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Medical Privacy Laws Highly Ineffectual

Rick Zeman writes "According to the Washington Post, since Americans gained statutory privacy for their medical records backed by the US Federal Government (via HIPAA), the Bush administration has received thousands of complaints alleging violations but has not imposed a single civil fine and has prosecuted just two criminal cases saying that they were pursuing 'voluntary compliance.'" From the article: "'It's like when you're driving a car,' said consultant Gary Christoph of Teradata Government Systems of Dayton, Ohio. 'If you are speeding down the highway and no one is watching, you're much more likely to speed. The problem with voluntary compliance is, it doesn't seem to be motivating people to comply.'"

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  1. I'd modify this story's title this way: by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Since http://www.slashdot.org/ is read through out the world, I'd modify this story's title to read...

    Medical Privacy Laws [in the USA] Highly Ineffectual

    Slashdotters all over the world are smart enough to know that the problem with those medical records is largely a local problem. That is to say, it is a US problem and not a problem for the whole world. Here in Sweden, we have no such trouble.

    1. Re:I'd modify this story's title this way: by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Informative
      Here in Sweden, we have no such trouble.

      I have to say I am surprised. I am sure we have it here in Australia.

    2. Re:I'd modify this story's title this way: by stm2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. The same happens in Argentina, most medical records can be hacked, since most of them are still in paper :)

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    3. Re:I'd modify this story's title this way: by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Informative

      I wouldn't modify the title at all. Slashdot is a U.S.-centric site, and most of its readers are American. Having people from all around the world read it is great, but Slashdot caters to an American audience. If something doesn't state it, assume it is talking about America.
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  2. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by taumeson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having been the HIPAA security officer for the Home Health division of the nation's largest protestant health organization, I can tell you we spent MILLIONS trying to be HIPAA compliant. We locked down servers and databases (encrypted data on secured databases on secured servers on secured networks). We instituted dual-factor authentication and physical security. We stressed our management application to its limits doing our best to ensure patient security and privacy.

    But, again, its the individual workers who matter. Like the time I found out our billers couldn't remember their countless insurance company BBS passwords, so they had a nice spreadsheet they shared. I couldn't get rid of it, but at least I had them put it in their drawers.

    Good grief? Sure, but that was HIPAA compliant.

    So, please, geeks of the world, let's not bash an entire industry based on one article.

  3. Do you really want them to act on every complaint? by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How many of these cases were privacy violations due to accidents, staff inexperience, etc.? Do you really want doctors getting in legal trouble over trivial violations their first time or a particular staffer's first time? That is a GREAT way to drive up their insurance costs which only benefits lawyers and the insurance industry. You, in turn, pay higher medical costs.

    And whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This sounds a lot like the feminist tendency to say "she claimed she was rape, and women never lie about rape, thus she must have been raped." People get impassioned and complain all of the time for invalid reasons. People also complain out of ignorance, what they feel the law ought to be, etc. Broadcasting would be dead if every complaint sent to the FCC was taken at face value, and every slip of indecency were fined.

    How about we work toward some real privacy like, I don't know, fighting to keep the DMV from selling our records, the IRS our tax records (they want to do that now), get laws passed making law enforcement DNA databases available only to the police and NEVER to insurance groups, the DoJ requiring mandatory data retention and things like that.

  4. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by FudRucker · · Score: 2, Funny

    RE:"but at least I had them put it in their drawers."

    ouch!

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  5. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by Nuffsaid · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What "NSA wiretapping debacle" are you talking about? A debacle is when you are defeated. In the case of US Government spying on millions of its citizens, what happended is just that the news got out. Were they forced by public outcry to stop such activities, you could call it a debacle. But, for what I know (I'm not American, so maybe missed something) they didn't stop. US citizens lost, not the Government.

    When scandals explode, it's too easy to think "Aha, they got caught! Now they HAVE to stop this!", but it's not always what actually happens. The fact that many Americans put so much faith in the power of free information speaks very well about the level of freedom and democracy they enjoyed until recently.

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  6. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by plague3106 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem is that the health care facility doesn't care either.

    My wife works in a hospital processing insurance. She complies with HIPPA (because privacy of her medical records is important to her), and will report the many violations she sees (technically, she could be fired for not reporting). However, her manager and upper management never do anything but give a verbal warning.

    There have been some pretty major violations too. They just don't care.

  7. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by taumeson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know how awful it sounds, but think about it another way:

    1. Everybody in the office was theoretically allowed to get to that patient data.
    2. They NEEDED to share passwords because of how the insurance carriers set up their BBS. They only give one username/password combo out per company, but we had a dozen billers.
    3. We worked in a locked office with security.

    So...the information was supposed to be shared amongst the people in the office, but functionally needed to be stored somewhere because, well, "turnover". So our barrier between the patient data and the outside world was twofold:

    1. Even if you had a username and password, would you know how to get my patient data off a greenscreen emulator by connecting to our AS/400 and using passthrough to get it from the government?
    2. We were on an upper floor in a nondescript office building with locks.

  8. It gets even better by plopez · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check this out.

    http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/irs/breaking-i rs-archive-control-sold-to-lowest-bidder-177771.ph p

    Talk about your privacy in jeapordy. How long before these records end up on an insecure server, or off shored to where people don't give a crap and sell the information. Identity theft anyone? How is keeping records secure *not* a core function?

    Every day I wake up amazed at the sheer stupitiy around me.

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  9. Why HIPPA is broken by callistra.moonshadow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Case in point: My father was hospitalized and I was called to approve treatment over the phone. The ER personnel never gave me the HIPPA security code. Later I called to check on his status. The nursing desk staff refused to give me that information citing HIPPA. Uh...they called me as medical power of attorney to give permission to treat him yet they never gave me the top-secret security code. When I pointed out how ludicrous that was they just used HIPPA as the reason to not give me my dad's health status. I managed to bypass the idiocy with the use of said Protected Healthcare information to get the information requested. It just shows that laws are made by the powers, but the analysis of the use-cases that will interact with the laws have not been given the proper review for the cases that are exceptions. So, all that said, nothing surprises me.

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    1. Re:Why HIPPA is broken by jdoc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Let me give you a doctors perspective: HIPPA was created and implemented to, among other things, control the outrageous number of frivolous lawsuits arising from "breeches of privacy". Yes, it helps with privacy issues in medicine, and is needed for said reason. The lawsuits became a real burden in the 90's, just when medical malpractice lawsuits skyrocketed, as did insurance premiums. The Clinton's just sat back and watched, which doesn't surprise me- they've always been anti-doctor (I still remember that famous tour of American hospitals that Hillary went on in the early 90's, in order to see what needed to be done to improve our medical system. Her conclusion? "Doctors make too much money". She opened the floodgates to HMO's, and brought us dangerously close to socialized medicine. Our situation has somewhat stabilized now that Bush has at least spoken up for doctors, but the lawyers and insurance companies, in the meantime, have cleaned house and set a dubious precedent for lawsuits and reimbursements in medicine). HIPPA curbed the rate of lawsuits which were based on the privacy issues, but put restrictions on ALL communications between health care providers and the general population. The rules set forth by HIPPA are confusing at best, so the general attitude is, "don't tell anybody anything about anyone". It's better to deal with a disgruntled patients relative or power of attorney then it is to deal with government fines and expensive lawsuits. It doesn't surprise me that nurses aren't more forthcoming with medical information. Also, someone mentioned the Bush administration's cavalier attitude towards privacy issues. This really has nothing to do with the Bush administration. At least his administration laid down the framework for a privacy laws, which HELPED medicine, which is more than I can say for the Clintons. As far as enforcement is concerned- hospitals will handle issues locally at first. The government won't get involved until a lawsuit is filed, and then it'll come in the form of penalties to the hospital. I dread the day that Hillary gets into office, as do many other health care providers.

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    2. Re:Why HIPPA is broken by Bored+George · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for the tried and true GOP talking points: First, there's no problem here, move along. Second, if there is a problem it is because of the Clintons (or "Clinton's", if you prefer). Nicely done. Your tax cut is in the mail.

    3. Re:Why HIPPA is broken by callistra.moonshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, I agree that there are reasons for HIPPA. I used to work at a firm that required HIPPA certification and I hold a current HIPPA cert. What is troublesome is how the HIPPA laws are used to either avoid dealing with things that are broken, or that they don't necessarily protect the so-called protected information. It could also lead to a person's death if not handled by someone that can bend the rules when the exceptions arise. That's what has me concerned - the lack of a plan for when things don't flow through the gates as expected. It has nothing to do with which adminstration is in power and everything to do with what makes logical sense. The way a hospital enforces HIPPA is broken - at least in my opinion from personal experience.

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    4. Re:Why HIPPA is broken by taumeson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1. Why the hell do people keep calling HIPAA HIPPA? There are two A's, not P's.
      2. There are more lawsuits for "breeches of privacy" than from before HIPAA....I suppose the argument can be made that they're not "frivolous", but I just wanted to point this out.
      3. Some Doctors do make too much money. I know of doctors worth over 100 MILLION. I can't see a big difference between what they did (the one I'm thinking about died a few years ago) and what my GP does. And when it takes a 2 MILLION dollar starting bonus just to get a crappy cardiologist in the door, well things might be out of wack.
      4. HIPAA was passed in 1996...way before the Bush Administration was put into power. As you should know, March and October 2001 were important milestones for HIPAA, neither of which you can give the Bush Administration any credit over as far as fleshing out the framework. Sure, the BA had a lot of input into the rules by the April 2003 enactment of the Privacy portion, but the "framework", as you called it, had nothing to do with them.
      5. Capping liability payouts does very little to nothing to keep insurance premiums down...insurance regulations are the only thing that keeps premiums down. When you cap liability payouts the insurance companies do not pass the savings onto the consumer, and this can be seen by analyzing the states that have passed liability caps. Now, don't get me wrong, I believe punitive damages should be capped and actual damages uncapped, but insurance companies say that unless you give them the power to determine actual damages they aren't going to be able to control costs and therefore don't pass the savings onto the consumer.

    5. Re:Why HIPPA is broken by peacefinder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Speaking as someone who keeps a copy of the HIPAA regs ready to hand, I can say that what you describe is not a problem with HIPAA. Instead, it's a problem with that provider's stupid implementation. There is no "HIPAA security code" in the law.

      If you're involved in the patient's care, they are allowed to release information to you. They do have to have "reasonable belief", when releasing information, to verify that you are who you say you are and that you are actually involved in the patient's care. But the mechanism by which they confirm your identity doesn't have to be especially difficult. Asking you to provide the patient's full name, date of birth, and maybe one piece of other information should be more than sufficient.

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  10. Laws Not Enforced, my story by tiltowait · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Last year my health insurance company, in response to a billing dispute, send me a full page from their billing database. The record for my family took up just one paragraph, and above and below it I could see other patient names, billing codes, account numbers, and more.

    I asked them to explain this, and got no response. I sent the sheet of paper to the US Department of Health & Human Services. A few months later I got a letter back in the mail from them, stating that they had investigated the situation, the provider (Humana) admitted making a mistake which resulted in a privacy violation, and they weren't going to do a damn thing about it.

    So, I'm hardly surprised by this article. Still it's sad to see I was in the 73 percent of cases.

  11. Software and Policies are at fault by SpaceBass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, there is a LOT to HIPPA to understand. People often think any discussion of their medical history is a violation. The truth is you sign a lot over when you sign HIPPA wavers. For instance, the right for your care giver to discuss anything about you with any other potential care giver (often)...you want this, trust me.

    One of the areas that does continually suprise me is that medical records are stored, transmitted and displayed all in clear text. Some of the major manufacturers of the healthcare software often use FTP (not Sftp) to exchange records with their customers. Even internally with in a hospital, records are transmitted from one system to another in clear text.

    If you want security, ask your care give how they are protecting your electronic records.

  12. Lazy /. Editors Create False Headlines by Bored+George · · Score: 3, Informative

    RTFA! This is not about "laws", it's about one law: HIPAA. And it's not that the law is "ineffectual", it's that enforcement of the law is virtually nonexistent.

  13. Practical nonsense.. by jpellino · · Score: 3, Funny

    After a year long bout with several parallel ailments, my GP asked me how I was, and I replied "except for the writer's cramp, just fine". Every visit to a MD office now requires that you fill out and sign the form that swears they promised under HPPA not to divulge anything (maybe not explicitly required but it seems everyone's in CYA mode on every visit).

    As he observed, "What do they think I'm going to do - run out into the parking lot and yell to passers-by 'You'll never guess what Pellino's got...!'"

    And as I observed - you get three or more seniors in the waiting room, and no matter how the small talk starts, it always becomes a grand exposition of their ailments. "Huh! You don't know from gallstones! I should be so lucky to just have your gout!" and on and on and on...

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    1. Re:Practical nonsense.. by peacefinder · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Every visit to a MD office now requires that you fill out and sign the form that swears they promised under HPPA not to divulge anything"

      Then your provider needs to get a clue.

      You only need to sign one HIPAA "Notice of Privacy Practices", once, for each provider. If they give you a second one, it's because their NPP was revised, or they've lost track of the fact you've already got one.

      The NPP shouldn't ever ask you for anything or limit any of your rights if you sign it. It exists to inform you of the clinic's policies, and that's all. You sign only to acknowledge that you got a copy. You don't even have to sign an NPP; you can refuse it.

      If they give you anything at each visit and tell you that you must sign it due to HIPAA, you'd better read it very carefully and they had better have a very specific reason for asking you to sign. It sounds to me like they're either being inept ot sneaky.

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  14. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by electroniceric · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm also a HIPAA security officer, but for a tiny startup, so it's only a small fraction of my job. But you hit the nail right on the head here:
    But, again, its the individual workers who matter. Like the time I found out our billers couldn't remember their countless insurance company BBS passwords, so they had a nice spreadsheet they shared. I couldn't get rid of it, but at least I had them put it in their drawers.
    HIPAA marked a big transition in regulation because:
    a) enforcement is complaint-driven, rather than having an inspection apparatus.
    b) It "scales": for many provisions, you can provide an explanation why you should be able to take an alternate (less onerous) measure.
    c) it explicitly focuses on management controls much more than data specifics.

    As a practitioner, I think this was a good approach (note that part c was taken up in earnest by Sarbanes-Oxley). Data privacy is an extraordinarily complicated affair, and one that is still evolving. Frankly, it's not like other industries in charge of personal data (e.g. finance) have done all that well either. And regulation itself takes time to settle down. Neither of these issues were explored at all by this article. I'd say given how much HIPAA differed from other regulation, and how dynamic the situation is, the implementation timeline has also been reasonable.

    Additionally, medicine is an extraordinarily fractured industry. There is no smooth "supply chain" type model for moving patients or data through the system, rather nearly every transaction is negotiated. The parent touched on this, but I'll go a bit further: a large fraction of medical transactions require human intervention to move data, and a huge amount of medical data has yet to be digitized. This is in stark contrast to physical industries like airplanes or retail, all of which have systematized many or most of their transaction chains.

    I'd say the right thing to do is to give the regs more teeth by prosecuting a few of the worst offenses. Basically, make it easy to show how and why disclosures caused damaged. This will put people on notice that the government is serious about the regs. If that doesn't work, the regs themselves can be tightened up, hopefully in the context of broader data privacy legislation.
  15. HIPAA Protect you from everyone but the government by hagbard5235 · · Score: 2, Informative

    While it's distressing that HIPAA is essentially seeing no enforcement, I find it more distressing that while it hinders movement of my medical information among my providers (requiring forms be signed by me, etc) it explicitely allows any law enforcement agent to waltz in without a warrant and assert without evidence that I am a suspect or victim in a crime and thus obtain my medical records.

    Everytime I hear someone throwing a fit about being able to obtain a warrant to get my library records I think of this. Funny how no one notices MASSIVE give aways of your privacy rights under democratic administrations. Oh, and look up 'know your customer' sometime too :)

  16. Compliance is Audited by ec_hack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most major health care organizations use outside auditors to look at privacy compliance. It is taken very, very seriouly by hospitals and the other organizations. My wife has dealt with the auditors at the ambulatory surgery center where she practices. They have made all kinds of nit-picky changes to their procedures, many of which make no sense. Example: when patients with dentures or retainers go in for surgery, they have to take the appliance out and it is placed in a plastic container of water. The container has a label from the medical records printout attached. After the patient leaves, procedure was to throw the empty plastic container in the medical waste bin for disposal by burning. The auditor demanded that they peel the label off after use and shred it.

    My late father had to have an outside auditor survey his office in order to remain on the list of authorized providers at several major insurance companies.

    The regulations are ambiguous as can be, so violations are going to happen until the appropriate practices are worked out.

  17. HIPPA != HIPAA by TX297 · · Score: 2, Funny
    HIPAA = Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (of 1996)
    HIPPA = Hippopotamus. With an A.

    STOP SPELLING IT "HIPPA"!

  18. Why private rights of action matter by sweetnjguy29 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a classic case of why consumers should have a private right of action to sue in court under the civil law. HIPAA does not allow individuals to sue a hospital or doctor for violations of the statute. (However, a stricter State statute or privacy or contract law might allow a suit)

    There is a growing trend in U.S. Federal Law that grants people rights, but does not allow them a remedy if there is a violation of these rights. This is a direct outgrowth of 20 years of conservative Supreme Court rulings that have gutted the power of the Judiciary to provide remedies for violations of the law.

    The thought process is "well, Congress said you have a right to have your information kept private, but didn't explicitly say that anyone besides the State can enforce this remedy, so oh well, your screwed if the government doesn't want to do anything."

    This thought process is not only unjust, but goes against 500+ years of legal of Common Law. Where you have a right, you should always have a remedy. It is an axiom, and 20+ years of Republican Judicial Activists have destroyed this notion. It is not right, and it is not fair. And it is not conservative. It is radical and undemocratic, and goes against the rule of law.

    See: http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs8a-hipaa.htm and http://www.healthlawtoday.com/hipaa/files/righttos ue.htm and http://www.abanet.org/buslaw/blt/2001-11-12/meade. html

  19. HIPAA's unintended consequences by Wilf_Brim · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a practitioner, let me say that HIPAA is being fairly actively enforced. There are some fairly bone headed breaches from time to time, but there are bone headed privacy breaches in every industry. I can tell you that there have been incredible unintended consequences. First, millions to billions have been spent (and are continuing to be spent) on HIPAA compliance. For the most part, this is money spent nominally on health care that is completely administrative in nature. Ever wonder where all of that 13% of the GDP spent on health care goes? A bunch of it is being spent on HIPAA compliance offices, with 4-6 FTEs being spent training, and doing paperwork. Not a terribly cost effective way of improving health care. Second, everyone now is safety wired into the "don't tell anybody anything" position. If your spouse is in the hospital, and you do not have a designated HIPAA compliant health care proxy, you (by HIPAA rules) don't get to know anything, other than where she/he is. No diagnosis, no prognosis, not what happened, nothing. If he/she didn't or wasn't able to make the designation in writing on admission (i.e. was run over by bus) you will need to jump a bunch of legal hurdles to get the information released. As a medical consultant, it is very hard for me to get information from people trying to refer patients to me. Too often I get the "I can't tell you that; HIPAA" line. Although, to be honest, this is a misinterpretation of the law, but many institutions have taken the view that "unless I have a piece of paper which explicitly states I can release information to you, I'm not telling you crap".

    1. Re:HIPAA's unintended consequences by jdoc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well said. I've been practicing medicine for about 10 years, and I've seen my share of mishaps regarding privacy (even today). The hospital I currently work out of is very strict when it comes to privacy, and the punishments are, for the most part, pretty harsh. But violations, as I've said before, are handled first at a local level, ie the hospital administration, unless a lawsuit is filed. So punishments tend to be non-publicized, but are still appropriate. The public don't hear about remedies unless they're brought to the federal level, so this may skew the effectiveness of HIPAA regulations in general. I'm not sure about this, and I couldn't post any figures that may back this up, but it may be a reason why some think that HIPAA is ineffective. I can tell you that the regulations are confusing, and it HAS increased the cost and decreased the efficiency of the healthcare system in this country- a lot of extra work, paperwork, processing time....

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  20. Warranties by Aram+Fingal · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the thing with HIPAA is that it takes time for it to improve security and privacy. Basically, you can handle it however you want as long as you justify your decisions in writing as being "reasonable." Reasonable security might mean that it would cost so much to do things more securely that it would adversely affect service. There are so many small niche markets for medical information software that your reason for poor security may simply be that you only have two or three vendors who serve your specialty and they all have poor security. Many of these applications were created before security was taken as seriously as it is now and many were designed for isolated LANs but are now being connected to the internet. I hope that the bar will be raised by those people who go the extra mile. Then the standard for "reasonable" will eventually become something which really protects privacy.

    This goes to the topic of software warranties. Most medical informatics software come with something like a "statement of HIPAA compliance." which basically says that the vendor has designed the software in a way that it can satisfy HIPAA if you do your part to make it secure. This is fine in itself. The problem is that these applications don't run in isolation. You need an operating system to run them on and they quite often only run on the operating system with one of the worst security track records in the business. They may also depend on other application software. For example, one which I work with uses Microsoft Word and Word Macros to handle reports from the database. It was designed that way in order to allow the integration of third party options like speech-to-text from a variety of vendors. The thing is that Windows and Word don't come with any statement of HIPAA compliance. They follow the common practice in the software industry of disclaiming all warranty including against negligence.

  21. More than you know: you *are* a number by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    According to HIPAA, at least as of a couple years ago, no privacy violation was too small. Including, say, a nurse coming to the waiting room and asking for "Mrs. Smith". After all, Mr. Jones sitting next to her would then know that woman's name. Instead, the only proper method for calling patients back to the treatment rooms is installing one of those "take a number" dispensers, then calling patients by number.

    Never mind that we live in a small town where Mrs. Smith and Mr. Jones went to kindergarten together and come from families that have been here for 150 years. And forget that my wife is a podiatrist and that visiting her isn't inherently compromising (unlike, say, sitting in the lobby of a clinic for sexually transmitted diseases).

    So, according to HIPAA, my wife is breaking the law each and every time she treats her patients like people instead of numbers. We haven't had a complaint yet and don't expect to, but could technically be busted for violating Mrs. Jones's privacy at any moment.

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    1. Re:More than you know: you *are* a number by taumeson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Names aren't Protected Health Information. You can call them out any time and not get in trouble.

  22. They bypass it legally. by r00t · · Score: 2, Informative

    Want insurance?

    You must sign a waiver of your HIPPA rights. You agree that data given to the insurance company will not be subject to HIPPA regulations.

    Seriously, read the fine print. HIPPA does not exist unless your insurance company was unusually dumb. HIPPA is nothing until the law prohibits waiver of rights.

  23. Re:Do you really want them to act on every complai by Aram+Fingal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One case which I can comment on (up to a point) is one which I was involved in. There was a period, a while back, where we were just beginning to realize the extent of the spyware problem on PCs and we started to install two or three different antispyware applications on each machine. In this process, we discovered that two of our medical transcriptionists had been infected with keylogger trojans which were sending data to an internet marketing company. This, of course, had to be reported as a HIPAA violation. The authorities did nothing as a result of the incident but we started to take security more seriously anyway.

    I had previously argued that these computers should use a particular set of secure, internal, non routed IP addresses which are available on our network (we are part of a large university). In the rush to get the new system going, the people who installed the workstations, had used the regular, less secure IP addresses (which don't require proxies to access the internet). It was surprisingly difficult for me to convince people that using these internal IP addresses was necessary because antispyware software will never be able to catch everything. Not to mention the other security benefits of not being directly visible from the internet. I think many people just don't grok the concept.

    These computers were eventually moved to the secure IP address range (with proxy access denied as well) and other additional measures were taken to secure them but I don't think that would have happened without the reporting requirement of HIPAA. Still, it's surprising that there wasn't any more reaction from the authorities. My guess is that they were just swamped with similar reports.

  24. The main point of HIPAA is not privacy by Aram+Fingal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since no one has pointed it out yet, I should mention that HIPAA stands for the Health Information Portability and Accountability Act. It's the portability part that came first. The accountability part only came after privacy advocates objected. The main purpose of HIPAA was to make it easier to share data among care providers. The medical profession is much more spread out among different specialties and facilities than it ever was in the past.

    One of the basic principals of HIPAA is that you can share data with anyone who is directly involved in the care of the patient and anyone who is responsible for billing for that care. I am involved with a clinical laboratory. We take samples from referring physicians, process them and give the results back. Many patients probably don't even realize that they are in our database. It seems to me that this is one of the weaknesses in HIPAA. You ought to have a right to know who has your data.

    The principal of medical privacy is there to prevent anyone from avoiding treatment for fear that their information will get out. This not only applies to people with diseases which might have a social stigma but it also applies to a case like that of a criminal on the run. Such a person should not have to avoid medical treatment for fear of being tracked through medical records. This is tantamount to denying medical care. Doctors should not be part of law enforcement (of course that general principal is not absolute when you consider examples like child abuse). I wonder if the level of access by law enforcement to medical data may already be causing some people to avoid, or delay being tested for conditions.

    HIPAA needs to to have a number of new provisions. You should be able to find out who has medical records on you, you should be able to get copies and have the original records deleted, or more likely anonymized since many laws require bulk reporting of the occurrence of certain diseases.

  25. Re:Do you really want them to act on every complai by budgenator · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's hard to figure out what's a violation and what isn't; in a 12 mile radius of me there are 7 people with the same first and last name as me, 3 of those people have the same middle initial. Obviously the release of my name wouldn't really be personally identifying, however if my name was qvidis.... it would.

    This HIPPA stuff is affecting patient care right now. 3 weeks ago I burnt my hand at work, so the boss drives me to the Port Huron Hospital ER (newly remodeled for increased HIPPA compliance); there is no triage any more because that's HIPPA sensative data. My pain on their scale of 1 to 10 is about 18, I've got about a square inch of skin just flapping in the breeze, my knees are starting to buckle and the info clerk is explaining to another person how to get to the third floor! Eventually I get to be seen in the ER proper, they start an IV push some morphine into it which takes my pain from 18 to 9, cover my burn with gauze and sterile saline and ask me when I had my last tetanus shot. My personal doctor's office has all of the admin stuff done by Mercy hospital, the records are supposed to be available 24-7, so I get a tetanus booster I don't need in the other arm and they call an ambulance to transfer me to the burn center at Detroit Receiving Hospital. I get to DRH's ER give them all of my data which is inputed into their New computer system, get taken up to the burn center only to not be in the computer system, and have the burns deroofed and debrided ( the definition of pain is yet again expanded for me) and sent down to a bed on a med-surg unit. I remember looking at the clock after I burned my hand and it was 6:05 PM thurs., it's now 3:45 am on friday and I'm not in the new computer system, I guess they can't release personal data that can't be found!

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  26. Eureka! by abb3w · · Score: 2, Funny

    So put this and this together, and we read the secret headline "Midaeval Piracy Laws", thereby tying HIPAA in with the MPAA and RIAA and the basic Slashdot anti-Copyright agenda! Yes, it's a *AA conspiracy!

    Go on, mod me insightful. It's a slow news week so far.

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  27. Re:Considering the recent incidents..... by fishdan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I work for another giant healthcare company, and I can tell you that where HIPPA is making a huge difference for us is in firings. We've let go MANY people that we'd wanted to fire for various reasons, but it's hard to fire people -- especially those who manage to be incompetent at everything except know how to fight to keep their job. Previously, even when we had a "zero tolerance for errors" (something you'd want at a hospital no?) we still could not fire people who made repeated mistakes without going through a HUGE long drawn out process.

    Now, 2 HIPPA violations, and you can fire anyone.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't want to fire people, and I'm not looking for a reason. But it's nice now to have a tool that shears past union complaints etc. And in talking to colleagues, they have expressed to me that HIPPA has been a godsend for them too in trimming off legacy employees who were not able to function in a modern environment, but were too "senior" to release just for being technically incompetant.

    In re-reading before posting, the above sounds cold. I suppose it is, but I'm just talking about the difference that HIPPA has made for us. And great employees don't get dismissed for HIPPA violations, but in a time and place when noone can be fired with out a preponderance of evidence of incompetance, this is a nice loophole.

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  28. My company moved from Blue Cross to "Self-Insured" by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    At my employer, as with many companies these days, the health insurance that's offered to employees has changed from a standard insurance provider like Blue Cross (just for example), to "Self-Insured", under the federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act, a.k.a., "ERISA".

    What this means, besides the loss of virtually all state-mandated consumer protection in the area of medical reimbursement (because ERISA supercedes all that), is that now, instead of a 3rd party insurer getting my medical billing info, and keeping my employer at least an arm's length away from it, my employer gets to see it all.

    So what's the point of "Medical Privacy Laws" if the information is specifically made available to the very people one would probably want to not have access to it?