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UK Law May Criminalize IT Pros

An anonymous reader writes "More worrying news from the UK. This time, a bill meant to fight cybercrime may make it illegal to use or make available network security tools available, just because they could be used by hackers." From the article: "Clayton cited the Perl scripting language, created by Larry Wall in 1987, as an example of a useful technology that could fall foul of the law. 'Perl is almost universally used on a daily basis to permit the Internet to function,' said Clayton. 'I doubt if there is a sysadmin on the planet who hasn't written a Perl program at some time or another. Equally, almost every hacker who commits an offense under section 1 or section 3 of the CMA will use Perl as part of their toolkit. Unless Larry is especially stupid, and there is very little evidence for that, he will form the opinion that hackers are likely to use his Perl system. Locking Larry up is surely not desirable.'" A note that this is equally confusing but separate from yesterday's story about the UK government wanting private encryption keys.

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  1. Do I see a pattern? by alx5000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the country that criminalized privacy:

    Let's convict Perl users.

    I also heard that something called TPC or TCP is widely used by hax0rs to pwn remote servers. Wait till the UK Government can get their hands on it...

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    My 0.02 cents
    1. Re:Do I see a pattern? by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > From the country that criminalized privacy:
      >
      >Let's convict Perl users.

      First they came for the COBOL programmers, and I was silent,
      Because ADD KEYSTROKES TO SYNTAX GIVING OBFUSCATION was always lame.
      They they came for the BASIC programmers, and I was silent,
      Because I considered GOTO harmful,
      Then they came for the C++ programmers, and I was silent,
      Because I could still write FORTRAN in any language,
      Then they came for the Perl programmers, and now the only way I can win an obfuscated programming contest is to write it in APL.

      (First they ignore you, then they fight you, then they mock you, then they come for the Brainf*ck programmers and their heads explode.)

  2. Using Perl Should Be A Crime by Geldon · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Or at least forcing someone to debug it should

    1. Re:Using Perl Should Be A Crime by Darby · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come on now, that joke is getting really stale.

      Seriously, who can't tell at a glance what this does just isn't paying attention:

      #!/usr/bin/perl
                              +
                             @A=
                            (25,0
                           );@B=(0
                          ,24   +0)
                         ;@C=( 49,24
                        );@X=($")x(40
                       +9)         ;@_
                      =(@X,       $/)x(
                     25);$_[     $A[1*1]
                    *50   +$A   [0]   ]=q
                   /./;+ $_[$B [1*1] *1*50
                  +$B[0]]=qq/./;$_[$C[1]*50
                 +$C                     [0]
                ]="."                   ;@X=(
               $C[0*0]                 ,$C [1]
              );1   *1*               1*1   *1;
             while (394>             (join $",@_
            )=~y/.//){do{           $R=3*rand;@X=
           (((         int         (($         {(A
          ,B,C)       [$R]}       [0*0]       +$X[0
         ])/2+.5     )),int(     (${(A,B     ,C)[$R]
        }[1   *1]   +$X   [1]   )/2   +.5   +0)   ))}
      while $_[$Z =$X[1 ]*50+ $X[0] +0]=~ /\./; $_[$Z
      ]=".";+system$^O=~/[wW]in/?"cls":"clear";pr int@_}

  3. Re:Well then... by dr_dank · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then the criminals will use other languages

    Hey Senor Bob, Let's robbo el banko!

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    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  4. Re:it's the nature of these tools by Jazzer_Techie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the issue is that Perl code can be classified as a form of encryption.

  5. Re:Make computers illegal! by saboola · · Score: 2, Funny

    That will only stop the sloppy hackers. The good ones will pick up a telephone and start making the necessary modem tones with their mouths.

  6. Re:Bits are TEH EVAL! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Funny
    We can't get rid of all the bits! Are you mad??

    I say we just outlaw those hideously dangerous 1's, and let us keep the safe, agreeable, non-pointy 0's.

  7. Re:it's the nature of these tools by lukas84 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, they are quite familiar with listening.

  8. Yay by Rorian · · Score: 2, Funny

    This makes me feel so much better about moving to the UK as an IT professional..

    Why must they always pick on the good, honest guys while the criminals just dodge by their "preventative measures" every time?

    --
    Will program for karma.
  9. WHEN PERL IS OUTLAWED. by atarione · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only outlaws will have

    #!usr/bin/perl

    tshirts http://andrewhitchcock.org/index.pl?page=perl

    --
    actually I am happy to see you, however that is in fact a banana in my pocket.
  10. Re:Doesn't make sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The express purpose of guns, with the exception of hunting rifles, is to shoot people.

    So? Some nails need hammering, some people need shooting.

  11. Re:Bits are TEH EVAL! by shawb · · Score: 2, Funny

    But small children will choke on 0's.

    Won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN????!!??

    --
    I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
  12. Re:"President" Bush? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Presidential Aide: Great news, Mr President!
    President George Bush: I get to play Dumbledore in the next Larry Potter movie?
    Presidential Aide: Ah, no, Sir, no, not from Warner Brothers; we still haven't heard back from them yet, Sir, no. It's from the U.N. Our weapons inspectors are going in.
    President George Bush: And why should I be interestificated in that?
    Presidential Aide: Because we need a report, Sir, before we invade Iraq.
    President George Bush: No we don't! Besides, we're not invading Iraq. We're invading Tiraq. Take a look at the survalence pictures.
    Presidential Aide: Sir... Sir, that's not 'Tiraq', that's 'Tie Rack'; it's a store in Britain that sells ties.
    President George Bush: That's just what they want you to think. You see, they're called 'Tie Rack', but they also sell cufflinks and underpants. And are we meant to acceptify that it's mere coincidenecification that they lurk in every airport and rail station.
    Presidential Aide: Sir, if we invade Tie Rack, you're going to be a laughing stock.
    President George Bush: You mean I have a choice?