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Who Will Join Microsoft in the Portal Wars?

madman writes "In the light of the recent changes in the search war, like the Google/Dell partnership and eBay/Yahoo! alliance, Microsoft is facing a complicated question: Who are they going to ally with? Will they try to face the competition alone?"

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  1. "Who are they going to ally with?" by talkingpaperclip · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Who are they going to ally with?"

    The dark side, obviously.

    1. Re:"Who are they going to ally with?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Son.. er Appl.. oh, wait. That's redundant.

  2. One of 2 choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Either Microsoft will join forces with Hotmail, or else MSN will team up with Microsoft for battle.

  3. Microsoft should use the X-Box model by thammoud · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Grow organically. Most takovers and and partnerships amongst large companies fail to realize their initial potential. MS should stop trying to shoe horn everything into the failed MSN model. Create a small team of talented people, give them some serious money and freedom and let them create. Do not impose Windows or MSN on them. Let them build the hardware, the software and the website. Do what apple does but with a much larger budget. I can use an IPOD without a Mac or having to go to apple.com (.mac).

  4. The writer of this article... by Mikachu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    obviously didn't read this.

  5. Always play nice... by coop535 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... or nobody will want to play with you. You don't hear about google/yahoo/ebay throwing chairs and uttering corporate death threats!

    Seriously though, I'd kill to have Microsoft's problems though: having billions of cash on hand and shopping for that new toy.

    1. Re:Always play nice... by Znork · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Without a doubt. Yet, instead of paying out the money they dont know what to do with in dividends or doing stock buybacks, like so many others they try to pretend they're better than their shareholders at deciding what the shareholders money should be invested in.

      It's a classic, probably a psychological control issue for boards, they're have a compulsive need to expand until they collapse into unprofitability.

  6. The Spooks by zenetik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps Microsoft will join forces with AT&T and the NSA and turn its efforts toward data mining.

    1. Re:The Spooks by dhasenan · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's always the FBIMSNSAT&TSA. And what about the FBIMSNSAT&TSATF? Now we can get the FBIMSNSAT&TSATFBIMSNSAT&TSA if we want....

  7. Which side? by ItsIllak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about allying with someone who's also got something virtual to deliver? Obviously MS could easily just ally with another one of it's arms - for mob appeal they could buy up Flikr, MySpace or YouTube? That gives them their own content - hence a reason to come along, something new and interesting to search... And before you say it, yes there's a lot of dross in those sites, but there are also hidden gems...

    See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGuBx6Xj-PE

    1. Re:Which side? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seeing as how both Flickr and MySpace were semi-recently acquired by other huge companies, that leaves only YouTube. I guarantee that if MS bought YouTube, they'd have this brilliant idea and start charging people to put their content up there. If there's one thing that MS repeatedly shows that it doesn't understand, it's how other companies come out of nowhere and become successful at doing what they do.

    2. Re:Which side? by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, Rupert Murdoch recently bought MySpace, and he owns Fox News, so if they really wanna ally with the dark side (and LCD) he's right there in front of them.

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    3. Re:Which side? by elwin_windleaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Microsoft and Rupert Murdoch (MySpace.com)... I'm starting to see the wisdom in the earlier post about the dark side. Perhaps the forces of darkness will band together to fight?

    4. Re:Which side? by ImTheDarkcyde · · Score: 2, Interesting

      well if you got ot live.com one of the default things is fox sports. Fox was also mentioned during his keynote not too long ago. so i'd say they've already got a relationship going, and are just waiting to kick it up a notch.

  8. They are all running scared by IntelliAdmin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can tell that things are really up in the air when long time enemies start making alliances - your enemies enemy is your friend. I say it great to watch them spend billions and squirm around.

    Admin tools for Windows

  9. Domain Squatters by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously. Microsoft needs to join with domain squatters. Microsoft could totally dominate the domain squatter portal market by integrating their Live search engine into the domain squatters' Yahoo-like categorized site listings and offers to sell you the domain for $X,XXX.

  10. Core values. by geoff+lane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't it make sense for MS to pay more attention to its core products before it goes hunting? There is not a lot of point in catching a big beast when the log cabin is burning down.

  11. AOL! by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know I would definately BUY vista, if I got like a free trail for AOL. I have been hankering to try that out but cant find those CDs anywhere.

  12. Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimilate by mwfolsom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Folks:

    Anybody that partners with Microsoft is nuts -

    Who has ever done it and lived to tell the tale?

    M-

  13. Not trolling by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this is where Microsoft's prior behaviour comes back to haunt them. When Microsoft partners with anyone, it is (from their viewpoint) a short term marriage of convenience to be discarded the moment they think they can make a buck by shafting their "partner". If I had a valuable Internet property, the last thing I would consider is letting Microsoft get its fingers on it. You may think you have good lawyers, but Microsoft has played the game too long.

  14. Been there, done that by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't anyonre remember the last portal wars?

    They were won by a company that didn't provide a portal, just a simple search service that let people find what they want.

    People don't want a "portal"... they just want to find what they are looking for quickly.

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  15. Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil by coop535 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For starters (and off the top of my head): Intel, IBM, Apple, Sun, Nvidia, Dell. I would include SCO, but they're touch and go.

  16. Missing the point... by kkiller · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I remember portals in the late 90s, and the fuss and bother firms made over what was meant to be the cash-cow of the future. Much was made about Netscape's Netcenter site, which is still operating, tho' I suspect with far fewer visitors.

    What I want to know is... who uses these damn sites? If portals are so important as a source of revenue, then why did Google - who's original site was stripped of the over-complicated design which marked sites like Yahoo!, MSN and excite - become a dominant market player? Could it be - shock - users don't want to see everything piled into one place and are intelligent enough to get services from different websites? eBay for auctions, BBC/CNN/whoever for news, Google for their search. I certainly never liked those kind of sites and I never heard anyone else who did - except of course, the corporations which ran them.

  17. Am I the only one... by DarthChris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...who doesn't actually care?

    As long as there is good competition, and I can get decent products/services because of it, I honestly don't care. I am sure plenty of you will disagree, but that's just my take on it.

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  18. the Xbox model... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Xbox model was not to give a small team the freedom to create.

    The hardware design was done by two guys who don't even work for MS, they work for a joint design and manufacturing company. The software was done in-house, but by a larger team. The Xbox OS is a derivative of (Windows) NT. Additionally, they spent untold dollars buying Bungie, RARE, Oddworld Inhabitants and other companies.

    In other words, they largely followed the model you say sucks. They spent a lot of money on acquisitions, only one of which worked out (and even the Bungie Crew is all gone to Wideload and WildTangent now except for Jason Jones). And the kicker, they've so far lost a truckload of money.

    It doesn't sound like the right model to me. If the Xbox team ever turns a profit it'll be because Sony are such boneheads, not because of the excellence of the Xbox model.

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    1. Re:the Xbox model... by Trelane · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And the kicker, they've so far lost a truckload of money.
      If "they" is the XBox division, yes. However, Microsoft itself continues to make money hand over fist via the Two Towers: Windows and Office, to the tune of several billion profit per quarter (3-4 bn USD last I saw). Thus, they can afford to lose many truckloads of money on the XBox, so long as their Two Towers stand.

      This subsidized loss in the XBox division is very much worth it, since the XBox is one (fairly important) arm of their overall strategy for increasing revenue via media services. XBox is not merely a gaming console, but is being positioned as a gateway to media services on Windows/Microsoft software. With Microsoft DRM acceptance, they are unusually well-positioned for providing end-to-end near-future media services (e.g. the increasing acceptance of Microsoft's IPTV platform + Windows MCE + Windows + XBox + PocketPC/Smartphone).

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    2. Re:the Xbox model... by bhunachchicken · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "Additionally, they spent untold dollars buying Bungie, RARE, Oddworld Inhabitants and other companies."

      Correct me if I'm wrong here but Oddworld Inhabitants were never bought by Microsoft. Munch's Oddysee was moved from a PS2 exclusive to an Xbox exclusive and Stranger's Wrath was cancelled for the PS2. Infact I do believe it was Oddworld's lack of support of Sony's machine that has caused the company to exit the gaming industry...

  19. Blame the editor by rastakid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You should blame the editor instead: the submitter submitted his story probably before the article you refer to was posted and it's always to the editors to fix this kind of things.

    I hate it the Slashdot editors don't even care to read their own frontpage!

  20. Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Funny
    Who has ever done it and lived to tell the tale?

    Satan?

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