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Retro Gaming With Castlevania and Friends

Jeremy Parish, over at 1up, has single-handedly taken up the banner of the classic game. Today, he talks about Castlevania and other classic vampire killers. From the article: "There was recently a rather lively debate on my personal blog about how silly the whole franchise has become, considering it started off as little more than a loving tribute to classic monster movies and has somehow mutated into a rather straight-faced effort by silver-haired pretty boys to battle vampires. It's like a horrible Ann Rice/DeviantArt mash-up, based around a not-quite-menacing villain whose job is basically to serve as a MacGuffin for exploring twisty castle corridors and has occasionally been depicted as a dude in a badly-designed tuxedo."

31 comments

  1. ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got as far as "There was recently a rather lively debate on my personal blog ..." and then gave myself a swirly.

    1. Re:ugh by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

      Maybe I should post a story on my website about the little ruckus I caused on Slashdot a few days ago (19 posts! NEW RECORD!) and submit that as a story on Slashdot. Hmmm...

  2. frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    frist psot

    1. Re:frist post by 4D6963 · · Score: 3, Funny
      frist psot

      You got perharps the most pathetic First Post of the Month, not only you got one typo in the title and two in the two-word post, but the actual first post was posted 6 minutes earlier.

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    2. Re:frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no typo! That's Senator Bill Frist!

    3. Re:frist post by Mursk · · Score: 1
      Wow, this is the first time I've gotten to say this...

      Welcome to /.

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  3. Bah by HunterZ · · Score: 1

    He only mentions a random smattering of Castlevania games, and there doesn't seem to be any point to his discussion (except maybe to mention Haunted Castle for the PS2, which he implies isn't very good). The biggest travesty is no mention of Symphony of the Night.

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    1. Re:Bah by ersgameboy · · Score: 1

      It's not a random smattering - it's games in the Castlevania series that tell the same story (Simon's first battle w/ Dracula)

    2. Re:Bah by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't really pay attention to the story. I have the DS and GBA episodes of Castlevania and mostly fly through the dialogue, only stopping if my next step appears to be outlined.

      I dunno, I'm not very interested in the plot which already is pretty derivitive and bland. All I want from the series is good old side scrolling action.

  4. Castlevania memories by MilenCent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've played a good bit of these games, or at least the ones that came out in the US....

    My favorite, even more than the modern Metroidvanias, is still the first game. It's just such an elegant combination of control and reflexes. The thing about the game to realize is that your character is purposely limited (you can't control how high you jump, you can't change direction in mid-air, can't jump very high, can't walk fast and climb stairs even slower) but has a powerful main weapon. None of this two-pixel-long sword crap, your whip extends like four blocks ahead of you! And once powered up, which wasn't hard at all usually, it could take out most non-boss foes in one hit.

    On the other hand, your enemies were a lot more manueverable than you, and of course it turns out that it was not Dracula who was the bane of Simon's existence but gaping pits. When a friend told me that "Dracula X" for the SNES's version of Dracula was fought over a giant hole and was made much harder as a result, I realized it: gravity is classic Castlevania's secret ultimate boss! "So, we meet again, player! I see you've met my lackey Dracula... a charming fellow, and his fangs are quite deadly, but he is as nothing next to my awesome power! Now you must fight us both at once!" (Bottomless Pit runs out and just looms underneath the fight.) "Take that!"

    Hm. Bottomless Pit. Something makes me think a lot of people are going to use that as a character nickname for the new Smash Bros....

    1. Re:Castlevania memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Hm. Bottomless Pit. Something makes me think a lot of people are going to use that as a character nickname for the new Smash Bros....

      I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with the character's choice of attire. If so, you have already ruined the image of the game for me in advance. Thanks.

    2. Re:Castlevania memories by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 0

      The new hidden character for Smash Bros. should be Goatse! What a great special attack!

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  5. silly or not... by kirt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If we're talking about Castlevania specifically, and not the knock-offs, then the series has still produced generally great games. there are a few notable exceptions (aka, any Castlevania game that occurs in a full 3-D environment), but the 2-D games on Game Boy/GBA/DS are downright awesome, and while a little short on length, excellent successors to what i still consider to be the best 2-D side-scrolling game ever made, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (for PS1). just like i didn't play the original Castlevania purely for the story, i still don't play any of the games since then for it either. getting upset over the color of the main characters hair, or the fact that many of them haven't been Belmont family members is just ridiculous, because the underlying games are still engaging and fun. and, isn't that the point?

    1. Re:silly or not... by mikeisme77 · · Score: 1

      Just to clarify... you aren't implying that Castlevania: Symphony of the Night was the first Castlevania game, are you? Because the way that's worded it seems to imply that, but I just want to make sure I'm the one misreading it. If you think it's the first one, then maybe you should get an emulator and play the original Castlevania (which I think was for the NES, but it's been awhile since I've played the original).

  6. Castlevania 1 was fun for its time by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    I have the #1 entry on MARP, With one life I make it to Dracula, kill him, but his 2nd form kills me.

    1. Re:Castlevania 1 was fun for its time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like you're #2 now, as of April.

  7. Even the absurd entries have good gameplay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One shouldn't look back to the early NES games as the only worthwhile members of the franchaise. As far as I'm concerned, and I'm sure many here will agree, the best game was Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. It suffered from risible voice action, and some of the sound-effects were corny, but even with a suave pretty-boy as protagonist, it still possessed some bad-ass gameplay. For those who went without strategy guides, the fact that the easy ending obscured the entire second half of the game came as a shocking revelation when stumbled upon.

    1. Re:Even the absurd entries have good gameplay by Zareste · · Score: 1

      Yes indeed. In fact a lot of NES games are idealized as people say "games aren't what they used to be". Clearly, they haven't gone back and tried playing those games now that their standards are higher. I recently downloaded a SNES emulator and played Castlevania on it, and despite how much I loved it back when it came out, it annoyed the Hell out of me now. Stiff controls, typical concepts After playing enough games - no matter how famous they were a decade ago - I realized they were all the same system of gameplay: Hit things and die, jump around, solve a puzzle, hit things and die. There was nothing to them. Today, ordinary kids have made superior games using nothing more than Flash.

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    2. Re:Even the absurd entries have good gameplay by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      i played through Zelda II last week. it still owns

      so does Chip 'n Dale and SMB3

      will probably go back to castlevania fairly soon now.

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    3. Re:Even the absurd entries have good gameplay by grumbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ### Clearly, they haven't gone back and tried playing those games now that their standards are higher.

      I have gone back to many games and even visited plenty of new games of the old times which I have missed back then and most of them are still extremly amazing, sure, graphics might no longer be top notch, but gameplay is still pretty much wonderfull. The only real issue I have with games of the past is that their interface can suffer from some larger usability issues, this are mostly no big deal when you get used to them, but they can hinder getting into a game (having to press 'Select' instead of up/down to move between savegames in Zelda, having to do a lot of more clicking to get something done in Warcraft or Dune then in todays RTS, etc).

      ### Hit things and die, jump around, solve a puzzle, hit things and die.

      That sounds just like todays games, only that todays games often interrupt the action with more or less useless cutscenes and other annoyancies, while old games focus on the important part. And speaking about story, most old adventure games still beat the shit out of todays games in terms of story.

      ### Today, ordinary kids have made superior games using nothing more than Flash.

      Please show me a few flash games that come even close to the greatness of a SuperMarioBros or Metroid, sure there are plenty of flash games around, but most of them suck in terms of gameplay quite a lot and aren't really good for anything more then a few minutes of distraction.

  8. Woot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Frist Psot!

  9. I must now share the First Commandment by arakon · · Score: 1

    Thou shalt not "knock" thy 2-D Castlevania, or thine shal be "whipped" most umercifully.

    Say whatever you want about the 3-D crap.

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    1. Re:I must now share the First Commandment by mikeisme77 · · Score: 1

      This is probably blasphemy, but I thought the N64 Castlevania (3-D) was alright... Not nearly as good as the 2D ones, but not all that bad either...

    2. Re:I must now share the First Commandment by arakon · · Score: 1

      No that falls under "say whatever you like".

      Blasphemy would be saying you thought it was better than C:SOTN. Then you would be hunted down, skinned alive, bathed in vinegar, then honey and fed to voracious army ants.

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  10. Whither Game Boy? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    I never got into the series' NES incarnations, but for me "Castlevania Adventure" for the original GB was a killer app that drained many charges from that fist-sized belt-clip rechargeable attachment. Jumping was a bitch to get the hang of, though I gather that's pretty much a Castlevania thing.. apart from that, it was classic.

  11. Because I'm different by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    ...my favorite is still Castlevania II - Simon's Quest. For it's time it was the perfect blend of Action/RPG. A huge world to explore, items to find, towns to wander through, and lots and lots of secret passages -- like Metroid, set in Transylvania.

    After that, just one castle was never enough.

    1. Re:Because I'm different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a kid I figured out the whip-jump trick (bug?) to jump up three block-heights to get past that barrier before the swamps (towards the east) instead of using the whirlwind teleport thing, or whatever it was. I have no idea why I thought mashing controller buttons with just the right timing would actually work.

      I would love it if Konami made a Castlevania with the CV2 and Symphony of the Night styles combined.

    2. Re:Because I'm different by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Well said. I guess I'm just odd enough to agree with you. SOTN wins out on length, but you just can't beat the gameplay (and the music) of SQ.

      I even use "Horrible Night" as my cell phone alarm to tell me when it's time to go to work (11:30pm) ;)

  12. megaman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $TUPid C4$TLEVaNi4 n00B5! MeG4m4N I$ +H3 9r34TE5T sId3 5cR0lL3R 3VER!

  13. The NES and Castlevania 1 was a lesson in morality by NRAdude · · Score: 0

    I put the NES and controllers high-up on a shelf, and left a note saying;

    "Anyone wanting to play with this NES and its controllers may do so whenever they like, but will be impaled if they try to steal it."

    They just played and didn't think anything of it. Instead of taking the NES Castlevania cartridge without permission, someone did took the golden Zelda-1 NES cartridge. When it was returned, it had been jarred in such a way to cause a peice of plastic to unfix inside the cartridge and rattle. I have still not caught-up with them, given they moved to another town before I could impale them.

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  14. And the clues were just oh so helpful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love some of the messages that the villigers and other status messages is just so classic. Here are a few: (Posting in caps to preserve the sense of the game)

    WHAT A HORRIBLE NIGHT TO HAVE A CURSE
    Yea, like those horrible nights that you don't have a curse are any better.

    YOU NOW PROSSESS DRACULA'S RIB
    Clearly a typo... but which word? Possess, or possibly Process.

    GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER
    So, is the bag in the graveyard and I should crouch to find it, or do I have to get it from a mythical "graveyard duck"?

    HIT YOUR HEAD ON DEBORAH CLIFF TO MAKE A HOLE
    Um, a hole in the cliff or your head?