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Everyone Hates UMD

PSP-Fanboy writes "More bad news for the UMD, which is already dying a speedy death at retail: not only are stores not stocking them, but no one really wants to buy UMD movies either. Although 40% of PSP owners claimed UMD media was a big reason why they plopped down a few hundred on Sony's pixel-spurting game brick, the complaint from actual owners is there just isn't anything worth goddamn buying on UMD."

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  1. What's new? by grogdamighty · · Score: 4, Insightful
    the complaint from actual owners is there just isn't anything worth goddamn buying on UMD.

    That's the same situation as is happening with recently released DVDs... coincidence? I think not.

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    1. Re:What's new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is poor analysis.

      I work in film. Statistics show that most people become far more discriminating as far as their film tastes go as they get older. The sentiment is always inevitably ushered forth: movies are getting worse, etc.

      I can roughly gauge your age by what you claim you and your friends have done as far as home theaters are concerned. Film is a cyclical business. What this means is that the same kind of films are done over and over again. Universal themes are reintroduced to new generations. Once a person reaches an age when they experience the commencement of another cycle, the new iteration is matched against the original - which holds a place in heart and memory, no doubt. The new iteration cannot win. This is why Hollywood spends it's money appealing to those who are experiencing the cycle for the first time, and the young at heart. If Hollywood spent any considerable amounts of cash trying to please you and those who utter what you say - the business would be sunk.

      The UMD didn't fail because of the quality of movies. It failed because it was yet another format to keep trakc of - a format incompatible with all else. Convergence is the dog's bollocks here. Not another format.

      People aren't going to less movies because of the quality. It's because there's so much else to do. With some initative, $500, and some good pot, I can produce a really interesting movie that I can share with the world. Everyone is getting their 15 picoseconds of fame, or playing WOW or languishing in the throes of porn addiction, or posting on slashdot, or watching one of 500 available channels, or sending pictures of one's dong to prospective fuck buddies (a personal favorite).

      In short, movie quality is always poor to older people. But the quality of everything is always poor to older people. IT has nothing to do with the actual quality of the product but the nature of memory that paints everything in the past with rosy tint. It probably wasn't that rosy the first time around.

      It's a lame lament. If you feel that it's that bad, go cop some good hydro, get wasted and watch it again. Don't forget what it meant to be a kid and enjoy yourself. Trust me.

  2. UMD writers by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would certainly embrace the UMD format if I could purchase a writer for it. I would rather buy a writer and blank media, and transfer my existing media to play on a PSP, but I am not gonna rebuy movies to watch on a PSP when I already have them on DVD.

  3. Wow, how strange... by Bin_jammin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A proprietary format with no option of buying a reader/writer is dying? Hint Sony: your locked formats suck. I'm talking Minidisc, UMD, Beta, MS, etc. Nobody wants to support hardware when the only reason you're locked into it us because the parent company won't license third part manufacturing. You're a company that's on the rocks financially, and this has a lot to do with it. Join the rest of the world with standardized formats and your profits will jump. UMD itself isn't bad, but the fact that I can't write my own means I'll never buy a PSP. Yours truly, The known universe.

    1. Re:Wow, how strange... by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Informative
      AAC is what Apple licensed and rips to by default in iTunes, making song files incompatible with any portable player other than an iPod.
      That's a lie. AAC is just another name for "MPEG-4 Audio" (whereas MP3 is "MPEG-1 Layer 3"). There's no reason why any other portable audio player couldn't choose to support AAC; all they'd have to do is licsense it (from the MPEG people, not Apple).

      The things that only work in iPods are files "protected" by FairPlay DRM, and those only come from iTMS -- iTunes defaults to unprotected AAC for ripping.
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  4. In other news... by one-eye-johnson · · Score: 4, Funny

    the sky is still blue and shooting yourself in the foot still hurts.

  5. *sniff* :'( by UMD · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, fuck you too!

  6. PSP in general was just a huge mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think Sony still has any idea what kind of a giant PR disaster the PSP has been for them.

    All the way through the leadup to the PSP the gaming press was falling all over themselves to fawn over the PSP, predicting glory and conquest for their new handheld overlord. Sony said the PSP would change everything for the handheld market, and the press believed it. Then the PSP came out and it was mostly a dud; the thing didn't get any games worth playing for nearly a year, the sales weren't even high enough to outsell the GBA week to week in America, and an awful lot of the things Sony promised just plain never panned out. Meanwhile in the Japanese market, embarassingly enough, the gimmicky, ugly little Nintendo DS wound up turning into a market revolution bigger than even the PSP's wildest dreams. As the months passed after launch and the PSP increasingly failed to take over the world, the gaming press began to get a bit embarrassed. They began to realize, in the runup to the PSP launch, how many times Sony had lied to them-- and, more importantly, they realized they'd been made to look like fools.

    I think the PS3 coverage has just been one extended backlash from the media for the way Sony used them. Because the PS3 coverage has been if anything the polar opposite of the PSP. The gaming media for the last year or so has bought absolutely none of Sony's hype, and has focused only on the downsides of the PS3-- and if there aren't enough negative things to report about the PS3, they just make some up. The gaming press is gunning for the PS3 to fail just as hard as they once gunned for the PSP to succeed.

    Meanwhile the UMD has been an even bigger disaster for Sony's public relations. Sony is, this year, attempting to promote a media format which is absolutely vital for their future success, the Blu-Ray. Unfortunately they're doing this right on the heels of the unmitigated disaster that was the UMD format. Sony's doing everything right with the Blu-Ray that they did wrong with the UMD; they have actual studio support, the blu-rays will be playable on devices of a wide variety of types and from a wide variety of vendors, and there is clear differentiation with the format the Blu-Ray intends to replace. But the public is seeing all this happen right on the heels of seeing the laughingstock that was the short, sad life of the UMD. And since UMD is still clearly in their minds, the public is seeing Blu-Ray colored through the lens of the UMD venture-- and many of them are expecting Blu-Ray to meet the same messy fate. That's a problem. With something like Blu-Ray, a public perception of failure can become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

    I keep wondering how public perception of the Blu-Ray and PS3 would have been different had the PSP just never happened.

    1. Re:PSP in general was just a huge mistake by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Informative
      I keep wondering how public perception of the Blu-Ray and PS3 would have been different had the PSP just never happened.
      I think it would still be pretty bad, because even if there was no PSP or UMD, there was still Beta, MiniDisc, ATRAC3, MemoryStick, DRM, rootkits, etc.
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  7. Eh, I don't think so by Aladrin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Although 40% of PSP owners claimed UMD media was a big reason why they plopped down a few hundred on Sony's pixel-spurting game brick

    I think if you check with those people again, the REAL reason those 40% bought a PSP was PORTABLE media, not UMD specifically. DVD's are a bit unwieldy to carry and you certainly can't get a dvd player that small. It's about the convenience of a media device that size, not the format.

    If there were an open media format with a multitude of player in that size, I think you'd find a LOT more takers.

    Add in the ability to write that media at will and you've got a hit on your hands. (After the teething phase, of course.)

    As a side note, DVD format suffered from other teething problems like 'low volume' and such. The real 'feature' was an amazing audio range, but that translated into 'too low/too high' audio when played back in any normal setting.

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    1. Re:Eh, I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If there were an open media format with a multitude of player in that size, I think you'd find a LOT more takers.

      Hate me for pointing out a MS product, but a PDA running PocketPC with a worldwide standard flash memory card (many flavours to choose from, SD, CF, etc) will play many different media formats and will play games. Heck, the latest devices have DirectX acceleration on them.

  8. Biggest problem by DesireCampbell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest problem with UMD was the idea that consumers would buy movies on UMD. Which wouldn't have been too outlandish, if the UMD movies cost less than DVD versions.

    Why would anyone pay 30 bucks for a movie that you con only play on that little screen?

    UMD as a game-format isn't a bad idea - every portable game system has it's own format.

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  9. Two UMDs? by Supurcell · · Score: 4, Funny

    So that's where all those Double U.M.D.s went.

    (If you don't get it, say it out loud a few times.)

  10. Don't blame UMD by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When there's no content worth getting, it doesn't matter if it's on UMD, DVD or HDDVD.

    Crap stays crap. No matter how high the resolution.

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  11. Memory stick killed UMD for me... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would I buy a UMD movie when I can rip it to my 1 GB memory stick and watch it from there? I can't really tell the difference between Spider-Man II on UMD and ripped from DVD to memory stick anyway. Of my friends that have a PSP they've done the same: bought a larger memory stick and used one of the half dozen tools out there to convert their DVDs. In the end it's actually more convenient than UMD even if I wanted to watch a UMD movie because I can put whatever video content I wish on the stick.

    Blockbuster had UMD movies on sale not too long ago, but I just walked on by. I had them on all DVD anyway.

  12. Related news: 4GB Memory Stick Duo now available by MojoStan · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm surprised TFA didn't mention UMD's competition from high-capacity memory cards for playing movies. Note that the max capacity of UMD is 1.8GB and the PSP has a flash memory card slot for Sony's Memory Stick Pro Duo format. Movies can be played from these memory cards and several easy-to-use utilities exist for ripping DVDs and encoding into MPEG-4 at the PSP's 480x272 resolution.

    Movies on memory cards don't have DVD-like menus like UMD movies do. However, I'm sure many users like the memory card's rewritability, PC compatibility, and ability to use existing DVDs to make PSP movies.

    4GB Memory Stick Duo cards were released this month and Dell sells it for $136 (most sellers price it around $200). 2GB Memory Stick Duos have fallen to around $80-$90.

    Also, the PSP displays photos and plays MP3 and AAC. UMD is not dead because they distribute their games on it. Remember, the PSP actually plays games, too.

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  13. (-8 Million, Ignorant) by tm2b · · Score: 5, Informative
    making song files incompatible with any portable player other than an iPod.
    What in the blue bloody hell is wrong with people that they keep claiming this?

    ONCE AGAIN: AAC is the standard for MPEG4 audio, every bit as open as MP3 (both encumbered by licensed IP, less open than Ogg Vorbis). It's Apple's "Fair Play" DRM, wrapped around the AAC format, that's exclusive to the Apple iPods and the Motorola ROKR (excusably, people also like to forget that beast). Note that Fair Play is not a factor when you rip the songs yourself.

    AAC is supported by tons of players, including (just from a quick Google) the Sony Network Walkman and the Viliv P1. Hell, there's a press release from 2000 when Toshiba first announced theirs.

    I'm sure there are tons more, AAC support is integrated in a number of the chipsets available now.

    Jackass.
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