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How the PS3 Hit $600

Joystiq has up an interesting article today, gathering together information from a couple of places to discuss why the PlayStation 3 is so expensive. From the article: "Kutaragi was demoted after being passed over for the role of CEO and, when former Sony Pictures head Howard Stringer assumed the position, the relationship between the content and technology divisions of Sony became even more intimate. Stringer "quickly dubbed the PlayStation 3 as one of the company's 'champion' products." Kutaragi's desire to stratify the console market with Cell technology in effect wed Sony to the unpalatable prospect of charging an unprecedented price. Coupled with Sony's desire to not only push their own content on HD discs, but to control that medium with their proprietary Blu-ray format, the final price was escalated by two very advanced (and very expensive) pieces of Sony technology."

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  1. Who cares? by marx · · Score: 5, Informative
    A new PS2-game costs $75 in Sweden. Who cares if the actual console costs $400, $500 or $600? Why isn't the gaming community "reeling" from the high cost of games? The games also are usually not fun to play for more than an hour or so.

    The game (and music and movie) industry is bizarre, deal with it. If the PS3 is fun and gets a sexy reputation, then people will buy it. If people think it's lame, then they won't buy it. I don't think the price has very much influence.

    For me, the fact that they added "motion sensing" at the last minute sounds much more worrying for Sony. It sounds like they realized the Wii was going to beat the PS3 and they had to copy it. I think I will get a Wii, not because it's cheap, but because the controller has great potential for fun gameplay.

  2. Re:it is proprietary by badasscat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, but you don't know what "proprietary" means. Proprietary means that the format is owned by someone, which it is. The fact that a bunch of big companies got together and formed an association doesn't change that fact.

    proprietary
    adj.

          1. Of, relating to, or suggestive of a proprietor or to proprietors as a group: had proprietary rights; behaved with a proprietary air in his friend's house.
          2. Exclusively owned; private: a proprietary hospital.
          3. Owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent: a proprietary drug.

    It all depends on which definition you're using. You are assuming definition #3. But it seems clear from the context that the article itself (written by Joystiq?) is using definition #2.

    The point is Blu-Ray is no more proprietary than HD-DVD or even regular DVD. The fact that Joystiq used the word at all is implying that Blu-Ray is somehow proprietary in a way that those other formats are not. Otherwise, there'd be no reason to describe it in that manner - I mean the Xbox 360 is using the "proprietary" DVD format and it only costs $300-$400. So this is not a differential between these two systems, and implying that it is is at best biased reporting and at worst just plain incorrect.

    It is almost definitely true that the BD drive is one reason why the PS3 is so expensive, but that's just because it's new technology. It's got nothing to do with it being proprietary or not.

  3. Re:Man, bullshit. by KingArthur10 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's illegal now to play DVDs on a linux PC in the United States (except with distributions that pay licensing fees) because doing so requires a CSS crack. Blue Ray will be no different. Linux users will have to violate the US DMCA by using encryption cracking techniques to view the Blue Ray videos as they have always done. THIS, my dear sir, is the danger of proprietary software :-)

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  4. Re:Pasting for the PS3 because it invents not copi by Keeper · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can you think of a SINGLE technical reason to back HD-DVD over Blu-ray if you were Microsoft making that decision, BEYOND considering Sony to be competition?

    I can think of a few off the top of my head:

    1) HD-DVD drives are less expensive
    2) HD-DVD has a mandatory managed copy requirement
    3) HD-DVD doesn't have region coding
    4) HD-DVD discs are less expensive to produce
    5) HD-DVD discs can be produced with DVD9 content on one side and HD-DVD content on the other (ie: good upgrade story)
    6) HD-DVD discs are more fault tolerant than blu-ray
    7) Hi-def Movies don't need more than 25 of storage space with modern codecs

  5. Re:Man, bullshit. by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    because doing so requires a CSS crack.

    It requires a CSS license, but nobody wants to pay for one or release a binary-only player (which would go against the community's philosophies).

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  6. Sony is incompetent at technology by The_Real_Quaid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another thing this article left out - the ballooning price of PS3 is also the result of ballooned R&D costs due to design incompetence and failure.

    The original PS3 design called for 3 Cell processors and no GPU. Each Cell CPU was to have 1 logic unit and 8 SPE's, and graphics would be done in software mode. Sony ended up with egg on their face and had to run to nVidia to bail them out.

    Originally nVidia was called in for "consultation" purposes, and both parties denied a GPU was in the works. But inevitably, Sony's lakluster design forced them to purchase nVidia's PC GPU to overcome the Cells graphical inability. Turning to nVidia costed Sony much more than they planned to spend, and buying the PC GPU's costed them even more.

    To add insult to injury, low yields forced Sony to cut the SPE's down to 7 operational SPE's per Cell, and costs forced them to cut 2 Cell processors away completely. Now we have an over-engineered, overpriced, and underwheliming architecture. Don't let Soy's infalted numbers fool you, the X360 was brilliantly designed, PS3 was botched, so for all the hype and price, you pay 2x the money for the same quality system, and Sony loses assloads of money. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone (except nVidia, who will walk away from this with a really fat bank account.)