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U.S. Joins Hollywood in War on Piracy

Section_Ei8ht writes to mention a Washington Post article about a new joint initiative between the U.S. government and the entertainment industry. The government will now be aiding efforts abroad to stop copyright infringement. They cite the recent Pirate Bay fiasco, as well as the problems Russia is having with the WTO as a result of their thriving IP black market. From the article: "The intellectual property industry and law enforcement officials estimate U.S. companies lose as much as $250 billion per year to Internet pirates, who swap digital copies of 'The DaVinci Code,' Chamillionaire's new album and the latest Grand Theft Auto video game for free."

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  1. Re:Stupidity in action by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Interesting
    > This is dumb for two reasons. One is that it is the US meddling in other nations purely internal affairs. The other is that it is yet another war on an abstract idea. (joining the war on terror and the war on poverty) Bad news, you can't win against an idea, only against a group of people (terrorists, pirates, the poor?). And yes there are too many pirates to even think about "winning" against them. They probably make up more than 50% of the population.

    Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens' What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

    - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957.

    In other words, This is smart for two reasons. One is that it is the US meddling in other nations' purely internal affairs. The other is that it is yet another war on an abstract idea. (joining the war on terror and the war on poverty and the war on some drugs, which that other guy forgot.)

    Good news, you can't win against an idea, only against a group of people (terrorists, pirates, the poor?). And yes there are too many pirates to even think about "winning" against them. They probably make up more than 50% of the population, meaning that there's about a 50/50 chance that when we need to put someone in prison, or just sue them into the stone age, we'll be able to do so.

    All we need now is a war on pr0n, and we'll have around 70% of the population as criminals. Then we turn power over to the Democrats, they can declare the Christian fundies that make up our voting base as McVeigh militia whackjobs, and we'll have absolute power over everybody.

    Power corrupts. Absolute power is pretty cool.

  2. I love contributor links... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...such a this one. I used it to send a letter to the author of the linked article. This letter is enclosed below. If it contains factual errors, let me know; I may have listened to the wrong slashbots.

    In "U.S. Joins Industry in Piracy War" you seem to allude to the shutdown of The Pirate Bay early on when you say mention an "illegal file-sharing Web site" in Sweden. Numerous Swedes have been working to set people straight on this - The website "The Pirate Bay" was in no way illegal under Swedish law because it does not itself contain any copyrighted materials, only links to the same. Your assertion that their site is illegal is libelous at best, since Swedish law does not prohibit such a site. In fact, their law only prohibits the exchange of copyrighted material - having it unshared on your hard disk is not a crime.

    Copyright law in the US was intended to protect our cultural heritage, not to provide profit to copyright holders in perpetuity. It is now little more than a shield that megacorporations can hide behind so that they have no need to innovate and bring us something NEW. The two acts which extended copyright were far from being in the interest of the American people.

    The seizure of TPB's servers illustrates that fascism is alive and well, and spreading throughout the world. The police in fact seized numerous servers that did not even belong to TPB as an apparent scare tactic to bring ISPs in line with their wishes, even though they were not backed up by law - if you harbor those who are practicing their legal rights, you may in fact lose business because we will interfere with it, deliberately and without cause.

    By referring to TPB's actions as illegal, you are helping to perpetuate a fraud against the entire planet.

    Hopefully I was correct about all this, but the claims I have made above were made in many long-standing high-score comments in the last discussion about this subject, and not refuted, so hopefully peer review will have made me sound like I know what I'm talking about.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  3. Every time you read this sort of story... by clevershark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...the figures for the "lost revenue" they pull out of their *sses gets larger and larger. I think the industry is goatseing itself there...

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    My sig is too lon

  4. A corollary quote... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Eventually it was discovered
    That God
    Did not want us to be
    All the same

    This was
    Bad News
    For the Governments of The World
    As it seemed contrary
    To the doctrine of
    Portion Controlled Servings

    Mankind must be made more uniformly
    If
    The Future
    Was going to work

    Various ways were sought
    To bind us all together
    But, alas
    Same-ness was unenforcable

    It was about this time
    That someone
    Came up with the idea of
    Total Criminalization

    Based on the principle that
    If we were All crooks
    We could at least be uniform
    To some degree
    In the eyes of
    The Law

    Shrewdly our legislators calculated
    That most people were
    Too lazy to perform a
    Real Crime
    So new laws were manufactored
    Making it possible for anyone
    To violate them any time of the day or night,
    And
    Once we had all broken some kind of law
    We'd all be in the same big happy club
    Right up there with the President
    The most excalted industrialists,
    And the clerical big shots
    Of all your favorite religions

    Total Criminalization
    Was the greatest idea of its time
    And was vastly popular
    Except with those people
    Who didn't want to be crooks or outlaws,

    So, of course, they had to be
    Tricked Into It ...
    Which is one of the reasons why
    Music
    Was eventually made
    Illegal.

    --Frank Zappa (from the booklet of Joe's Garage, Acts II & III - 1979)

    --
    Momentarily, the need for the construction of new light will no longer exist.
  5. Re:Stupidity in action by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's pretty stupid to claim that if we had a war on porn, then 70% of the population would be criminals. If 70% of the population supported porn in a democracy that criminalized porn, then they would be a shining example of stupidity in action.

    Think about alcohol Prohibition. Before and after Prohibition, a majority of adult Americans drank alcohol at least occasionally. (Perhaps even during it, though we'll never know.) Yet the idea was popular enough to get passed via constitutional amendment, requiring the approval of two thirds of both houses of Congress AND all the state legislatures. Not that it wasn't stupid, it was *so* stupid that 13 years later it became the only amendment ever repealed.

    Never underestimate the ability of the American electorate to be precisely that stupid.

    --
    Momentarily, the need for the construction of new light will no longer exist.
  6. The true Costs of Piracy! by dognuts · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a huge difference between perceived loses & real loses.
    They appear to be taking a page out BSA's book to reach such conclusions.

    Using the entertainment industry's analogy, every P2P download represents a lost sale,
    & it sounds & looks good to the average Politician!

    Now if we use an example the flaw will become apparent.

    Example: If Photoshop's latest version get's downloaded via P2P 100,000 times does
    that mean they lost those sale's?

    Answer: At $649 US a pop I very mush doubt it!

    Being generous I'd guess only 1% to 2% of those 100,000 people would truly pay
    $649 US for Photoshop if that was the only way they could get it.

    I think it would be safe to say the true cost of Piracy isn't $250 billion, but closer to the
    $2.5 to 5 billion mark anually.
    In all likelyhood the U.S. government will spend more than that amount each year hence
    forth in fighting Piracy, thanks to the lobby groups mystical figures.

  7. The Pirate Party of the United States by vgmtech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm starting to see a cannon battle of the US and the Pirate Party and it's bay.
    But now The Pirate Party of the United States is emerging what could happen now?
    http://www.pirate-party.us/