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Canadian Domain Registry Pulls Plug on Free Speech
An anonymous reader writes "The staff of a Canadian political candidate bragged today that he had managed to shut down a website critical of his involvement in a fundraising scandal, by having the country's registrar of domains pull the DNS records for the site. Criticism from bloggers and free speech advocates has been negative, and is coming from across the political spectrum."
Appears scum are easier to frame than honest, upstanding people. Thanks for playing, but hope you and your filth go down in flames, spinning or otherwise.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Canadians visiting American sites getting angry at censored Canadian content. Its not like we wanted to see it anyway - but I s'pose its about the principal! Or was that principle?
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how he was able to accomplish this.
However, the article does imply that noone is willing to admit to setting up the site.
Maybe the site's operator didn't provide accurate information when registering it. If that is the grounds for deregistering it, then it's not quite the free speech issue it's made out to be.
"The staff of a Canadian political candidate bragged today that he had managed to shut down a website critical of his involvement in a fundraising scandal.."
Shouldn't that read, "The former staff..."
I guess in Canada criticism can sometimes be positive, eh?
Michael Geist's page (linked in the summary) contains this link to a mirror of the site that caused the furor: http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/p
from one of the blogs:
.ca domain name with anonymous details, the domain name can be removed under the CIRA's rules. However, one first needs to point it out (as Joe Volpe's campaign did).
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UPDATE (supplemtary info): There's more information to the story. The deletion of the domain name was in full compliance of rules of the CIRA (just because it's a rule, doesn't make it right). Supposedly, if one registers a
This doesn't necessarily make it right, however. .
Whatever. Everyone assumed that it was a huge abuse of power, when in reality it was just someone using a tactic that anyone can use. Complaining that someone isn't following the rules, and following an established procedure to remedy the situation.
As usual, people get all up in arms, bloggers go nuts, emails and phone calls are made... and then we find out nothing really wrong was done.
The big public relations screw up was bragging about it on a mailing list. But otherwise, he didn't do anything that ANY political campaign wouldn't have done in the same situation.
The FIRST FUCKING WORD IN THE GOD DAMNED TITLE IS "CANADIAN"
Not that I disagree with your apparent GOP hatred.
Canadian politics the way they are, this will go 1 of 2 ways.
1) No one cares.
2) way overblown, guy gets destroyed.
I must say that asking for folk's credit card numbers is not good, pun intended or not. Such could easily be frisked away by anyone tracking POST requests to the site. It's all funny and everything, but that's just too far.
That said, what this guy was able to do to the site and how quickly seems uneasily police-state ish. More in a corporate fascist way.
Do not downmod posts "overrated" simply because you disagree with them.
Click here for the whole scoop and some mirrors:
.ca registrar after they emailed them demanding which part of the Registrant Agreement that they were in violation of. It turns out that it had nothing to do with anonymous registration:
UPDATE: I just got an email from the kids at youthforvolpe.ca. They received an email from their
From : CADNS.CA
Sent : June 1, 2006 8:41:26 PM
To : "Youthfor Volpe"
CC : archive@cadns.ca
Subject : RE: Domain registration for youthforvolpe.ca
Article 3.1
Paragraph (h) (i) and (ii)
(h) not engage in any direct or indirect activity which in CIRA's opinion is designed to bring, or may bring, the Registry into disrepute, is designed to interfere, or may interfere, with CIRA's operations or designed to expose, or may expose, CIRA to prosecution or to legal action by the Registrant or a third party including, but not limited to, any of the following kinds of activities:
(i) directly or indirectly, defaming or contributing to the defamation of any other Person,
(ii) unlawfully discriminating or contributing to the unlawful discrimination of any other Person; or
(iii) committing any other actionable wrong against any other Person including, without limitation, any other infringement of the Person's rights;
Yep, the reason given was because the registrar believed that the website somehow defamed Joe Volpe and the registrar believed that it might expose CIRA to a lawsuit.
This had nothing to do with a technicality of anonymous registration.
If you are a crooked politician, your critics are like hydra - cut one down and 1,000 spring up in their place.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
According to a few of the news sources he did not even know who owned the site, which is interesting because I found out fairly quickly with a whois:
.ca domain no less, this behaviour is intolerable.
.ca Censorship - And yeah, slashdot makes it a rel-nofollow so I am not link whoring it...)
Subdomain: youthforvolpe.ca
Renewal-Date: 2007/05/31
Date-Approved: 2006/05/31
Date-Modified: 2006/06/01
Organization: Mike Hunt
Description:
Admin-Name: Mr Mike Hunt
(-snip-)
So, this domain was up for approximately 2 days before it was nuked by the registrar, this was clearly a very bad move by Volpe - or at least I hope it turns out to be. As a Canadian, and one who owns a
Due to the way Canadian politics works, I expect that a firestorm will start brewing over this. I doubt it will get swept under the rug, even though it involves technology that many MP's do not understand. And if it does get swept aside, I will be one of the Canadians that will not let it rest. It is not often that my government, or a member of it does something that motivates me to stand up as a citizen, and challenge it. (And, I am quite happy about that I might add.)
I hope that this stink damages Joe Volpe's position because his actions are clearly unacceptable. (But, I am not aware if they are actually illegal in Canada, although they should be.)
NOTE:
Having said all that, a poster on my blog provided the following link to the CIRA.CA story which claims that the CIRA did NOT have any contact with Joe Volpe or his staff. Again, one has no way of knowing if this is true. If it is just a concidence, then of course I withdraw my remarks about Volpe, but we just don't know the truth at this time.
(I also blogged about this too: Canadian
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
A CIRA news release on the subject contains some non-rumour info. Basically: it was the register, not CIRA; the domain was cancelled because it wasn't properly registered.
Say a web hosting company in Hong Kong hosts a domain registered in the U.S.A. owned by a Canadian paid by a German bank card issued to a Canadian on a visa in China.
Sure, you can bring down a site by pulling the DNS/hosting but why not just have Americans purchase/host/register your domain and then blog from China?
Articles tend to disappear off of the Globe and Mail site after a week or two:
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Campaign gets tangled in website spoof
JANE TABER
It was all the buzz in official Ottawa yesterday -- a hilarious political whodunit in this age of websites, platforms and templates.
Overnight, someone built a website spoofing Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe and his acceptance of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from children, including the 11-year-old twins of a former vice-president of a generic drug company.
By early yesterday afternoon, the Volpe team had the website pulled down.
It was called youthforvolpe.ca and asked children to donate $5,400 and indicate whether the credit card being used is "mommy's or daddy's. . .
It also included testimonials, and under the heading, "How can you help," it said: "Want to support Joe, but don't know if you can? Talk to your parents, you might have already done your part."
Early yesterday, the website address was flying into the inboxes of politicians, political staffers, journalists and even the strategists from other leadership campaigns.
Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . .
At one point, the Michael Ignatieff campaign's Quebec youth director, Marc-André Gendron, was suspected because the website was similar to other political sites he had created. Mr. Gendron denied any involvement, pointing out that one of the testimonials was from two children named Chris and Toby Aggarwal. As it turns out, Sachin Aggarwal is the Ignatieff campaign's director of operations.
". . . It strikes me as an effort to frame us," a senior Ignatieff strategist said.
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Is he any relation to Dick Hertz, or the Dover twins, Ben and Eileen?
Since when does a smattering of loudmouthed right wingers on notorious anti-Canada sites like LGF and CQ hardly make for a political spectrum?
I've been outside of Canadian politics for a while now, so I can't comment on on Joe Volpe or how internet saavy he or his people are.. However, seems you've just discovered that the domain is owned by... Mike Hunt... Mike Hunt... say it out loud.
I mean, there's always the chance that the person registering the domain had a very unfortunate name. On the other hand this lends credibility to another poster's claim that perhaps the domain was nixed thanks to inaccurate contact info.
"Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine"
I hadn't heard of this fundraising scandal until now. Oops?
the Internet is awesome at creating lines, like the government, that don't really exist.
This is not, in any way, shape or form, a free speech issue.
...... this is the first rule he's since since he launched his leadership campaign that he had tried to have enforced. Hopefully, it's the start of a trend.
CIRA's rules clearly state - and have for as long as *I* can remember - that annon registrations are not acceptable. THat was, and IS, grounds to pull the DNS records.
If there is *any* story here, it should be how the hell did the site get registered in the first place, given that it didn't meet the most basic requirements.
As for Volpe? He has my congradulations
You are aware, aren't you, that Mike Hunt is a joke name? Like Mike Hawk, Dick Hertz, Ben Dover? Read it out loud, laugh a little, and then you can do some more snooping to see that the address and phone number are fake too.
Some updates have come in, and apparently there has been no censorship of any kind whatsoever. The registrants provided false contact information, and Canadian registrars require valid contact information.
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Quite a few of those I have spoken with in the last few years have complained that the U.S. is going to heck. They extoll the many virtues of peaceful, liberal, safe Canada, where the people are very respectful of others and industry does not have free reign to guide the "sheep" wherever they like. It would seem that after all, real humans live in Canada. Wait, wait, I love Canada, don't get me wrong. The U.S. leadership is bailing the ocean into the ship as fast as they can, so to speak. Despite the preconceptions around here, I don't find this kind of news surprising. Instead, I'm just a little more sad about what we're doing to ourselves. We do, after all, elect people just like this everywhere, and at every level. For example, the international good ol' boys business club didn't have trouble with The Pirate Bay shutdown. Not at first, anyway. There's the other side. We've got good folks everywhere also. Thanks to /., EFF and many others there will always be sharing of knowledge. This bragging politician was certainly underestimating the part of humanity that still believes in accountability and communication. I won't count on him learning from it though.
Cheers, I think.
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Gee, I wonder, will the various right wing blogs linked to in the writeup bother to correct their errors, or will they instead continue to fan the flames to the benefit of their political masters in Ottawa?
- Sick of the Right Wing Spin
The important question is... Will you come to the defense of Mike Hunt? Mike Hunt is clearly in need of help right now, and only the actions of truly altruistic individuals like yourself can make bare the facts of this obviously hairy situation.
Reports have it that some of Mike Hunt's other staff members - namely Mr.s Jack Mehoff and Holden McGroin - are organizing and mobilizing a grass-roots defense. I suspect they'll be tempted to use some dirty tactics, but this is clearly not the time to be hitting below the belt. We must hold ourselves to the highest standards and refuse to sink into the deep, dank, stinky chasm of corruption.
After all, that's what Mike Hunt would expect of us all.
You can't win, Darth. If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
I wonder is Mr. Hunt is an associate of Amanda Hugginkis?
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I was going to write an "In Soviet Russia" joke, but all my ideas already worked in their original order.
Someone had to have been paying for the domain and ip address. I'm no expert on Canadian law regarding this sort of thing, but companies releasing information about customers has been a big issue in the US lately. Regardless of what the law says, I don't think that the organizations responsible for those should be forced to out the identity of the person responsivle. We should be allowed to say things and take actions in an anonymous fashion, legal things mind you, in order to protect ourselves from undeserved retribution from government autorities. If the things that were on this site were slander, that's one thing. But if these are real facts concerning, of all things especially, politicians unethical behavior, they need to stick around, and as free people shouldn't have to fess everything the government. In that sense, I salute the Anonymous Coward.
"To lead the people, you must walk behind them"
That's not what this comment upthread says... the registrar (CADNS.CA ) pulled the registration as it was deemed potentially libelous and could expose them to liability... so if that's what they told CIRA they lied...
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The person who designed the site should seek help immediately, I've seen quite of bit of painting whose authors were clients of different mental institution, and by looking at a mirro of this site I'm reminded of some of their works.
This article demonstrates one of the biggest problems with the democracy - idiots have a right to vote.
...at least the cream cheese story had some substance.
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There are mirrors of the site up here, here, and here.
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!
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This commentary seems critical of that politician.
Keep an eye on Slashdot's DNS entries...
Now, Now, Maybe Bush just sees Mihoshi ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihoshi ) as a role model.
It's not entirely a joke name. There was a sheriff here (well, next town over) named that, and in my sister's dance school, a girl named Micah Hunt, which is only slightly better.
I'm not saying it isn't a joke name in this case, but there are people named that.
I take offence.
Mihoshi is my role model.
"store isn't following the fire code"
Except that isn't the case, if you read the next update. The rule cited by the registrar was one where they feared they'd be sued for defamation, and that can't happen where they'd lose because there was no defamation present, just some good ol'e political parody of which is common in Canada.
It's as if the store had a minor code violation that could be fixed, and then a phony trumped up charge was used to close it instead.
Oh You POS
I went to school with a boy names Mark, John and Mike Hunt. And yes we made fun of his name in much the same way you did. Wait until he gets hurt, wet from rain, sore from playing football or goes thru that spell were he didn't shave and grew a beard.
I aint heard from him in a while, dubbo if it could be the same one.
We are at your service. Anything we can do to help Mike Hunt!
Sincerly,
Wilma Fingerdoo.
Richard Smoker (call me Big Dick)
Very aware, however, I do know of a person who is named Richard Head, seriously. Therefore, I was willing to give the registrar the benifit of the doubt.
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
Looks like they registered a .com already ( registered today )
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: YOUTHFORVOLPE.COM
Created on: 02-Jun-06
Expires on: 02-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 02-Jun-06
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration YOUTHFORVOLPE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
http://iesucks.org
Judy Sgro, the previous Immigration Minister ended up having to resign because of a scandal involving funds and bribes from a pizza store owner and strippers. She was very anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, and conservative in her politics. After her resignation, she was replaced by Joe Volpe. Both seem to be not only in bed with the US right wing conservatives, but are in fact stooges of that system which denies poor people the freedom to change their circumstances by migrating across borders and asylum to political refugees.
> Globe and Mail likes to act like things are newsworthy, when they are not
.ca domain make them pretty worthless. If your registrar has to approve of whatever you put on your website and will take it down if they do not (even if it violates no actual *law*), well, why the hell would you host anything on a .ca, even if you are in Canada? There are plenty of .coms left, once you realize that you're not restricted to words you can find in the dictionary...
Good point, he should be glad that all those sites come back up, so that even more children, and not merely those of one of his largest corporate supporters, can enable all of their kids to donate the maximum of $5,400 allowed under Canadian law...
Just think how much he can raise with all the mirror sites going up now!
In the mean time, it has come to my attention that the CRIA's requirements for having a
Volpe's acceptance of these contributions was widely mocked and derided. The website cited in this thread was launched, and got a fair bit of coverage online.
Mr. Volpe subsequently decided to return the donations given by these kids. At about the same time, the website above had its DNS record SUSPD for one of many reasons (the Canadian Internet Registration Authority, CIRA cited a different reason in a press release (failure to provide valid Canadian contact information, as required by CIRA rules for a ".ca" domain) than that apparently given to the domain registrant (disrepute).
The interesting questions I find are (1) how influential were Volpe's minions in getting this site quashed, given that he was a member of the former Liberal government and CIRA operates under the authority of the Canadian Governmental department Industry Canada, and (2) what due process rights does any (".ca") domain owner have, given the speed with which this process executed (especially in light of all the legal expertise which is present on CIRA's board of directors, apparently not even bothering to ask for any court order or proper investigation against this site).
Oh dear. How unfortunate for these 408 people.
(And yes, the other ones you mentioned exist for real as well...)
I don't pretend to be Canadian, but I am your brother to the south.
.ca domains you will find a TON of faked info.
Your right it's not a free speech issue. (I also like how you point out it may be a rule but it does not make it right -- agreed 100%)
It's an abuse of powers issue. It's also happening in the USA.
The Official in government, "Johnny", calls admin "Timmy" to have "Penny's DNS" yanked.
I bet if you check all the
So what are we to do, delete all the BAD DNS's?
I bet there are BOATLOADS of canadian govenment dns's that are "hidden." If your gonna start somewhere start there.
Now...
How to deal with the admin[s] that actually changed the DNS....tapped your telco calls...store data and sell it to the government[s]
that's your real question, your real dilema!
Maybe we all should just go with static IP's!!!
Or just quit using the web.
I am sick of this shit.
I am sick of the government's bullshit.
It's some new fucking law every fucking day.
They want to snoop on us, but they can't be snooped on, we are not even allowed to ASK!~
So you're basically saying that it would be OK under these circumstances to pull someone's domains based on their political beliefs?
Just because the name can be a joke doesn't make it a joke. It really could be owned by Mike Hunt. (Back in the day, there were no less than two completely unrelated Ben Dovers at my high school.) (Also knew a Mike Hawk.)
Furthermore, if it is a pseudonym, I seriously hope that it isn't a valid reason for taking this action. Pseudonyms are an essential tool in a free society; after all, we may be able to exercise free speech, but so can everyone else--including those who may not benefit from what we say. Pseudonyms allow us to bring information to the publics attention without getting directly involved in any fallout which precipitates from the revelation. (Of course, this assumes the revealed information is factual; if it isn't factual and isn't obviously satire, then that is libel which is quite illegal.)
Personally, however, if I was going to use a name such as this for political purposes, I wouldn't have used Mike Hunt. I'd probably would have register the site to two individuals (if that is possible), that way I'd be able to make whichever political figure I was targeting listen to Mike Hawk and Ben Dover.
If someone set up a site that had YOU portrayed for pushing violent games, or whatever, to children. Wouldn't YOU want the site shut down? Is it really a free speech issue when people are confused WHO put up the page in the first place, and wether it's genuine or not?
If all our politicians are crooks, what is the use of democracy? Give people a break and support your candidate, or you will be part of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
Are Captain's Quarters, Pajama's Media and Little Green Footballs "across the political spectrum?" All three are so far to the right they make most American Republicans look like Trotskyites.
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Google already cached it:w w.youthforvolpe.ca/+&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1&clie nt=firefox-a
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:MW-vckW5UbEJ:w
No images, but you get the text and layout at least!
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I don't think he is an associate of Amanda Huginkiss, But I will bet ya he knows Mr. Haywood Jablome!
A witty saying proves nothing. Voltaire (1694-1778)
I actually read TFA and some of the reactions to it. Or should I say "overreactions"?
/.)
As I understand it, someone put up a site taking the piss out of a political candidate, but in a (possibly) libelous way. He had it taken down. I asked myself the question "would I do that if someone put up a similar site about me?" Answer: "Yes".
There are some differences, of course. First, I'm not a politician (God, forbid!) Second, I have nothing to hide (well, nothing that would interest you lot, anyway. Oh, wait - this is
If it were really that damaging, it would be the dumbest thing to close it down and draw even more attention to it. I hadn't even heard that Canada was having elections (nor did I care).
I'm not kidding with the subject header. AM I missing something?
(Yeah, yeah - besides a brain)
Well...as someone who knows information laws in Canada decently well (though IANAL, I'm finishing a software engineering degree in the spring), I can say this: either he found a loophole in how that domain was registered, and got it pulled on a technicality, or it's getting blown open and he's going to jail. Even if he DID get it on a technicality, it could very easily be judged as an attempt to quash free speech, and he's STILL going to jail. On the upside, this is getting into mainstream news and is going to utterly KILL the possibility of him getting elected to party leadership, because the last thing they need is another scandal involving famous party members being arrested.
Also, you do not give up such a right to oppose the government, although to exercise your right might harm your career. If what you are saying were true, it would be absolutely impossible to have any kind of reasonable democratic debate; as an example, the question of how strongly to go into Europe has divided British cabinets through time. For the sake of a larger peace, and also for the sake of democracy, cabinet members have been allowed to campain against government policy without even being demoted.
Wikileaks, no DNS
It's unfortunate. This is just the sort of bullshit that got the Liberals kicked out of office. A lot of pragmatic people admire the consecutive budget surpluses (It's our debt, after all, we're the ones who spent it), but the whole corruption thing is got a bit too grating.
It's been a long time.
The parent has bothered to read the HTML - the POST is not operative, so no danger to your CC# from the fake site.
I've known a number of people named Mike Hunt. Their reactions to the joke ranged from complete obliviousness to mild annoyance.
However, I've never actually met anyone named Heywood Jablome.
The address and phone number are fake too. There is no main street in Belleville, Ontario.
It's back up anyway, under http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/
Hopefully the domain info is correct.
Coward or not mod parent up. The essence of censorship is a large powerful organization preventing the expression of ideas by an individual or less powerful group. For example Noam Chomsky is in essence censored from the main stream media of the USA. It's a moral issue not an issue of laws, how hard is that to understand?
Tired of all the isms, don't exploit people as an employer, or a government, mmmmK?
The former governing party, now the official opposition, is having a leadership convention soon. Kind of the equivalent of a US presidential primary. There's quite a few candidates for the job, many of them slimy ex-ministers. Mr. Volpe here is one of them.
Frankly, he's screwed. Everyone in the other parties will say this is yet another example of Liberal corruption, and every other Liberal leadership candidate will find very polite and honorable ways to attack him and say how much they think he's scum. He'll have very few friends in this whole mess.
And as for libel, they'd have a very tough time proving that in court, especially given the facts coming out about the donations. Political parody is nearly as popular as hockey up here.
I own a .ca domain as well, but I don't think what has happened is any travesty. It's in bad taste and makes the players (politician and CIRA) look like idiots, but that's about it.
.ca account, I knew how lame the rules were and that my domain could get pulled for some stupid reason. When you ACTUALLY READ the TERMS, it is very clear how LAME they really are. Caveat emptor. Don't click BUY if you plan to do anything remotely "risky" and keep your site up.
When I signed up for a
The reality is that Dot-CA is an overpriced and poor alternative to a Dot-Com domain. It's a mickey mouse domain registrar compared to Dot-com (ahem, so you can imagine how lame it really is) so don't expect much when you click "Register".
First of all, pulling a site because of phoney registration info is hardly "pulling the plug on free speech". Thanks Zonk for yet another in your series of sensational and completely misleading headlines. Lots of sites in the USA have been pulled because of fake registration records. Do you want to go on record as saying that the USA hasn't had any free speech for a long time because of this?
Second, the entire purpose of the stephentaylor.ca site is to fling feces at Liberals in a baboon-like fashion and hope that some of it sticks. Look at the "updates" within this single blog post. He starts out by calling Volpe's donations from a pharmaceutical company "drug money" like he got stacks of hundreds in a black bag from a Columbian drug lord. Then he goes completely over the top, accusing Volpe of undermining fundamental freedoms in our society and paving the way for tyranny with his "censorship". Then he admits he got the facts wrong (which makes him better than Zonk, at least) and everything had happened in a legal and routine manner. Nothing he, or anyone else, said later disputes this. He just says that because it's a rule, it doesn't make it right, which is the boilerplate childish fallback for anyone who has accused an opponent of unlawful behavior who then discovers his charges were false in all details.
Third, he produces an excerpt of a letter supposedly from the people who registered the domain fradulently, claiming that the "real" reason the domain was pulled was because the registrar didn't want to expose itself to defamation claims. Questions arise: is the email actually from the people who registered the site? We don't know. Is it the whole email? We don't know. Was defamation given as the only reason the site was pulled, or even as the primary reason? We don't know. I know that's a high enough standard for stephentaylor.ca, which needs a rationale a molecule thick to smear any Liberal in existence, and it's not too surprising that it's a strong enough rationale for Zonk. But it shouldn't be enough info for fair and reasonable people.
The one thing we do know for certain is that the site was registered with phoney info, which is enough to get a site pulled on either side of the border.
All it takes is a google bomb to fix it by linking to the IP address. It'll get crawled and indexed on the IP, as long as the site isn't requiring host headers. :) What is the IP? Link to it in this thread and on your web sites with some phrase, like "scandalous canuck bastard" and the site will be the top hit in Google and Yahoo in a matter of days. :)
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It's all too often that the scum comes out on top, as can be attested to by looking at the current political faire here in the USA.
Bob and Tom rule....
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Remember this story the next time some Net Neutrality proponent tells you how protecting free speech on the internet requires putting the government in charge of everything on the internet.
CIRA is a self important, PITB which makes registrants jump through a bunch of spuriously extraneous hoops no other respactable domain body would think to trouble their users with. It is counter intuitive and anti-business. But surely I must suffer more problems with my lax .com domains than my stringently and more competently administered .ca domains? Of course not.
.ca domains for exercising free speach. Would have thought being a Canadian allowed one to be a free human being but it appears we have yet another board of supersilious morons bending the citizenry over for white guys with lawyers.
Thought I'd better post anonymously in case they yank my
Way to go CIRA, way to serve the public! We need to dump this pile the same way we dumped the Liberals.
The important question is... Will you come to the defense of Mike Hunt? Mike Hunt is clearly in need of help right now, and only the actions of truly altruistic individuals like yourself can make bare the facts of this obviously hairy situation.
My guess is Mike Hunt is about to be screwed.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
...'cause while the website may be gone, the news of the website being gone (and thus information regarding its contents) is spreading like fire in an Okanagan pine forest.
Honestly, Volpe's groupie could hardly have publicised his critic's point of view more effectively.
Foot, meet bullet!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I realize it's an insult to Mihoshi. By the way do you know any girls that see Mihoshi as a role model?
I'd say the whole problem with our government is that it doesn't discriminate based on stupidity.
And the lady said...
.unt.
"Phone call for Mike Hunt"
"Some one is on the line for Mike Hunt!?!"
"I'm sorry.. Mike Hunt isn't available."
And the randy young boys on the other end just about died laughing.
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The punchline is a four letter word for a female that ends in
And My Aunt wouldn't be very funny would it.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
I was just pointing out a few of their many hypocrisies in addition to this alarming act of censorship. Basically, these people have no scruples about oppressing other people who stand in their way.
Yes they do!
Heck, this is nothing new. A blogger in Virginia is being sued by a political candidate who failed to file for a primary because he was distracted by the issues the blogger raised. The story is at http://blackvelvetbrucelee.blogspot.com/
You can also have multiple IP addresses for a single machine
And you have to rent the IP address from your ISP, which in turn has to rent a block of IP addresses from its upstream ISP, on up to ARIN. NAT doesn't solve the problem because the IP has to be globally routable in order to reach the server from the majority of Canada. As of now, neither does IPv6, which few or no ISPs have rolled out completely.
Sites critical of Conservatives do not...
.ca registrations...
Welcome to Canada, where the frogs run everything, including
...that Uncle Joe and I are not related in any way, shape, or form.
www.youthforvolpe.ca seems to be alive and well again (and it is very funny)