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ThePirateBay.org Raided and Shut Down
An anonymous reader writes "ThePirateBay.org, a longtime fixture of the BitTorrent community, is currently under investigation. Slyck.com is reporting their servers have been seized by the Swedish police." What's really interesting about them is the strange political power that they held in their homeland. There was much discussion even of a political party. This will be interesting to watch unfold.
Looks like we all got had... Server maintenance.
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I love these guys.
"That, or they're after the logs so that they can do it the American Way (tm) and start suing blind 90 year olds and quadriplegics."
Yes, because that's what the RIAA does here; targets blind 90 year olds and quadriplegics. Really, the hyperbolic cliches are really quite tiresome.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
"Please try to keep your analogies vaguely relevant. We're talking about copyright infringement here, not theft, so let's at least keep it IP-related. Examples of relevant crimes would be Americans infringing Swedish copyrights (downloading ABBA tracks or whatever), or violating other Swedish IP laws (maybe making fake IKEA furniture, or using industrial espionage to get illegal access to Saab trade secrets)."
See, this is the classic Slashdot response and it's totally faulty.
How do you think sites like Pirate Bay get their material? I'll give you a few examples:
1.) A guy walks into a CD store, pockets the CD and walks out. The CD store eats the loss.
2.) A worker at a major motion picture steals prerelease cuts and takes them home. Not along has he stolen physical goods, but he and his coworkers may lose their jobs in the process.
3.) A worker at a game store opens a game and makes a copy before it's released. The consumer buys the now scratched-up version, returns it, and the game company eats the loss.
In all cases, physical theft DOES occur at some point. In nearly all cases, people get fired -- often having nothing to do with the theft. Not to mention all the copies the companies could have sold if hundreds of thousands of teenagers didn't download it for free.
The common Slashdot mistake is to isolate copyright infringement as its own event. It isn't. It's part of a circle of events that involve physical loss, loss of jobs, etc.
unbelievably moronic post. kudos.
Frammin' on the jim-jam, frippin' at the krotz!
Side note, what do the Master Bakers' Association of America {or whatever they call themselves} think about the popularity of home bread making machines? Should a levy be imposed on every kilo of Strong Flour to pay for the business they are losing?
Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
"The pirate bay people are in Sweden, and are following Swedish law. If they were operating in the US, that would be different."
But you can't just steal products in one country, move them to another country and no longer consider it theft. Just because you moved somewhere else doesn't erase the fact that you've stolen the good.
That's effectively what the Swedes are trying to do. "If you come here, no laws apply." Yes, they do. There's international constructs and even laws for a reason. It's considered very undiplomatic to go against what nearly every other country agrees on. Theft is theft.
"Let's start rounding up everyone hosting, posting, using, creating content for anti-communist sites and porn-sites and start shipping them to China and Iran to take their due punishment! Are you ok with that?"
Yup.
Does Swedish law permit people to break US law? I'm going to go murder people and run to Sweden, then.
Hi there, Im a no talent loser with no singing voice and a paper bag I took a dump in. I have less skills on an instrument than a retarded monkey with a hernia(*). I would like your help with:
- someone to write me a song because I cant write my own
- someone to play instruments for me because I cant play my own
- digitally pitch shifting my voice so that it sounds like I am singing on key
- digitally enhancing my voice so that it doesnt make your ears bleed and your head explode from the pain
- enhancing my voice some more so its less painfull than a barbed wire necklace
- even more enhancing so that some people (in the loosest definition of the word) might (and thats a very weak might) enjoy it
- dressing me up and enhancing my image to the point where young teenagers will be conned into thinking I'm cool
- promoting me all over the place to overcome my distinct lack of good qualities, beyond my ability to do what im told and possible visual attractiveness
- promoting me via illegal payola so that I can get sales which in all fairness should be going to someone with some actual talent, but they werent willing to bend over for you quite so far
- giving me 5 cents in the dollar or less from sales of my "music" (my fingers threw up a little just typing that word)
- suiing little girls and grandmas without pc's for even living in the same world as people who might want to sample my music before buying it (understandable really) or (heaven forbid, what is wrong with them?) listen to it illegally. (or those who just dont think that giving large evil corporations who ruin the music industry (and this from a professional musician) all my money so they can maybe pass on a few cents to the artist while ruining more peoples lives is a good idea, when I can instead see them live when they tour my city or somewhere nearby, and then they'll get a decent proportion of my money, assuming they didnt get more buttfucked than usual and dont even own the rights to perform their own music or some other such riaa bull#*&^)
- lobbying governments and bribing politicians (im sorry but what the f&%# else do you call it? "campaign contributions"? Its bribes, plain and simple) to bring in anti-constitutional laws and perform illegal raids to protect our flawed business models
I could go on, but the point is, I cant even listen to the rubbish on most popular radio stations. so called singers who cant sing on pitch, and use digital enhancement to "sing", "musicians" who wouldnt know music if it bit them on the ass. Meanwhile the real artists with talent and some morals/brains I see all around struggling to get noticed without selling out (or being played on non clearchannel stations). My main option for legal music online is a format that wont play on many players and is of lower quality than (to my trained ears, although I admit many people may not notice the difference) already low quality CD's, yet costs a dollar a song? and of that, the artist gets how much again? (why dont you look it up, and do some actual research to realise the true situation). Or I can choose the russian site, with decent quality and price options, but of dubious legality but morally no better than just getting them off bittorrent (actually, depending on where you believe the money is actually going, possibly a lot worse)
lets look at a quote from your example and go a little deeper:
"I don't want to spend any out-of-pocket money on this, since, like most struggling musicians, I don't have any."
now ask yourself why that is? In a world where people with no musical talent (cant hold a note, cant write a song, cant play an instrument better than a begginer) are all over the charts, making tons of money? Could it be that by only promoting those "stars" that will bend over and touch their toes for them, and using illegal payola to make sure talented people who dont sell out wont get much airplay, and then taking 95% + of the sales money, they ar
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