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Japanese Scientists Make Alzheimers Progress

grammar fascist writes "The AP wire reports that Japanese medical researchers have developed a DNA-based vaccine that reduces the brain plaque beta amyloid without the severe brain inflammation that plagued successes in 2002. From the story 'The deposits have been cut by between 15.5 percent and 38.5 percent in mice, with no major side effects, researchers said Monday in the online edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences [...] If all goes well, this type of treatment might be available for people in six or seven years, [lead researcher Yoh Matsumoto] said.'"

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  1. Headline Mix Up by Sentri · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else read the headline and think: "why have the japanese made people's alzheimer's worse"

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    1. Re:Headline Mix Up by grammar+fascist · · Score: 4, Informative
      Anyone else read the headline and think: "why have the japanese made people's alzheimer's worse"

      When I submitted the story, I initially wrote the headline "Japanese Boffins Beat Alzheimer's Without Swelling," which, besides being much wittier, is obviously much clearer. Boffin swelling is a major problem in this type of research, and its defeat was very newsworthy.

      Darn you, ScuttleMonkey! Darn you to heck!
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  2. Mice. Always. by LiftOp · · Score: 4, Funny
    Always the mice. Again with the mice.

    Just ONCE I'd like to be cured of a disease ahead of the freakin' MICE.

    1. Re:Mice. Always. by nog_lorp · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, they are the supreme rulers of the universe, why do you think they always receive so much medical treatment?! As an aside, how is 4 minutes "not giving other slashdotters a chance to post"? I'm posting in a different damn article!

  3. What is so bad about Alzheimers? by hsmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    You make new friends every day!

  4. Re:Alzheimers Prevention by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even if they can cure it, the damage to the brain has already been done. We are talking about major brain tissue loss here. I doubt even stem cell therapy would help much depending how much damage you've taken.

    Look at it this way. If you have Alzheimers, you're screwed! It's one of the many risks of being Human when you get older.

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  5. Alzheimer's Programs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wyeth and Elan have a drug, AAB-001, which is a follow-up to AN-1792, the drug described as causing brain swelling 2 years ago, except AAB-001 doesn't cause brain swelling and is in Phase II trials (i.e., in humans, and not monkeys), and should be in Phase III at the end of this year. AAB-001 reduces amyloid plaque build-up and there is some anecdotal evidence coming out of the Phase II trial that some patients have achieved significant improvement (although no patient can know for sure they are on AAB-001 since it is a blinded trial.) No need to look towards the Japanese for significant Alzheimer's research, Elan and Wyeth have several programs addressing this horrible disease and are way ahead of the pre-IND drugs described in this article.

    1. Re:Alzheimer's Programs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you do realize that for each overweight drug addict that died from viox, more then 100 got their only chance at enjoying life without constant pain? Ooops, CNN and the NY Times didn't want you to think about that, only that good Lawyers are saving us from the Evil Capitalists.

  6. Biotech vs. IT Careers by billstewart · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm 50. It'd be really nice if they've got that Alzheimer's vaccine down solid in 10 years and seriously improved by 20 years, because I really don't want to get it. It'll also be seriously good for US society if most of the baby boomers who would have been getting it avoid it, so you younger folks don't have to spend as much taking care of us, or at least can deal with mentally competent frail old people. While we're at it, I hope the get the cancer stuff nailed down.


    I've been doing various IT-like things my whole career, whether it's programming, consulting, or whatever. It's been a lot of fun, and I'm not particularly a biotech type, but I hope the tools we've built over the last few decades help the biotech folks do a much better job.

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    1. Re:Biotech vs. IT Careers by xtal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Kinda makes you think about taking up smoking, eh?

      Well you know. Smoking takes ten years off your life." Well it's the ten worst years, isn't it folks? It's the ones at the end! It's the wheelchair kidney dialysis fucking years. You can have those years!

      Food for thought, as I watch my relatives fall victim to severe mental deterioration.

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    2. Re:Biotech vs. IT Careers by slughead · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's a huge link* to obesity + under-stimulation in the brain and Alzheimer's.

      If you don't want to get it, keeping fit and doing brain-stimulation exercises (like programming) may* help.

      * please note that I used the word 'may' in regards to a 'link', before you reply

      At the very least, they have proven that your IQ raises and lowers depending on how stimulating your life is... There is also a strong correlation between getting girls and not being obese, which is always nice.

    3. Re:Biotech vs. IT Careers by glitch! · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Kinda makes you think about taking up smoking, eh?

      You probably don't know how insightful your comment really is. There seems to be evidence of a link between alzheimers and acetylcholine in the brain and nicotine helping the overall situation. More study is obviously needed for us to find out if nicotine really does help treat or prevent alzheimers or if it is just some chance anomoly.

      Food for thought, as I watch my relatives fall victim to severe mental deterioration.

      Please, do a google search for "nicotine alzheimer's acetylcholine" and/or similar terms and see if you can dig up anything useful to your situation. I lost one of my grandfathers two decades ago to alzheimers and commercial tobaccco related diseases. Note the key point of commercial/poisonous tobacco here. He had to quit smoking many years before alzheimers kicked in, and now I have to wonder whether nicotine patches (or whatever) might have prevented the truly gut wrenching problems of alzheimers in his last few years of life.

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    4. Re:Biotech vs. IT Careers by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dying from emphysema isn't a more pleasant alternative.

      -jcr

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  7. No, no, no!! by McBainLives · · Score: 3, Funny

    You're not supposed to make it progress, you're supposed to make it slow down!!!

    Oh, wait- /grumble

    Darn RSS headline-only POS...

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  8. Those scientists won't be too popular today. by GrpA · · Score: 4, Funny

    After last night's soccer loss to Australia 3:1, it seems that most Japanese just want to forget...

    GrpA.

    Heh, But seriously, great research. Good to hear.

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  9. Folding@Home by nacturation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Rather than waiting for ET to call or look for prime numbers, donate your spare CPU cycles to running the Folding@Home client. Its goal is to find out why proteins (mis)fold and how that affects things like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Cancer, Huntington's, and related diseases. Damn, would it be cool to have it be my computer that identified an alien signal... but since a close relative has been diagnosed with Parkinson's I'd much rather do something that's more immediately beneficial.

    It'd be interesting to hear if/how the Folding@Home project has helped out groups like this.

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  10. Re:Aluminum... by alchemist68 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hope this and other stuff like this works before I get my onset... as a kid I had a bad habit of chewing aluminum can tabs, and I'm sure significan quantities broke off over the years...

    ALUMINUM DOES NOT CAUSE ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE. This is a fallacy due to a Biologist not knowing how to operate an electron microscope. At that time, the "Aluminum" in Alheimer's patients' brains was the result of the biologist having the electron intensity turned-up too high, and instead of detecting just brain tissue, the biologist detected the Aluminum support holding the brain tissue.

    So, the moral of the story is: KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE LABORATORY AND HAVE ACCURATE AND PRECISE DATA ANALYSIS WITH MEANINGFUL REPLICATION OF EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS BEFORE PUBLISHING IN JOURNALS!!!

    It's been more than 10 years and the public still thinks that using products with "Aluminum", i.e. soda cans, anti-perspirant, etc... will cause/contribute to Alzheimer's disease. Wrong Wrong Wrong!!!

  11. Re:My Grandma by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know it's a very sensitive issue, but why don't they have programs to test medications like this on people are basically doomed anyway. You don't get better from alzheimers disease. Sometimes you stop getting worse, but you don't get better.

    I'd be quite happy to sign something now to the effect of "if I have dementia to the point where I don't even know who I am any more, and there is a potential cure or treatment, sign me up.". If it kills me, or shortens my remaining life then I haven't really lost much, those around me will have gained something as caring for someone like that is a huge burden (and often significantly shortens the life of the spouse if they are still alive), and will benefit the scientists who are testing the treatment, even if its "oh well... so it doesn't work on people afterall".

    It's probably a bit late to ask me once my mind is gone though.

    With alzheimers though, can they tell yet if it's that or something else without taking your brain out of year head and chopping it up? I remember quite a few years (>10) ago when I had a relative who was thus aflicted, there was lots of initial misdiagnosises (or whatever the plural of that word is), and they basically said that they only way to be sure was to wait until the patient had passed away.

  12. Re:Alzheimers Prevention by Chode2235 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All that they really need to do is prevent its onset by about 10-15 years. If they could do this it would essentially eliminate the disease, as it arrives very late in life. They don't really need an outright cure, but some way to slow it down to the point where we will likely be dead from other things before we really have to worry about Alzheimers.

    There was a great documentary on PBS called "The Forgetting," which went into this, I highly recommend it. http://www.pbs.org/theforgetting/coping/planning.h tml