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Cranky Editorials About Videogames

GamePolitics has a roundup of some game-related weekend editorials. Some of them are awful cranky and not terribly well thought-out. From the Peoria Journal-Star: "Many of my college students... seem to be less familiar with books than earlier generations. In part, you can blame the influence of video games in pre-teens' lives. If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or Playstation, I think we know which one a kid will pick... In other words, good writing means good salaries. Think about that the next time you choose between taking your kid to the video store or the library..." Another piece rails against the Columbine videogame, while papers in Louisiana are duking it out over the recently passed videogame legislation.

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  1. books vs. video games by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or Playstation, I think we know which one a kid will pick"

    When I was a kid in the 70s they said the same thing about television. (Jesus, don't people remember that? God, I'm not THAT old!) My grandmother told me once that they said the same thing about radio when she was a kid. So what did they blame before radio? I'd imagine it was wanting to play outside instead of reading. Hint: many kids don't like reading all that much, especially ponderous books like Moby Dick

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  2. I can believe this... by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm talking about young people who don't know how to use a period. Or never learned that you need to capitalize "United States." Or have no idea about extreme basics like nouns and verbs, and why one of each must be in every sentence.

    I can believe this is a problem. (A coworker was recently ranting about someone who regularly sends her lengthy emails where the only vowels are the 'o's in 'lol'.) But IM, chatrooms and blogs seem like more likely culprits than games.

    1. Re:I can believe this... by shotfeel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And sadly, the people who say things like what you quoted will insist the kid must read "Moby Dick" and other classics, while simultandously denigrating the reading of science fiction, fantasy and graphic novels.

      I'd like to know when in the Professor's childhood, millions of kids stayed up until midnight to get their hands on a new book, or waited anxiously by the door for the delivery person to bring their finally un-embargoed book. Then maybe he should visit a local, mainstream bookstore when the final Harry Potter book is released.

      Just because kids don't read what he did or thinks they should, doesn't mean they are any more lacking in literacy.

  3. Call Me Ishmae*SZZZNNNNNKK* by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or Playstation, I think we know which one a kid will pick.

    If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or pick-up a game of baseball, I think we know which one a kid will pick.

    If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or going out on the lake for a day on a friend's boat, I think we know which one a kid will pick.

    If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or hanging out at the local Denny's, I think we know which one a kid will pick.

    If the choice is 'Moby Dick' or mowing the lawn with the blunt edge of a butter knife, I think we know which one a kid will pick.

    Seriously. If we're going to bemoan the fact that kids generally tend to prefer leisure activities to poring over the great classics of Western literature, we could at least pick something that most kids might actually enjoy reading, like Shakespeare (Serial regi-patri-fratricide? Poison-tipped swords? Mass slaughter? Hot chicks? Rawk!)

    But Moby Dick--well, what teen wouldn't be utterly enthralled by a several-hundred-page long account of the finer points of the early American whaler's life and amateur deck-pacing?

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    1. Re:Call Me Ishmae*SZZZNNNNNKK* by Greyfox · · Score: 1, Insightful
      If the choice is Moby Dick or getting kicked in the testicles repeatedly for about as long as it'd take to read the book, I know which one _I'd_ choose. Most of those "classics" authors were mindless pratts who thought they could be deep and who liked to hear themselves talk. And if I say the whale was a symbol of the author's father's penis, who the author always lived in the shadow of (Literally, the elder Melville had a huge penis that his son was always envious of, having got his from the tiny-wiener'd genes on his mother's side of the family) it's just as valid as any thesis an English professor ever wrote about the whale being God or Jesus or the looming spectre of death that you see when you abuse too much absinthe. Which most of those authors also happened to do. It's not Play Station that's killed good literature, people, it's the war on drugs!

      And good writing does not lead to good salaries, not for the vast majority of people who can do it. A degree in English or Journalism (Or philisophy, art, etc) is a one-way ticket to bankruptcy for most people. And it always has been -- there's a reason those authors abused the drug of the day throughout history. A few of them just happened to hit on a combination of magic creativity juice that worked for them.

      It is my opinion that Phil Luciano is a mindless pratt who likes to hear himself talk. The Playstation is a symbol of his father's penis, which he has always lived in the shadows of. So there...

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  4. Every generation has its culprit by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Today games, yesterday TV, before that radio, before that it was the "bad books". And I'm quite sure that what we call the "classics" today were the "bad books" of their generation.

    Yes, the language of our kids changes. For the better or worse, who're we to determine that? Looking back 200 years you'll see that the language was laboured, ponderous, loaded with terms and phrases that feel awkward to us today. Yet, if you spoke like we do today back then, you might have been called "simple" and "unrefined", because you use most likely fewer words to express what you want to say, and you do not try to create word constructs that make your listener doze away.

    Language is ever evolving. And while I'm not really fond of the "OMG d00dZ!!!1!!1111" we find in chatrooms more often than people able to create sensible English sentences (non-native speakers are exempted from the requirement), they don't represent the language spoken. They are a minority (even though one that we, as computer users and most likely also chatroom users, tend to meet fairly often).

    Don't worry. They won't write books, so our generation will not be judged by them by future generations.

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  5. Quick run through by RogueyWon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok, random thoughts on each of the articles referenced by TFA:

    The Columbine game: this is one of those times when, even as a fairly straightforward, no compromises, advocate of free-speech, I wish I didn't find myself on the same side as some of these nutcases. Yes, yes, it's their right to say it and yes, I'll defend it. I seriously wish I didn't have to, though. I feel the same way about Rockstar sometimes. Their games rock in terms of the core gameplay (even if they have started recycling of late), they've reinvented several genres several times and if they want to make a game in which you dig up and rape the corpses of the grandmothers of assorted members of congress, then it is their right to do so. But for god's sake, guys, could you not grow up a little? Would make all of our lives so much easier and not make me feel... well... soiled, whenever I have to defend video-games against the latest loud-mouthed office bore.

    On games resulting in poor literacy: this article's slightly better than the snippets in both the summary and TFA. I've worked (briefly) in a school and there's no denying that standards of literacy are hideous today. Is the growth of the games industry a factor? Possibly. There's certainly an extra level of distraction that has resulted from the easy availability of games. However, I think this is missing the point a bit. The primary responsibility for ensuring a child's literacy is split between parents and schools and there are too many cases where both of these fail. I strongly suspect that many of the teachers complaining about videog games are themselves part of the problem. If they would stop chasing after the latest politically correct, culturally sensitive educational paradigm and start actually teaching kids how to write - including incentivising failure and penalising failure - then they might find that school-leavers would suddenly be able to string two words together in print again.

    And the Louisiana thing: Oh for god's sake, have these people nothing better to do? They know the law is unconstitutional and will, after much time, effort and expense, be struck down. Is there not a case for prosecution here, on the grounds of misappropriation of public funds?

  6. Teachers introduce Austen too early by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if you can't get past that point, I'm not surprised you hate the classics- they all take a refined reader to understand and appreciate.

    The trouble is that curriculum designers expect high school students, whose brains' emotion centers are not yet fully developed, to already be "refined" as you define it. Being forced by the school system to pretend to appreciate college or grad school level themes while in high school is enough to turn a student off from reading fiction.

  7. You might want to remember that by Krakhan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Correlation != Causation