winfax is great either, and most people/businesses that still use faxes nowadays don't do it via PC either). Doubt they sell many licenses.

    Oh, PCAnywhere! Well, terminal services/citrix ICA is what everyone and their dog seems to be using these days (and apps like VNC/radmin). I haven't seen someone using it in a LONG time - definitely NOT mainstream either.

    What else? Partition magic? Bleh. Those who wanted it bought it while it was Powerquest's - and it doesn't even seem to be updated anymore (symantec's specialty seems to be driving products into the ground - like novell seemingly). Buggier than ever, sounds like everyone prefers acronis apps for this nowadays. ...and the list goes on. And their apps are getting a LOT more bothersome for their clients - especially the activation part. Someone I know bought NAV, only to discover it wouldn't let him activate it on 2 PCs or something (unlike the old version), and now it's not working anymore (plus pay for updates - getting too expensive, he moved to AVG too). And incredible bloat (NIS will bring a 2GHz PC to its knees), and countless bugs (we had tremendous problems with SAV at work, countless crashes, problems with office, you name it).

    The only thing they seem to have left that's worth buying is their new acquisition, veritas products. But I'm sure they'll manage to make them suck too, and drive them into the ground like everything else.

    It seems they're not improving anything, they'd be the LEAST innovative company I could think of, and their junk just keeps getting worse.

    Perhaps Veritas licenses alone can't keep the company afloat (unsurprisingly), and they're looking for a ne business model ala SCO (litigation, to prevent a new/better/more secure OS, or plain extorsion)

    I'm sad to see many companies and products having been crushed by Microsoft over the years (OS/2, Corel stuff, you name it), but if there's one company I won't miss, it definitely is Symantec.