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The Pirate Bay Is Back Online
Many readers have submitted news that The Pirate Bay is back online, operating for now as "The Police Bay." Writes one anonymous submitter: "Pirate Bay got new hardware, moved the servers abroad and used recent backups. So the only bad side-effect of this police raid is that hundreds of clients of the ISP PRQ still have not got their servers back from the police. When the police did the raid on Wednesday, they took Pirate Bay from Bankgirot's secure server room. Then they also took all the servers in PRQ colocation facility STH3, effectively disabling a lot of small companies. The connection between PRQ and TPB? - Same owners, nothing more, this is beginning to become a huge scandal in Sweden with coverage on TV and all newspapers 4 days in a row."
Never and none?
Comeon, police officers can generally murder people without consequences, if you actually file a suit for a little lost income any prosecutor is only going to laugh it away.
Sounds like the "fingers in your ears, screaming LA-LA-LA" defense personally.
To be honest, most of the people I've seen support them this way are teenagers our young adult males who simply don't (or can't, because they can't work a decent job) pay for what they're downloading. I used to be one of these -- then I got a job. It isn't really the media companies' fault that you can't get decent work (or that you have no skills and no one wants to pay you). *shrug*
Nice try. By default, copying material that is subject to copyright without permission is explicitly illegal. Care to duck the question on a technicality again?
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
So your statement is inaccurate.
No, I don't think it is. Their purpose is to facilitate crime - however, you have found a legal argument that *might* work in court. They could claim that, of course nobody is likely to believe them whey they call themselves "the pirate bay".
When its in google's cache, they are directly hosting it on their servers- that's a crime, no ambiguity included.
Indeed no ambiguity, they are innocent. They don't put anything there, it is gathered automatically without intent. Makes all the difference.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
The owners of the Pirate Bay don't post any torrents.
They host torrents to illegal material, they know so and refuse to do something about it. That makes them culpable.
There are arguments to be made that Google caching is more legal than TPB,
I doubt there are arguments to be made that Googles cache is illegal or has anything whatsoever to do with the pirate bay. Their intent appears to be criminal, Googels isn't.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
And when it was illegal to strike, the sole purpose of unions was to facilitate crime.
Nope.
And when it was illegal to want to run your own country, the sole purpose of Ghandi was to facilitate crime.
Most certainly not.
the sole purpose of the hardware shop down the road is to facilitate crime (they sell crowbars).
Utter nonsense.
The sole purpose of the cutlery shop at the mall is to facilitate murder.
Nonsense.
Filesharing is not, and should not be regarded as a crime.
Who said anything about filesharing, we were talking about the piratebay.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
They host text files which list ip addresses.
No, torrents are binary files.
Yes, I'm sure they're aware people use those text files to ultimately end up with files which infringe upon copyright of american corporations, but under Sweedish law this is not illegal.
I don't believe that.
So they are not 'culpable' for anything under the laws of the country in which they live and operate.
That remains to be seen.
So, if I sell you a crow-bar, and tell you it's really effective for breaking into houses, I'm a criminal?
It might yes.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Pirate Bay no more INTENDED to faciliate crime than an Interstate Highway is intended to provide a getaway route for bank robbers.
False.
That they CAN be used that way is up to the user.......or highway builders would all be de facto accessories to every crime aided or committed by the existence of highways.
Nonsense.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Seems that I am arguing with a teenager,
Funny, that is what i was thinking.
The original statement was of the logical form "The sole purpose of X is Y" where Y was "to facilitate crime".
For the purposes of ridiculing this, ummmm, ridiculous statement, I replaced X with various other things, to give some indication of the foolishness of such absolutism in statements. You *did* notice this, didn't you?
Yes I did - but my original statement was true, yours was just nonsense.
The sole reason for the pirate bay is to share stuff which is illegal, trying to suggest otherwise is just nonsense. That's not to say there might not be a legal loophole, but nobody (adult) is going to believe otherwise.
Pirate Bay has various purposes,
No, it doesn't seem so.
some of the monetary,
Yes, to raise money for themselves. Noble goal *g*
some of them political.
No, it has nothing to do with the political "pirate party" expect perhaps in some views.
Your original statement was worthless, poorly thought thru, and easily demolished.
Except you failed to "demolish" anything.
I chose to treat it with the contempt it deserved.
And thereby failed to prove anything.
You seem to have missed my deliberately stupid finisher: Sure as the pope shits in the woods, and the bear wears a pointy hat.
This may have given someone more clueful than thou some indication to my intent, as I was worried that your original post was so ridiculous that I was being the victim of a troll, and chose to be playful.
Well, forgive me, I'm not quite up on redneck vernacular.
I thought that you were a troll, but now I know for sure that you are fuckwit.
Ah yes, the last resort of the argument less: abuse.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating