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A DNA Database For All U.S. Workers?

fragmer writes "New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg suggested a plan on Wednesday that would establish a DNA or fingerprint database to track and verify all legal U.S. workers. The mayor said DNA and fingerprint technology could be used to create a worker ID database that will 'uniquely identify the person' applying for a job, ensuring that cards are not illegally transferred or forged. Bloomberg compared his proposed federal identification database to the Social Security card, insisting that such a system would not violate citizens' privacy and was not a civil liberties issue."

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  1. Beyond the Civil Liberties issues ... by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does this moron know how much it would COST to do that? We're talking a DNA sample from every working age adult (15 to ...?).

    Just WHAT is this supposed to give us? Are employers who currently hire illegal aliens suddenly going to pay for DNA/fingerprinting of their employees to find out if they're legal?

    Or is this another expense for the immigration department / police departments? Will they have to check the DNA of everyone they arrest on immigration issues?

    That guy is an idiot.

    Even without the Civil Liberty issues, this idea would be too expensive to implement and yield NOTHING.

    It looks like "immigration" is this year's "child porn". All you politicians need to get on "immigration" today!

  2. Is anyone else getting sick of this pattern? by rob_squared · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Government notices problem.
    2. Media takes problem, makes it a big news story.
    3. Government takes problem and introduces legislation that does more to restrict ordinary law-abiding citizens.
    4. Profit (More Power)

    How many years was illegal immigration going on and companies using them (persumably this DNA database will be designed to curtail that)? And when exactly did the government/news decide to make it a central issue? The governemnt must have seen what a great tool fear, distrust, and anger were to gain power for themselves.

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  3. Re:Privacy Violation by everett · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Simple solution, copyright your DNA sequence and then sue anyone that obtains it illegally for copyright infringement, since this is America you will win.

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  4. Re:Social Security? by jcr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only that, the census bureau routinely promises that census data will not be used for any illegal purpose, and they even lie about the fact that it was used in the 1940s to round up american citizens of Japanese ancestry to ship them to concentration camps.

    -jcr

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  5. Re:And the Star of David... by ultranova · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And I wish that people would remember that Government works for us and we give them their power.

    No. The monopoly on violence the government holds gives it power. Specifically, the backing of armed forces - US Army - is what gives the US Government its power. You have power over it only when you have a real chance of overthrowing it; at that point the government might listen out of self-preservation. Democracy was supposed to ensure that the public always has this power, and can use it in a bloodless manner, but it's working less and less well.

    I don't know if there's a solution. As soon as humans band together into large enough groups you need government to keep them from killing each other; but since that government needs to hold near-total monopoly on violence to accomplish this and is made from human beings it will inevitably end up abusing its power. Any attempt to stop this process only slows it down; and even if you stop the actual government from growing out of control, it simply provides a power vacuum for aristocracy or corporations / robber parons to do it instead.

    Maybe it's the nature of human race that we must have revolutions every few generations to keep things working.

    Too many folks act like they're subjects of the Government.

    The correct term, I believe, is consumer.

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  6. Re:Oh Orwell by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, power lies with guns (as it always has), whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive that it is the Duty of the People to alter or abolish it.

  7. And what else will employers be screening for? by Dogun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see this as a women's rights issue, in addition to the obvious 'they looked at our DNA!' complaint.

    No employer is ever going to just take a single hair or a few skin scrapings. They're going to want blood, and more than just a finger prick. If they do that before getting back to you with a decision, they could be screening for, say... PREGNANCY. SSRI's. Who knows what.

    Even if the system were perfect it would give employers a blank check to perform unwelcome and illegal tests on job applicants. And that just ain't cool.

  8. Re:Hey look, a gun nut. by flobberchops · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stupid Yank. That is obvioulsy why the IRA owned South Armagh and even the police had to be flown in and could not use the roads for safety, even garbage had to be flown out by helicopter from the bases (until the SAS came in and played them at their own game with their underhanded tactics). Get your facts right. Terrorists did a HUGE amount of damage to the UK government and over a LONG period of time. The UK Government had no chance against the populance that dispised them so much.