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ThePirateBay Will Rise Again?

muffen writes "IDG.se has an interesting article up giving more details about the raid on PirateBay, and a little history of the organization. The news organ reports that nearly 200 servers were taken, and many of them had nothing to do with the torrent-serving group. After yesterday's raid, the site is back up with a single page explaining the situation. Brokep, one of the people behind PirateBay, claims that the site will be up and running within a couple of days. He also says that there is no legal basis for the raid against them and that he is certain that the case will not go to trial." From the site: "The necessity for securing technical evidence for the existence of a web-service which is fully official, the legality of which has been under public debate for years and whose principals are public persons giving regular press interviews, could not be explained. Asked for other reasoning behind the choice to take down a site, without knowing whether it is illegal or not, the officers explained that this is normal."

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  1. As a record store owner, I hope not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    My business faces ruin. CD sales have dropped through the floor. People aren't buying half as many CDs as they did just a year ago. Revenue is down and costs are up. My store has survived for years, but I now face the prospect of bankruptcy. Every day I ask myself why this is happening.

    I bought the store about 12 years ago. It was one of those boutique record stores that sell obscure, independent releases that no-one listens to, not even the people that buy them. I decided that to grow the business I'd need to aim for a different demographic, the family market. My store specialised in family music - stuff that the whole family could listen to. I don't sell sick stuff like Marilyn Manson or cop-killer rap, and I'm proud to have one of the most extensive Christian rock sections that I know of.

    The business strategy worked. People flocked to my store, knowing that they (and their children) could safely purchase records without profanity or violent lyrics. Over the years I expanded the business and took on more clean-cut and friendly employees. It took hard work and long hours but I had achieved my dream - owning a profitable business that I had built with my own hands, from the ground up. But now, this dream is turning into a nightmare.

    Every day, fewer and fewer customers enter my store to buy fewer and fewer CDs. Why is no one buying CDs? Are people not interested in music? Do people prefer to watch TV, see films, read books? I don't know. But there is one, inescapable truth - Internet piracy is mostly to blame. The statistics speak for themselves - one in three discs world wide is a pirate. On The Internet, you can find and download hundreds of dollars worth of music in just minutes. It has the potential to destroy the music industry, from artists, to record companies to stores like my own. Before you point to the supposed "economic downturn", I'll note that the book store just across from my store is doing great business. Unlike CDs, it's harder to copy books over The Internet.

    A week ago, an unpleasant experience with pirates gave me an idea. In my store, I overheard a teenage patron talking to his friend.

    "Dude, I'm going to put this CD on the Internet right away."

    "Yeah, dude, that's really lete [sic], you'll get lots of respect."

    I was fuming. So they were out to destroy the record industry from right under my nose? Fat chance. When they came to the counter to make their purchase, I grabbed the little shit by his shirt. "So...you're going to copy this to your friends over The Internet, punk?" I asked him in my best Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry voice.

    "Uh y-yeh." He mumbled, shocked.

    "That's it. What's your name? You're blacklisted. Now take yourself and your little bitch friend out of my store - and don't come back." I barked. Cravenly, they complied and scampered off.

    So that's my idea - a national blacklist of pirates. If somebody cannot obey the basic rules of society, then they should be excluded from society. If pirates want to steal from the music industry, then the music industry should exclude them. It's that simple. One strike, and you're out - no reputable record store will allow you to buy another CD. If the pirates can't buy the CDS to begin with, then they won't be able to copy them over The Internet, will they? It's no different to doctors blacklisting drug dealers from buying prescription medicine.

    I have just written a letter to the RIAA outlining my proposal. Suing pirates one by one isn't going far enough. Not to mention pirates use the fact that they're being sued to unfairly portray themselves as victims. A national register of pirates would make the problem far easier to deal with. People would be encouraged to give the names of suspected pirates to a hotline, similar to TIPS. Once we know the size of the problem, the police and other law enforcement agencies will be forced to take piracy seriously. They have fought the War on Drugs with skill, so why not the War on Piracy?

    This evening, my daughters asked me. "Wh

  2. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Wait, so I'm supposed to feel bad for you because...

    1) Generally most popular music sucks these days. The last CD I bought was back in my high school days in the mid-90's while I was DJing for school rallies.

    2) Many people have iPods and other MP3 players so they get their music from iTMS.

    3) You gambled and have a business model that hasn't adapted to the internet era.

    All three reasons don't give you the right have a gauranteed revenue stream. Either diversify or quit complaining.

  3. STANDBY by tomstdenis · · Score: -1, Troll

    Attempting to care....FAILED. :-)

    Some random website full of 1337 computer wizards who are probably breaking the law or just being annoying gets taken down. Big deal.

    How many kids went hungry last night because their parents wouldn't feed them?

    How many people died yesterday as a result of war?

    etc, etc, etc.

    Chances are they are doing something worthy of getting "picked on" and frankly I don't see why anyone should care in the slighest.

    Tom

    --
    Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  4. Damn Wiggles by Medievalist · · Score: 0, Troll


    I've had enough of their paedophilic shenanigans... Captain Feathersword? Please!!!

    Keep Pirate Bay shut down and put the Wiggles in prison where they belong!

    Er, what? Oh... I see. Never mind!

  5. Re:MPAA by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 0, Troll

    Unauthorized redistribution of copyrighted works is in violation of the Berne Convention, which Sweden is a signatory, so it IS illegal for Pirate Bay to do what they are doing. It doesn't matter what some polls say, unless they vote get Sweden to back out of that treaty, it is against the law.