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Abuses of Science Political Cartoon Contest

AngryNick writes "The Union of Concerned Scientists has announced a cartoon contest for amateur and professional artists. 'The absurdity of political interference in science is fertile ground for satire,' said Dr. Francesca Grifo, Director of the UCS Scientific Integrity Program. 'We hope these contests encourage amateur and professional cartoonists alike to express concern--through humor and art--about the impact of the abuse of science on our safety, health and environment.' A celebrity judge panel will select twelve finalists and the public will then choose the Grand Prize winner. The winner will receive a host of prizes, including $500 and an all-expenses-paid trip to have lunch with the celebrity judge of his or her choice. You can read Contest details, sample topics and the list of celebrity judges."

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  1. Can we start.... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we're talking political abuse-of-science, can I link to this essay by Michael Crichton about "environmentalism as religion" just to remind everyone that things like this cut both ways?

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  2. Re:Geee by Cheapy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the Republicans (not necessarily the Right) try their hardest to subvert science, then I would expect scientists to lampoon them.

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  3. The bluntness of scientists and possible offense by spineboy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I worked at N.I.H (National Institutes of Health) in Washington, D.C. for 4 years doing research and let me tell you - scientists love cartoons! - everyones lab door had four or five cartoons on it (usually The Farside). They can also be pretty blunt and to the point. I'm pretty sure some of these cartoons will ruffle some feather quite a bit, which is what we need I guess. Unfortunatley, media portrayal of scientists is not always ideal, and may further serve to spread the barrier between rational thought and the great number of uneducated people who may be religious/creationists. I happen to be Catholic and couldn't be happier on the Vaticans stance that evolution is a valid scientific theory, and that the earth isn't 6,000 years old.

    Please no flame wars about the old churches stance on celestial mechanics - we've all seen it before, no need to bring it up and get side tracked. We are talking about todays political climate.

    And please let's not limit this discussion to evolution and creationists - there's been a great deal of interference on the topic of global warming. The old Republican party stance that it's not occurring has been disproven by the vast majority of atmospheric/climatologists scientists, and have shown it to be a fact. I hate that because Al Gore (A Democrat) is pro-environment, that many Republicans feel that they have to take an opposing viewpoint - what gives!? Yes, I'm sure the Dems do the same with other issues, but we are talking about science here, so let's keep our egos and passions aside and behave like rational thinkers.

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  4. Re:Geee by Pu'be · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given the fact that you posted it I have to presume that you are unaware of the fact that your post is a reasonably good example of why this contest is a good idea and the sponsoring organization is necessary.

    Yes, you are right. (That was sarcasm)
    If you take the time to read the sponsoring organization they are clearly promoting a liberal socialist agenda. One side, anti Bush, Anti republican, etc etc. The kind of organization they are would not let out cartoons critiquing their side.

    But ultimately this has no place on slashdots main page. Let people only listen to one side, I do not care. I take the time to read both sides, and I understand both sides are morons. Thank you for proving though that you have no clue about one sided propaganda.

  5. Re:The bluntness of scientists and possible offens by MustardMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Right.... the republicans are raping the environment because they want to stick it to the democrats. It has NOTHING to do with the millions of campaign dollars contributed by companies that profit from the destruction of the planet.

  6. The Scientific Method by erexx23 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People of religion have been studying science for decades.

    There is no disparity.

    Those who seek conflict only search to reaffirm their own personal beliefs about the world.

    The "debate" deserves parody.

  7. Jesus would have been pro-science. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I read the New Testament, one thing that really stands out to me is the emphasis Jesus placed on always asking questions. He never told his followers to obey him obediently. He wanted them to question his actions and words. He wanted them to think for themselves, and analyze the world around them, for themselves. That's the very essence of science: understanding nature via observation and experimentation.

    A common theme throughout the Gospels is somebody asking Jesus a question, and Jesus telling them to look. Sometimes they would have to look inside themselves, but other times they were told to look at the world around them. They could find the answers there. All they had to do was look.

    Frankly, we don't need comics to prove wrong those Republicans, neoconservatives, evangelists, etc., who have perverted the teachings of Christ. As Christ taught us to do, all we need to do is look! We can look for ourselves at his very teachings just to see how perverted some people's interpretations of them are. And we can use his wisdom in our pursuit of science. As scientists, we always need to be continuously observing, experimenting, and otherwise understanding the world around us. That's exactly what Jesus encouraged his followers to do.

    1. Re:Jesus would have been pro-science. by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I read the New Testament, one thing that really stands out to me is the emphasis Jesus placed on always asking questions. He never told his followers to obey him obediently. He wanted them to question his actions and words.

      You must be reading a different New Testament from the rest of us. For example, Christ's pronouncements on divorce look nothing like your description above.

      Mark 10:2-12: "And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery."

      There is no questioning nor observation nor experiment here. There is a bald pronouncement: divorce is forbidden (there is a hotly contested description of the same exchange in Matthew that may permit divorce on some grounds if we could only figure out how to translate the Greek word "pornei" unambiguously.)

      The key to this passage is the question of scriptural authority vs the authority of Christ. Jesus is saying that even though the scriptures permit divorce, God doesn't approve of it and the time has come to end it. Jesus is claiming arbitrarily and without a shred of empirical evidence that God wants married people to stay that way. Period. He does not mention social ills or practical problems. He simply invokes what God wants. This why Christianity is religion, not science.

      There is no practical way within the Christian framework to challenge Jesus' flat-out prohibition on divorce. To do so you either have to avail yourself of Matthew's ambiguous loophole, or you have to deny the validity of Christ's words in this instance, possibly invoking the fact that we know prohibiting divorce can lead to various social ills, the exploitation and/or battering of spouses, etc, and Jesus was clearly against that kind of thing.

      But once you have done that you are well on your way down the interpretive slippery slope that leads to secular humanism. You'll find lots of friendly people ready to greet you with open arms when you reach the bottom!

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  8. Re:No Politics? by JanneM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But bring up the Nazi eugenics experiments--and bear in mind the eugenics is scientifically established--and they just mumble and walk away.

    Um, Nazi Germany was a self-avowed christian society; atheists were harassed and killed right along with other "undesirables". Does that make christianity bad?

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  9. Re:The bluntness of scientists and possible offens by Illbay · · Score: 2, Insightful
    FWIW, I don't think that (1) global warming has definitively been established, and (2) that there is anything even approaching a definitive establishment as to cause.

    Me, I do believe it's happening--but that human activity has absolutely nothing to do with it. Rather, it's part of the natural cycle that has been in effect since before there WERE human beings on earth.

    The notion that it is caused by what puny humans can do is just laughable. One has only to look at the phenomenon of Mt. Pinatubo and Mt. St. Helens--both of which put more particulates into the atmosphere in DAYS than humans have throughout their history--to realize the earth is a self-regulating system.

    Global warming, if it is really happening, is a natural occurence, and will bring as much benefit as it does harm.

    However, socialist politicians, who lust for the power to establish their order in the lives of individuals, are using it as a pretext for a power grab. This must NEVER be allowed to happen.

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  10. Re:The bluntness of scientists and possible offens by Millenniumman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is significant evidence for global warming, but less showing that it is caused by people. It seems to me that scientists are politically pressured to support global warming, just like evolution (Which I don't necessarily disagree with, but I doubt many scientific organizations would give support to a scientist with another theory, even if it wasn't in any way similar to intelligent design.).

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  11. Sure, I can't think of a better subject to pick. by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heck, if we're talking abuse of science, I can't think of any better subject to discuss than the author of Andromeda Strain, Prey, and State of Fear. The man's been mangling science for years and then making his books look better by tossing a gratuitous biblography of all the papers he supposedly read to justify his plots. (Alien crystal viruses, grey goo, and local cooling disproving global warming, oh my!)

    Michael Crichton doesn't know what he's talking about. State of Fear is filled with junk science. Read a more thorough debunking here.

    The essay you link is nothing but an attack on the argument by attacking the source of the argument as being from zealots. He accuses the environmental movement of being responsible for massive deaths, and claims that they're distorting facts without backing any of it up with "facts" of his own -- except for "facts" like the harmlessness of second-hand smoke. Crichton's a loon and an asshole for making that last argument in particular, but the bulk of the essay argument is that environmentalists are wrong in their assertions (without any justification of why) and thus religious nuts for asserting something that his holiness Crichton declares to be wrong. (Oh, he could cite mainstream articles, but you wouldn't believe him anyway, so why back up his bald-faced lies?)

    He attacks environmentalists as being the same as people who romanticize primativism, use errors on predictions of a socially affected phenomena like population growth show that scientists who care about the environment can't be trusted. He claims that DDT is harmless because it's not a carcinogenic (when it's the liver, immune, and nervous toxicity that actually caused it to be banned). He states that we can't totally roll back carbon emissions without fusion technology, so it's a waste of time to bother reducing them in the meantime. He falls back on the old saw of the environment being a complex system that's hard to understand as justification for not erring on the side of safety.

    His speech is nothing but a litany of half-truths, distortions, unbacked assertions, and ad hominem attacks. So, yes, let's start our discussion of abuse of science with a discussion of Crichton. It's only appropriate.

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  12. So.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So abuse of science, how far does that stretch?

    Could I not argue that science invented weapons so the Iraq invasion is an abuse of science.

    Could I argue that nuclear power was invented to save people, so using it as an excuse to pressure Iran is an abuse of science?

    We could push this so far it's insane.

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  13. Re:No Politics? by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, there's an enormous difference between religion and politics attempting to decree scientific fact (Galileo, creationism) and religion and politics attempting to define biomedical ethics (eugenics, stem cells, euthanasia).

    But as the quote a few stories down, praising Michael Bloomberg for "It is impressive how he very directly demonizes those that would politicize stem cell research, global warming, Terry Schaivo, and evolution" demonstrates -- the lure of conflating them in order to reduce everything to A War On Science is irresistible to a lot of lazy thinkers.

    (I love, by the way, the notion that "demonizing" ideas marks one as an advocate of science against religion.)

  14. $500 isn't much... by jd · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...for a contest that could potentially draw an entry from virtually every scientist, academic, researcher, or otherwise pro-understanding individual in the United States. The potential exists for a few tens of millions of entries, especially given the current disillusionment.


    eg: NASA is currently cutting back or eliminating many science missions in order to pay for the next-gen shuttle, which assumes Congress won't cut NASA's budget over the next ten years -and- there are no cost overruns anywhere, according to the New Scientist.


    eg: The US has spent a miniscule fraction of what it pledged and committed in the fight against bird flu, according to the World Bank. Whether an epidemic ever occurs is irrelevant in this. What matters is that even hard-nosed financial institutions are getting concerned. When the economists think Government is spending too little, it's time to be worried.


    (I'm not singling out the US because it's particularly bad amongst nations - it actually does better than most - but because that's what the contest is about. Had this been an international contest, I'm sure I could find alarming attitudes in every civilized nation on the planet. It wasn't that long ago that the South African Health Minister promoted garlic as a cure for AIDS. Although I suppose there might be a lot of vampires in South African politics.)


    I just don't know how this project can possibly reach its true potential with such limited backing. Most who could enter a truly biting cartoon won't be bothered, because there won't be any perceived value. If getting into the final rounds constituted a publication in a peer-reviewed forum, then perhaps there would be more interest. Money from pro-science organizations towards prizes would have been good, too.


    For those on Slashdot with no artistic talents - enter anyway. Most scientists can't draw worth a damn, so it'll be purely down to the ideas in the cartoon anyway. Besides, there are valid reasons for believing the readers here have a broader understanding of the state of science and the attitudes around it - those focused totally on their subject won't have time to read up on anything much outside of their speciality and so won't be able to so easily draw on attitudes and perceptions that are universal.

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  15. Re:Geee by dasunt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From what I've seen, any area on the political playing field will try to attack science if it hurts their sacred cows.

    Bring up the cost/benefits of Kyoto, and most of the objections won't be from Republicans.

  16. Re:Sure, I can't think of a better subject to pick by Corbets · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He falls back on the old saw of the environment being a complex system that's hard to understand as justification for not erring on the side of safety.

    You had me interested until that point. Come on, that's just a little too obviously biased to let slide - side of safety for whom? Future generations who might be affected? Or current generations whose economic interests *will* be significantly affected?

    I'm not arguing against the theory of global warming, but merely stating that "playing it safe" is an arbitrary term. Some of the anti-global-warming-hype people do think they're playing it safe, but they're looking out for different interests than those you espouse.

  17. wish I could draw... by clambake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Somone steal this and submit it:

    Devil holding up a sign, "My gandpa ain't no monkey!" in a group of evolution protestors. One guys turns and says, "YOU'RE here too?" And the devil replys, "What? And let even MORE people see how brilliant he can be?"

    1. Re:wish I could draw... by clambake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah yes, more to the specific point, which God is more powerful:

      A) The god that creates everything in on feel swoop 6000, filles with incosistancies and plotholes and has to step in every so often to adjust settings here and there.

      B) The one who can plan out events billions of years in advance, making everything fit so perfectly together, using simple rules that are capable of fractal growth into marvelously complex systems that continue to run flawlessly for millions of years without intervention?

      In a head to head battle, I have a feeling that God B will have figured out how to win before the fight even begins.

  18. Re:Geee by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If the present administration were a Democratic one and interfered with science the way the Bush administration has, then it'd make sense to hold a similar contest criticizing that administration's approach to science.

    Don't like it when Republicans are criticized on science? Fine. Then get your Republican leaders not to downplay all climate research that doesn't reflect corporate interests, and not talk about evolution and "intelligent design" as though they were competing ideas of roughly comparable credibility, or treat evolutionary theory as though it were some radical, unsubstantiated idea that wasn't accepted by the overwhelming majority of biologists.

    Yes, science has been politicized terribly by people and governments at both ends of the political scale, and I won't hesitate to acknowledge one of the worst examples I can think of came from Soviet-style "communism," in which Soviet geneticists were hobbled by a state mandate to adhere to a hopelessly outdated and long discredited model of inheritance because it was thought to provide a natural parallel and support for elements of Soviet doctrine.

    However comma in the US, which is a major venue for scientific research and technological innovation (not to mention simply being an enormously powerful and influential nation), as well as the area in which the organization sponsoring this contest is based, political constraints upon or interference with science have typically come from the political right - sometimes because scientific findings are thought to pose a challenge to religious belief, sometimes because they have implications for social policy that don't reflect conservative ideals or that challenge corporate interests, and so on. The Bush administration has repeatedly shown it is one of the worst offenders in this regard.

  19. Re:My winning entry by Chordonblue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The caption for such a cartoon should be: "Not Mohammed"

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  20. Re:It's not a religion 'till someone dies. by TheGavster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's like saying it was the staph that killed him, not the ban on penicilin. Stupid.

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  21. Re:Geee by poopdeville · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You need to re-evaluate your understanding of science. Science proves nothing. Science is the process of creating models of natural (or even unnatural) phenomena, and empirically testing these models via experimentation. But no amount of experimentation will prove that a model is right. Experimentation can only show that a model is flawed, at which point a new model is proposed.

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  22. Re:My winning entry by derubergeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was thinking of something more along the lines of a cartoon showing a Politics & Science Cartoon Contest with a panel of celebrity judges determining the winner.

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  23. Re:Sometimes one side IS actually wrong by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Generally, you're wrong. The left wants to hear what they already believe, no matter how fantastic. The right wants to hear what they already believe, no matter how fantanstic. Moderates want to hear both sides, often so that they can use the confusion as an excuse not to make a decision.

    No he's not, you are. And it's funny, because you are spewing the same "balance" nonsense that the link was lampooning. Even going back to the days of Nixon and Goldwater (who would both be loony liberals in today's GOP), conservative complaints about "liberal bias in the media" were based on their idea that conservative positions weren't given equal time. Whereas liberal complaints are based around the fact that the media not only does not challenge GOP politicians, but are willing deciminators of their propoganda.

  24. Re:Here's an idea, you just need to draw it by schtum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I might be willing to buy the bit about recycling paper being bad for the environment with some evidence to back it up, but there are a couple of points you made that are invalid or misleading.

    1. Gore was never "in power". Bill Clinton was President and he took more input from his wife than from Gore. You could criticize Gore for not asserting himself more, but very few VPs before Cheney have, that I am aware of (I'm young, Dan Quayle's my major point of reference here).

    2. As far as the private jet goes, my understanding is that Gore calculates his entire carbon footprint (home, cars, jets, etc) and purchases offsets in renewable energy from sites like www.carbonfund.org to make his effective footprint zero. How much faith you have in carbon footprint calculations or the effectiveness of purchased offsets is another matter, but you can't call Gore a hypocrite if he believes in both of these things. Another way to look at it is that, if his efforts, wasteful as they may be, result in lots of people collectively reducing their CO2 output by more than Gore is expending, then it will be worthwhile. Either way, you can't seriously expect him to bike across the country or row across the sea to promote his movie.

  25. Re:It's not a religion 'till someone dies. by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    or worse yet:

    "Stuffing cattle into crowded pens can lead to disease outbreaks. Better put antibiotics in their feed."

    Still, until you can show widespread DDT resistance, the analogy isn't entirely apt.

  26. Re:No Politics? by Tatarize · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Liberal Party of Australia is the conservative Australian party. It seems odd that some people don't understand that names don't prove anything. I guess this guy is why the Clear Skies, Healthy Forests, and No Child Left Behind got the names they did. How can you argue against a name?

    I suppose framing things as such helps. Renaming Creationism to Creation Science was probably a slick move. Hitler did just take over a small socialist party and had absolutly nothing to do with socialism (as anybody can tell by his post election activities). Nazi Germany != Sweden.

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  27. Re:Gotta love Slashdot extremism. by erice · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Global warming is not an extremist theory, it is a fact, unless you want to argue with decades of climate data. While it is still hotly debated whether this is because of CO2 emissions, natural cycles, volcanoes, sunspots, or whatever - it doesn't change the fact that the Earth's climate is changing.

    The Earth's climate is always changing. We have been in a warming trend since the peek of the Little Ice Age.
    That's not news, at least to those who pay attention to such things. Unfortunately, the rhetoric has been dominated by questions about whether the climate is warming (never seriously in question) and whether the majority of scientists agree that the climate is warming (Who cares? Science is about evidence. It is not a popularity contest.)

    The part that you have downplayed, the cause of global warming, is actually the important part, arguably the only important part. And the answer to that question, as always, henges on evidence. Too bad there seems little interest among the public or the popular press in discussing that evidence.