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Verizon to Launch Mobile 'Chaperone' Service
Billosaur writes "CNET is reporting that Verizon will soon be offering a service (branded "Chaperone") which will allow parents to
keep track of their cell phone-carrying children. Following on the heels of a similar service started by Sprint in April, the system will allow parents 'to set up geographic limits and receive text alerts if their children, who also carry phones, go too far from home. The service also lets parents check where their offspring are via a map on their cell phone or computer.' Disney will purportedly be offering a similar service when it begins selling mobile phones sometime this summer. It's 10pm -- do you know where you child's cell phone is?"
How long until we find out that every mobile phone has this feature and it has been activated by the NSA.
Of course Verizon will say they were forced to submit the information to the NSA.
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The profit comes when some enterprising youngster figures out he can charge money to carry around his deviant friends' cellphones for the evening, maybe even send a text message every once in a while to complete the scenario.
Or better yet, have a bunch of prepaid cell phones, which you loan out to people to use while you're carrying around their parentally-supplied one. After all, nobody wants to be without a phone: it's uncool.
I look forward to watching the segment on CBS where they interview some kid who's doing this and everyone acts surprised that kids can actually think for themselves.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
"If someone's child were to get kidnapped or abducted, all the kids would need to be taught is to turn on their phone, and they can be tracked"
Do you think that the predators don't already ditch the kids' cell phones? Or convinve the kid thay aren't in danger until they are separated from the phone? Right now, I can call 911 from my cellphone, and get fairly close localization for the tower triangulation, or GPS-precise from the E911 location. Why add an automatic Big Brother-like tracking?
How do I prep my kids for emergencies? They learn a martial art, so that if someone tries to abduct they, the perp gets a kickin the groin, a fist to the throat, etc.
How long until we find out that every mobile phone has this feature and it has been activated by the NSA.
Consider part 1 of your question answered with "now". Every mobile phone has this feature.
If you are within range of two or more cell towers, then your position can be triangulated. The more towers nearby, the more accurate the reading will be. It's simply the nature of cell phones as broadcast devices. You can't broadcast a signal without revealing your location.
The second part is a different story. Whether or not any government agency has used this ability is unknown; whether it would be accurate enough for their purposes is unknown to me as well. Nevertheless they certainly could use it to at least roughly track you.
So if you really don't want your location known, do what the teenagers with these phones will do: Turn it off. And when mom/the G-men pick you up and want to know why they couldn't track you, tell them you couldn't get any service.
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lol. quite right. I implemented a mobile tracking utility for a breakdown service here in the UK (so when you called the call centre, they could figure out where you were even if you had no idea).
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First thing that happened.. one woman did the location lookup 50 times... yup, her boyfriends' mobile.
Second thing, the manager's wife had her handbag stolen, with mobile in it (and housekeys and address). He tracked the bag to see if the burglars were heading towards his house. (they weren't, the bag moved in the opposite direction and the bag was later found using it).
The biggest issue with it though, it that the locations are not very accurate - good enough to see which section of motorway you're on, or which village you're in, but to determine exactly the location (like they find terrorists in 24) is fiction. The location is usually within a hundred to a thousand metres depending on the area (number of cells etc).
In any case, tracking someone without their knowledge is illegal, you have to ask. But no doubt you asked your spouse quietly one day while the football was on and they said 'yes dear', so you'll be fine there
It's funny but I was thinking late last week that I would like to implant a GPS in my kids. They're quite young at the moment and would not be able to use a cell phone or other device to alert me to their location. When they play, they play in the backyard and are not allowed out front without an adult (me or a trusted neighbor) out there with them. That being said, it is darn near impossible to keep one eye on your kids at every moment. There are times that, when I do realize that they are out of eyesight; they may have gone from the front yard to the back yard through the garage, I have to look for them. I'm quite paranoid so not but a few seconds go by before I realize they aren't there. I shudder to imagine if they would get abducted.
That's why a "child-locator" device would be so wonderful to have. Think about all the kids that walk home from school and such. I think this is a great idea. Pop the phone in their backpack or put it in their pocket and make sure it's recharged every night and never turned off. I would punish my kids for turning it off for sure.
I think that, as was mentioned in another posts, if you have a good relationship with your kids and help them to understand that this device (or others that are similar) is for their protection, rather than punishment, I think it will be quite beneficial.
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I'm sure the people at Verizon have thought about this a little longer than you give them credit for. For one, the parents will be able to call the cell phone when they want, and bust the kid if he's not there. Any sufficiently clever parent will call at least once to check up on the kid, or establish a precedent of making it likely. Second, Verizon can alert parents when the number is forwarded, or disable forwarding of the number. There's really no way around that without unbelievably serious hacking. And if my kid could do that, then I'd be happy to let him go to where ever the hell he wants to go!
You make good points. I am the primary carer for my to children (my wife works 4 days a week, I work one day a week, and a couple of hours via e-mail and IM each evening) and we do all those things - have meals together do lots of activities, read etc.
My kids are much too young for this - the oldest is three, and yet I am interested in this service. Let's face it - it's absolutely no good as tool to attempt enforcement - any smart kid will simply circumvent it.
But it may (I haven't decided yet) be a useful tool to allow the kids a bit more freedom where there is a good degree of trust between child and parent.
So, for example if my kids, when they are 8 or so want to go and play in the park by themselves or go to a friends house just down the road, I may sit them down and say 'yes, but with one condition - I'm going to worry about you, so please take this with you and keep it switched on. That way if I need you back home, I can call you, if you have a problem you can call me, and it will also let me know where it is roughly, so don't leave it lying around. Do you agree?'
Playing with your kids is great, letting them explore by themselves is important too. Personally, I like the idea of them being able to play and make dens in the woods near our house, but I'm a worrying dad. This technology used wisely might be able to help us all out, we'll see.
But as a tool of control? Stupid idea.
but children have no rights. Oh well.
This used to irritate me so much when I was under 18. It still irritates me, because no where in the constitution does it say anywhere, "these rights are only applicable to those 18 years old or older".
What I find amusing is that a lot of emperors of China, etc, in centuries past were 13 years old. Somehow, recently, we decided an individual is too stupid to think for themselves until they turn 18.
I think most can agree on here, age is no determining factor for intelligence - look at our politicians - most of them are in their 40s, and still brain dead.
-- If we don't stand up for our rights, now, there will be no right to stand up for them later.
After the first 200 calls to 911 that "Tommy's cell phone has disapeared" (only to reappear an hour later when Tommy comes up from his freind's basement) the cops will stop replying to any calls based on this service.
Utterly useless unless you want to find a lost/stolen cell phone which just happened to be left on.
Here will be an old abusing of God's patience and the king's English.
Reminds me of the kid that recently got lost in the woods. He nearly starved to death. Why? Because his parents made him so paranoid of strangers that he was hiding from the rescuers. What did his parents tell the press after the kid was found "I'm proud" that he was hiding from the strangers.
I believe this kid-tracking service was previously (c. 2000) marketed to parents in Europe, then subsequently the ability to turn it off was marketed to the kids.
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A way to remotely enable the microphone, so you can "listen in" on your child (or wherever the phone happens to be).
Why can't they just collide a whole bunch of little hadrons?
Do parents really think that their children won't find out that they can be tracked via their cellphone? That means that if they want to go do something without their parents finding out, then they will simply leave it at their friend's house who they are "staying overnight with" and go do what they want. Except now, they don't have the ability to use their cellphone to get help if they get into trouble - which is why they have it in the first place. It seems to be more detrimental than helpful.
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