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Apache down, IIS up

Doctor Memory writes "Netcraft's June 2006 web server survey is out, and it shows IIS taking a dramatic upturn, at the expense of Apache. One of the biggest reasons cited is domain registrar Go Daddy switching to IIS for the domains it "parks". The report does go on to note that IIS is also making solid gains in active sites (including some large blog hosts), and further notes that it appears that large hosting companies are dropping Linux." Statistics are fun to play with, of course, but note that Apache's market share is approximately 30% higher than IIS's at the moment.

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  1. Fishy... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stumbled across this tidbit from a NewsForge article on the Go Daddy move:
    The approximately 4.5 million domains that moved are, after all, inactive parked domains -- meaning few people are pointing their browsers at them. As for domains that actually do get Web traffic, plenty of those still remain on Linux at GoDaddy.com, something Microsoft failed to mention in its press release last month touting the domain transfer.

    So, it appears that IIS is the webserver of choice for websites that don't actually need to be viewed. Hmm...

    Also from the NewsForge article:
    The obvious question is, did Microsoft pay Go Daddy or offer any incentive to move its parked domains to Windows? Adelman declined to clear up that issue one way or the other. "We can't discuss the technical aspects of our industry relationships."

    That sounds an awful lot like a 'yes' to me...sure, I can't prove it, but if Microsoft didn't pay or offer incentives, I don't think Adelman would have had any trouble making that known.

    So, basically, it looks like Microsoft paid Go Daddy to switch to IIS for their domains, the vast majority of which were parked anyway, in a rather transparent attempt to massage the numbers. Quelle suprise.
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    1. Re:Fishy... by nxtw · · Score: 2, Informative

      For most users, you pay for Windows and you're done. (There is 10 connection limit on Windows XP Professional, but server versions of the OS do not have this limit.)

      Technically, you need one CAL (client access license) for every unique Windows/Active Directory user that you authenticate. This means that you need one CAL if you're hosting an application that uses the standard anonymous Internet account (and does its own authentication for some other way). This would be the majority of the sites on the Internet.

      But if the application uses Microsoft Active Directory authentication, you need CALs for each user (unless you're running Windows 2003 Web Server edition.)

      You're supposed to be a Microsoft Certified Partner and use special hosting if you're reselling hosting commercially.

  2. Re:Wait for it.... by sjwest · · Score: 2, Informative

    None of our web boxes - all apache 2 (upgraded from 1.3) where being monitored by Netcraft thus it is not definitve imho.

    Our .eu hosts where not included either. - Somebodies been getting a cheque from Microsoft i sense....

  3. Conflicting stats by ASP · · Score: 2, Informative

    SecuritySpace.com's web server survey. Of course the methodology is different....

  4. Re:probably on Microsoft's list of next important by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative
    In fact one of the very first things Bush did when he entered the White House was remove all of the DOJ lawyers on the Microsoft monopoly case who had any legal experience with monopolies.
    Could you please provide a link to this information? I was unable to find any.

    Google is your friend.

    Especially this article from the first page of results: Slap on the wrist? (Salon.com)

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  5. Re:probably on Microsoft's list of next important by dylan_- · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uhh...you don't run your own business. You work for Microsoft (at least, according to your blog). Don't astroturf; it's unprofessional.

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  6. Re:probably on Microsoft's list of next important by Fyre2012 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps the growing demand/use of asp based web apps has something to do with the marketshare growth as well.

    I know that personally, i'd host my asp apps on a Linux box if chillisoft was more common, but it's tricky to find a host with decent support, and all the features needed to run an asp or asp.net.

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  7. It is. by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 2, Informative

    However, since this survey is done monthly, the question is has it been credible in the past

    If you read the link, the largest movement of sites from Apache to IIS was once again at Go Daddy, with over 1.6M hostnames moving from Apache to IIS this month. If you read netcraft news periodically, you'll find that in the past mont they said: The shift is driven by changes at domain registrar Go Daddy, which has just migrated more than 3.5 million hostnames from Linux to Windows. Go Daddy, which had been the world's largest Linux host, is now the world's largest Windows Server 2003 host, as measured by hostnames.

    In other words, there's not a "trend". It's just that Go Daddy is switching to Windows.

    If you continue reading, Michael van Dijken, Microsoft's Marketing Manager for Hosted Solutions, noted that Go Daddy's migration to Windows Server 2003 follows announcements of expanded relationships between Microsoft and several other major hosters,

    In other words, IIS has convinced Go Daddy executives thanks to a whole Marketing Departament for Hosted Solutions. Meanwhile, many other sites are using Apache just because they like it, not because a Marketing departament is trying to convince their executives.

  8. Re:probably on Microsoft's list of next important by sinkemlow · · Score: 5, Informative
    April 8, 2006:

    Yesterday, I went to start my new job at Microsoft. I arrived just after 9:30 and informed the receptionist I had arrived and needed to be escorted into the building. I filled out my parking form, and went to wait. This began the....

    https://www.darklock.com/blog/?p=74

    All you have to do is *read* the blog, just read.
  9. Re:Confess to anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    John Thompson, President of BestBuy.com

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  10. Misleading title by octaene · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, IIS is on the rise, but the submission fails to mention that the number of Apache Web servers still far outpaces all other Web server packages -- Apache is still almost double the number of IIS Web servers.

  11. Money doesn't always get you everything by WebCowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    > It's not like they can pay large percentages of the industry to switch over.

    What makes you think they can't?


    Little things like...oh...the Sherman Antitrust Act, anti-dumping provisions in the WTO, and likely future court rulings and legislation that might result from that sort of behaviour (especially from the EU and Asian countries that are slowly growing more hostile to Microsoft).

    It is one thing to offer your your software for free as has been done with IE since the start. Even when Microsoft moved IE from the "Plus! Pack" onto the Windows install CD when they supplanted Win95 with Win95A there was not much to complain about. MS' practices became questionable by the time Win98 came out, when IE became a required part of the OS install and applications started coming out with IE dependencies as this put competitors at a disadvantage. I say questionable because even after a decade it is still a point of debate if such practices should be regulated.

    With Windows Server, IIS is right on the OS install CD and is increasingly integrated with the OS and other server software (SQL reporting services, sharepoint, team foundation server, etc). This is reaching the point of being questionable behaviour, however I think the competition has accepted that MS has decided such things as web browsers and HTTP servers are "components" of desktop and server OSes respectively--and it is a bit difficult to complain about it when Linux distributions almost universally bundle such applications with their OS installs too.

    as they've shown in the past, they're not at all averse to taking large financial hits to ruin a competitor

    Absolutely. However, selling at a loss or giving software away for free (as in beer) is one thing. Bribing your competitor's customers to switch, especially when your competitor is non-commercial, is not only ethically and morally unacceptable to most people--it is almost always illegal too. The most definite line that would be crossed is going from discounts, to give-aways, to actually offering money or gifts to potential customers. At my place of employment, it is made very clear to everyone that exchanging anything but the most nominal gift with potential customers--even if it doesn't involve luring them from a competitor--is an offence punishable by immediate dismissal even on the first offence.

    Sure, until your PHB strolls in and declares that "we're switching to Microsoft!".

    I feel fortunate that the economic climate where I'm at right now is a job-hunter's market and a person can be selective. Even if it weren't, however, if *my* PHB were to just stroll in and pronounce that we were making major, disruptive IT infrastructure changes without previous consultation with others just because some salesbot from MS offered him some swag then I'd immedately set about updating my resume and finding work elsewhere. Not only do I not like at a job where the opinions and concerns of employees are not considered--it has also been my experience that organisations with managers that "stroll in and declare" such things are destined to fail if they do not change. This goes both ways, by the way--I think that it would be equally as bad if the PHB at an all-MS shop were to stroll in and declare "we are switching to Linux" without any apparent good reason.

  12. Alexa Top-500 Sites: Microsoft-IIS vs Apache by sednet · · Score: 2, Informative
    Rather than an all-encompassing census of every IP address that answers to port 80, I'm much more interested in the web server software that organizations rely upon to handle the biggest sites on the web, those with the most traffic. I downloaded the Alexa Global 500 list of most-visited sites today and polled each of those 500 sites to see what they're running. here's a summary of what i got back:
    • 230 sites with a Server: Apache/* header
      115 sites with some other product in their Server: header
      86 sites with a Server: Microsoft-IIS/* header
      68 sites with an empty Server: header
    Apache is used in almost three times more high-traffic sites than IIS. if you're curious what the 115 other sites announced for their http Server: header, it was mostly GWS and Netscape-Enterprise, here are the top five "others":
    • 43 GWS
      17 Netscape-Enterprise
      9 Sun-ONE-Web-Server
      5 Zeus
      5 lighttpd
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  13. Re: US DoJ is the biggest joke in the world. by walterbyrd · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although msft was convicted, msft didn't even get a slap on the wrist. Even with msft's faked videotape testomony.

    Lately the DoJ has gotten really tough, because msft has not complied with any DoJ ruling. The DoJ had decided they would continue to watch msft. Oh boy, *that* will teach msft!