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Sony's Obsession with Proprietary Formats

geoffrobinson writes "Jonathan Last, writing for a lay audience in the Philadelphia Inquirer, comments on Sony's push for the Blu-ray format: 'Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. One of life's more satisfying ironies, however, is that the same fate often befalls those who fixate on history... ...Obsessed with owning proprietary formats, Sony keeps picking fights. It keeps losing. And yet it keeps coming back for more, convinced that all it needs to do is push a bigger stack of chips to the center of the table.'"

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  1. Those who ignore facts are doomed to look stupid by Clockwurk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Far from being poorly supported, Blu-Ray has wide industry support (over 90 companies) and has the following companies on the Blu-Ray Disc Association board of directors.

            * Apple Computer
            * Dell
            * Hewlett Packard
            * Hitachi
            * LG Electronics
            * Mitsubishi Electric
            * Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
            * Pioneer Corporation
            * Royal Philips Electronics
            * Samsung Electronics
            * Sharp Corporation
            * Sony Corporation
            * TDK Corporation
            * Thomson
            * Twentieth Century Fox
            * Walt Disney Pictures
            * Warner Home Video Inc.

    Of the major media houses, only Universal Pictures has pledged support for HD-DVD.

  2. Re:all failures - Phillips not Sony by gadlaw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ya, Compact Disc - developed by Phillips, not Sony. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i I heard it turned out really well.

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  3. Further to your list... by AnonymousJackass · · Score: 4, Informative

    CompUSA are now offering a variety of BluRay Products for pre-order.

  4. Technologically superior? by RSquaredW · · Score: 5, Informative

    It always seems to come up that Betamax was 'technologically superior' to VHS, and there's always some /.er who posts a refutation. Instead of being redundant, I'd argue that Minidisc was Sony's worst "technologically superior" failure. MD came about a few years before Zip, and had more storage capacity (177 MB versus 100 MB), a smaller form-factor, and the discs were cheaper. However, the software was terrible for audio (you had to record directly into the audio jack) and there was no way to use MD as portable storage until long after the iPod had arrived. There was a huge market for Zip as a middleware between floppy (1.44") and CD-R, and Sony could've aimed MD towards that market and done well (and provided a superior product to those damn Zip disks).

    Even when the first hard-disk mp3 players started coming out, Sony 'updated' with the NetMD software. That software must've been the inspiration for the rootkits of 2005, and was one of thoe most user-unfriendly products I've ever seen. Still no data-recording, even though competing players had that function, and an annoying three-copy rule on each mp3. Add this to a proprietary format and you get a terrible experience - no wonder MD never caught on. Even so, the hardware was good - the HiMD update allows .mp3 and provides hard drive functionality...but too little, too late. I would hope that Sony has learned the lesson of MD: superior technology without user-friendly software is worthless.

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  5. Re:does it really matter? by timsesow · · Score: 5, Informative

    So, if you want to burn your own HD-DVDs, then you better go Blu-Ray, 'cause there aren't any HD-DVD burners coming out anytime soon. I have my first Panasonic Blu-Ray drive in my machine now, and it works great. Burns DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RAM, CD-/+/RW, and 25 and 50 GByte Blu-Ray disks (both -R and -RE). Plugged it into a CentOS 4.3 system (that LINUX for you Windows types) and it just worked. May be expensive ($900) right now, but that is the introductory price (read: recover engineering costs ASAP!). The real price problem right now is media, at just under $1US per gigabyte for rewritable (50GB BD-RE is $43 street, if you buy in quantity). The only HD-DVD media I can get is already recorded with a movie. Not really a computer product, just a TV product and that is sooooo 1980s!!

  6. Re:Those who ignore facts are doomed to look stupi by deltagreen · · Score: 4, Informative

    You make it sound like Sony was the only company backing their technology in the past, and that was the reason they failed.

    As well as Sony and Sanyo, Betamax video recorders were also sold by Toshiba, Pioneer, Aiwa and NEC. The Zenith Electronics Corporation and WEGA Corporations contracted with Sony to produce VCRs for their product lines. Department Stores like Sears in the US and Quelle in Germany sold Beta format VCRs under their house brands as did the Radio Shack chain of electronic stores.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax

    The HD DVD Promotion Group also has a rather long list of members, among them:

    • Broadcom Corporation
    • CANON INC.
    • FUJI PHOTO FILM CO., LTD.
    • Fujitsu Limited.
    • Hewlett-Packard Company
    • Hitachi Maxell, Ltd.
    • Imation Corp
    • Intel Corporation
    • Kenwood Corporation
    • Konica Minolta Opto, Inc.
    • Lenovo Japan
    • Microsoft Corporation
    • Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co., Ltd. / Verbatim
    • NEC Electronics Corporation
    • Paramount Home Entertainment
    • RICOH COMPANY LTD.
    • SANYO Electric Co., Ltd.
    • TEAC CORPORATION
    • TOSHIBA CORPORATION
    • Ulead Systems, Inc.
    • Universal Pictures
    • Warner Home Video Inc.
    http://www.hddvdprg.com/about/member.html

    If Universal Pictures is the only media house supporting HD-DVD, it does seem a bit strange that Warner Home Video Inc. and Paramount Home Entertainment are also members of a group promoting HD-DVD...

  7. Re:How is it Any more by DA-MAN · · Score: 4, Informative

    HOw is it any more proprietary then Toshiba's HD-DVD (or whomever the designing company is)? This isn't a rhetorical question, I just don't know how.

    1) The Blu-Ray license agreement requires that no one make a combo HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player. HD has no restriction.
    2) The Blu-Ray standard allows players to be disabled when they phone home via Ethernet, should the keys of a player ever become compromised.
    3) The Blu-Ray standard will not allow one to burn their own movies. Blu-Ray DVD players check for a hologram, which if it isn't present, will not play video. Say goodbye to making backup copies or putting home movies on HD.

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  8. Re:How is it Any more by wyldeone · · Score: 4, Informative
    Moreover, Blu-ray has unimaginable support by movie companies, because of the very same reason everyone hates Sony and everyone hates the MPAA. The Blu-ray format has more DRM and other copy-protection than HD-DVD does.

    Yeah, because even though HD-DVD and Blueray use the exact same content protection system, blueray's drm is far more onerous.

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