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Viral Marketing to Become the Norm?

An anonymous reader writes "One of the oldest advertising companies in the U.S., JWT, has just bought up all the Huffington Post's front-page ad space for a whole week. They are taking the unique approach of trying to create ad content interesting enough to make people want to watch, instead of the traditional ad agency approach of bludgeoning the user base over the head through interstitials and other forced ad techniques. Will the ad companies be able to put forth enough continued effort to make good ads that become viral, or is this just a short phase to gain publicity?"

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  1. What a concept! by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead of MAKING the customer do something, you make it attractive enough for them to WANT to do something.

    MPAA, RIAA: you taking notes?

    1. Re:What a concept! by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The other obvious problem is that eventually, viral marketing will simply reach a point of saturation; and the more viral marketing campaigns there are, the less effective each one becomes. It's quite likely that viral marketing is effective not because of its approach (although its approach certainly is significant) but because of its novelty.

      In fact, viral marketing might lose even more effectiveness as it proliferates. Viral marketing works great when only one or two products/companies are using it, because everyone talks about those two products - but when each person remembers or is interested in only one of many different viral marketing campaigns, they all lose effectiveness. Traditional marketing is probably a much safer bet.

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    2. Re:What a concept! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Guess what? I do not want my advertizing to be entertaining. I want it to be informative. I am tired of products being advertized as a way to meet some emotional need of mine: No, I do not need a BMW to make my peers envious. I do not need to think of McDonalds as a hip place for youngsters. Seeing Lebron on TV does not make me want to buy his shoes... I'm an uncoordinated white guy... your shoes won't help.

      The point of advertizing has morphed from a way to educate to a way to associate it with a feeling or a mood. I think this defines the difference between a capitalist society and a consumerist society. We crossed that a long time ago.

      But I won't go along with it. Maybe that is why I am (generally) happy with life.

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    3. Re:What a concept! by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 4, Insightful
      but not so much for things you actually need (hygiene products).
      The very fact that you mistakenly believe you "need" most hygiene products underemines any credibility you might have when talking about advertising.
    4. Re:What a concept! by 0racle · · Score: 3, Funny

      I assume you never use shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, or soap then?

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    5. Re:What a concept! by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 3, Funny
      I assume you never use shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, or soap then?
      I'm sorry, I'm sometimes so caught up in the the comforts of 21st century first world living that I forget how difficulty it is for some people to obtain the bare necessities of life.

      I think we all remember the great alum shortages of the mid 90's, and the deaths of millions as they ran out of precious, life sustaining deodorant.
    6. Re:What a concept! by Triv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Guess what? I do not want my advertizing to be entertaining. I want it to be informative.

      Then you're statistically irrelevant to the advertising industry. Thanks for playing.

      I do not need to think of McDonalds as a hip place for youngsters.

      ...and I'm guessing you're not a youngster from that statement. Those ads weren't targeted at you. Also: 75% of all advertising is about keeping brands strong. Even if you don't like McDonald's, the fact that you're talking about them right now means they're doing a good job of staying in the public perception. So even if they lose, they win. It's fascinating, isn't it?

      The point of advertizing has morphed from a way to educate to a way to associate it with a feeling or a mood.

      Oh, please. Advertising that doesn't promote an emotional reaction is completely ineffective at selling things. This isn't a new thing - even the automobile advertisements from the good ol' days tried to appeal to your emotional side first before hitting you with statistics and facts and whatnot. You should looks at some of the classic Ogilvy car ads and pinpoint emotionally resonant language, even in the boilerplate. To believe that they were merely informative is a fallacy.

    7. Re:What a concept! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is, there's more often than not not a "rational" reason for buying a certain product. Hell, all detergents are essentially the same. They're even made by more or less the same companies (there are actually less than 5 global players in that market). So what rational reason do you expect?

      We've reached a level where all products are essentially equally good. There is a point at which production cost and quality level off, and there's nothing you can do to make it better without making it also more expensive. Which means that your product is as good as the next one.

      Now, how do you want to sell that to your customer? "Buy mine 'cause it doesn't matter?"

      Not necessarily a good selling point.

      Advertising has appeal to your emotional side. It has to tell you that with some deodorant you're more attractive or you're more entertaining or, hell, in WHATEVER way more interesting to be around. There is no tangible difference to competing products.

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  2. Re:Sorry, but... by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The idea is that if the ads are cool you will tell your friends about them, and then they will see them and spread them to their friends, hence viral.

  3. It's already working! by SEMW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They've already succeeded. It's been posted on Slashdot. What better indicator of sucess in a viral marketing campaign designed to attract attention and publicity do you need?

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  4. Re:Sorry, but... by zlogic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing
    Viral marketing it something that is spread by people, not by advertizing agencies. It behaves like a virus - once you release the ad into the wild, it spreads without your control, because people think it's interesting/funny and send it to their friends.

  5. Hmmm by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sorry, I must have got something wrong...

    You're not saying some time in the future I won't be forced to watch commercials because some gizmo or another preventing me from switching channels? I'll watch commercials of my own free will?

    I don't believe a change of this magnitude throughout the marketing industry is possible.
    It would be nice, though.

    However, I fear that if I start watching commercials thinking I like it, I'll have been brainwashed. And they won't have changed.

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Skidge · · Score: 4, Funny
      You're not saying some time in the future I won't be forced to watch commercials because some gizmo or another preventing me from switching channels? I'll watch commercials of my own free will?

      No, the idea is that you'll succumb to peer pressure and watch commercials because all of the cool kids are doing it.
    2. Re:Hmmm by Petrushka · · Score: 3, Informative

      I admit, it's a sight... but to me, it's not advertising: no message is getting through.
      I just see the boobs.

      This kind of marketing can only get people to see the ad; nothing more.

      Unfortunately, that's demonstrably untrue. The whole point of most advertising since the mid-20th century isn't to appeal to people's conscious judgment, but to achieve an effect at a non-conscious level. Just because you don't think it's having an effect doesn't mean that it isn't.

      Take a look at this, this, snd this -- the last link is to an article on Edward Bernays, who pioneered the deliberate use of psychoanalytic techniques in advertising, with the specific aim of bypassing people's conscious judgment.

  6. Very effective. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most commercials here in Greece are so clever and well-made that you actually switch channels hoping to catch some of them. Their only downside is that everyone remembers the commercial but noone knows what product it's for, except maybe that it's for icecream or a phone company or something. So something for the advertisers to consider is tying the product with the ad, so it's memorable.

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  7. Re:Sorry, but... by Orange+Crush · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're using Viral Marketing and leveraging Web 2.0 paradigms to synergistically create scalable advertising solu--. . . oh bother . . . they're not even using AJAX.

  8. Virual works... by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Viral advertising works because it is rare. How could it be the norm? I seriously doubt that there is enough talent out there to regularly churn out advertising that is entertaining enough. It is, after all, only advertising. People will learn to filter it out.

    -matthew

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  9. Publicity Stunt? by bazily · · Score: 3, Funny
    "...or is this just a short phase to gain publicity?"

    It worked.

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  10. Mass marketing has been dead by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and it will be dead forever. Look at places like myspace. It is pure viral marketing, friends tell friends and friends get friends to join. The amusing part is, myspace makes money off of the old, failed system of marketing, while myspace enjoys having no advertising budget of their own. they have millions of stupid kids out there spouting off how great their service is. it is an amazing feat.

    if anyone is trying to market their business, i suggest they read "PyroMarketing" good stuff.

  11. too late by FudRucker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    as a US citizen (like many others) i have been bombed and hounded by advertising for so long now that i automatically ignore all advertizing like ignoring the background noise in a factory...

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  12. It is a fad. Why? by Jerf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because of the nature of the beast. There is a fundamental disconnect between what they want and what they can get, no matter how good their ads get.

    What they want is for your primary goal in life to be to consume their product. (This is especially difficult in that several hundred or thousand products all share this same goal, and best case scenario is still that only one can "win".)

    What they can get at best is "an interesting commercial", at a much greater expense than just creating a standard annoying-as-hell commercial.

    They'll be pleased with the initial apparent progress towards their goal, but when it caps out long before it gets to making consumption your primary goal in life, they'll become disillusioned and go back to the cheap-but-annoying model, as it has better bang-for-the-buck.

    Advertising's primary problem is that they were able to fool themselves in the past that they were making progress towards making their products our overriding concern, because of the very fuzzy and indirect nature of the feedback they recieved. As they become better at figuring out the real effects of their advertising, they are becoming more desparate to "recapture" their old progress and stature, which is especially difficult as it never existed in the first place. Until they realize that it was always an illusion, and re-align themselves to think of themselves as an investment instead of an attempt to create little quasi-religions centered around products, they are always going to have this problem.

    (Note that most business people already correctly think of advertising as investment and have for a long time. It's "Big Advertising" that has a very wrong mental model of their own importance.)

  13. I keep telling everyone... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... that viral marketing just doesn't work.