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The End of Native Code?
psycln asks: "An average PC nowadays holds enough power to run complex software programmed in an interpreted language which is handled by runtime virtual machines, or just-in-time compiled. Particular to Windows programmers, the announcement of MS-Windows Vista's system requirements means that future Windows boxes will laugh at the memory/processor requirements of current interpreted/JIT compiled languages (e.g. .NET, Java , Python, and others). Regardless of the negligible performance hit compared to native code, major software houses, as well as a lot of open-source developers, prefer native code for major projects even though interpreted languages are easier to port cross-platform, often have a shorter development time, and are just as powerful as languages that generate native code. What does the Slashdot community think of the current state of interpreted/JIT compiled languages? Is it time to jump in the boat of interpreted/JIT compiled languages? Do programmers feel that they are losing - an arguably needed low-level - control when they do interpreted languages? What would we be losing besides more gray hair?"
We might be loosing our ability to spell the verb "lose".
No, wait, too late.
I know what you mean. In Linux, I used tons of music apps like Banshee and Amarok for their features, but got fed up and went back to XMMS for its speed. JIT languages are NOT appropriate for every task.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
Didn't we already do this with lisp, like 40 years ago?
No, no, obviously, they're loosing grey hair in the same sense that one "looses the dogs" -- i.e. they're setting the grey hair free.
fun fact: slashdot is written in an interpreted language (perl).
wait a minute, the kid might be onto something ...
there is no need to sign your posts. this isn't usenet. your username is right there above your post. stop it.
List of things you cannot loose:
- your gray hairs (unless you can command them somehow)
- control
- the big game
- your way
List of things you could be loosing:
- the hounds
- your belt
- an arrow
- responsibility
Did you ever notice that *nix doesn't even cover Linux?
The irony of the tagsoup is delicious...
No, stupid programming maybe... yes.
"All you have to do is be fragile and grateful. So stay the underdog." Chuck Palahniuk, Choke
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All misspellings and grammatical errors in the above post are intentional and part of my artistic expression.
That's
Java and C# are garbage, collected;
The European Commission has just announced an agreement
whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than
German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations,
Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some
room for improvement and has accepted a 5 year phase-in plan that
would be known as "Euro-English".
In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the
sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of
the"k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less
letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like
"fotograf" 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are
possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters,
which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre
that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful,
and they should go away.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be
dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be
aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor
trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze
drem vil finali kum tru!
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By what metric? Expressiveness? Ease of implementation? Ease of maintenance? Error rate? Because, last I checked, low-level languages like C fail on all those points compared to a higher-level language.
It's a little unfair to pick on the low-level language programmers. There'd be more of them here to defend themselves but they're all so busy looking for memory leaks and buffer overflows.Are you going to compile new binaries for every architecture and combination of cores?
As a Gentoo user that is an emphatic yes!
an ill wind that blows no good
Ah, so that's how all our phone conversations are stored.