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More PDF Blackout Follies

georgewilliamherbert writes "The latest installment of "As the PDF Blackouts Turn" hit today, with a U.S. government apparently releasing a redacted version of their court filing in the Balco grand jury leak case which merely stuck a black line over the text, which remains available in the document. As with prior documents, entering text cut/paste mode in a normal PDF browser such as Acrobat allows a reader to access the concealed text. Previous incidents include an AT&T filing in the NSA case." This works with Xpdf and KPDF, too; for KPDF, use the selection tool (under the Tools menu) around the redacted section, copy to clipboard, then paste into the text-manipulator of your choice.

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  1. Works in Safari directly by Deep+Fried+Geekboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can open them directly in Safari and cut/paste into TextEdit too.

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  2. Redacting right is HARD by nweaver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Redacting electronic documents right is HARD. See, for example, The NSA's guide to redacting word documents as PDF.

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    1. Re:Redacting right is HARD by MrCopilot · · Score: 4, Informative
      17 Pages. Note to NSA.

      There is a much Simpler Solution.

      1.)Print Document.
      2.)Locate and uncap Sharpie.
      3.) Blackout Text.
      4.) Scan to DocRedacted.pdf
      Wow less than the average government paragraph. Seems like the way they have been doing it for years why change now?

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  3. PDF Redaction by Fedallah · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is pretty ridiculous. Products have existed for years to take care of this sort of thing, such as http://www.appligent.com/products/product_families /redaction.php.

    How does this keep happening?

  4. Re:A redacted document? Say it ain't so! by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 5, Informative
    "Redacted" is a legal term of art (i.e. it has a special meaning in the legal context).

    For lawyers/courts/etc., redacted (Per Black's Legal Dictionary) means:
    n), n. 1. The careful editing of a document, esp. to remove confidential references or offensive material. (Cases: Criminal Law 663; Federal Civil Procedure 2011; Trial 39. C.J.S. Criminal Law 1210-1211; Trial 148-153.) 2. A revised or edited document. -- redactional, adj. -- redact, vb.>


    The lesson here is this: if you see a word used in a legal context (or any professional context) and it sounds entirely wrong...ask yourself first whether it might have a special meaning before complaining.
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  5. They're correct. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Their use of redact is completely correct.

    If I am releasing a document for publication and decide to remove information from it, this is redaction. It's editing for publication, which can include the removal of information. It could also include the addition of new information, but that's not what typically happens. Redaction can be a form of self-censorship, but it's not always the same.

    Censorship is when a third party, generally a person in authority, suppresses information which is considered objectionable. The 'authority' can be the same as the author (e.g. 'self-censorship'), or the suppression can be indirect -- it need not be editing per se.

    It's my understanding that "redact" is used only in reference to written documents that are being edited, while 'censor' is more general and can refer to anything. The terms are closely related, especially in their typical use, but they're not exactly the same. "Redact" is actually a more specific and precise word for what's going on in this instance. We can argue about whether censorship is also going on, but redaction definitely is.

    Anyway, arguing about definitions by citing dictionaries is always a bit pedantic, since dictionaries are not authoritative except as a historical reference: they can tell you what a word meant at the time the dictionary was written, but not what it means right now, since a word's definition is determined by its usage. All language is inherently arbitrary: they're just sounds we make or things we write down in order to convey ideas, and the relationship between the sounds/characters and ideas is not fixed, but infinitely variable. If everyone were to decide tomorrow that 'redaction' meant the same thing as 'censorship,' that's what it would mean, and next year's dictionaries would have to be updated to reflect that.

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  6. Congratulaitons. by sammy+baby · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congratulations, Slashdot! The FBI will be along shortly to raid your offices on suspicion of violating the DMCA, the Patriot Act, and probably some other bullshit piece of legislation we don't even know about.

    Oh, yeah - it's a no-knock warrant, so put your pants on now.

  7. Common problem with today's UIs by Namlak · · Score: 5, Informative

    The industry at large (Microsoft being a big offender) has been trying to get us to a this magical place where everything is system and location independent and this is where we end up:

    1) FTP sites in Windows Explorer look like regular Windows folders. People expect them to work like regular folders. I had a field sales force try to "share" an Excel spreadsheet expecting the others to get a "Read Only" copy just like would happen on a local network share. Overwriting madness ensued. You can't blame them, there was no indication that it would work differently. Asking them to understand FTP is like accounting expecting me to fully understand the accounting rules behind my IT purchases.

    2) A manager where I used to work had an Excel spreadsheet with payroll data for the entire company. He wanted to send each department their subset of the data. So he filtered his spreadsheet and sent the filtered lists to each department not knowing that he was sending each department the whole list under teh covers. Luckily, the file was 30MB and choked in the mail server and I was able to bail him out of that huge mistake. But you really can't blame him - he saw something on the screen and sent "it". There should be an indication of underlying data. BTW, doing a cut and paste special made each file about 25k or so.

    Same thing with this PDF error. If your file shows certain information, it should contain that information only or indicate (or warn) otherwise.

    By "simplifying" everything, nobody knows what's really going on. A couple times per week I have to explain some type of issue to some user about how "It's really more complicated than that, see Windows (or an app) hides this from you." User roll eyes as their simple task has become obscurely complicated - all in the name of making things "easier" to understand, ironically.

    If something works different, it should be displayed different - that at least gives the user a chance to question what they are doing.

  8. MS Word Redaction Tool by blackstripe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Assuming the original document was in Word format, I'm surprised they didn't use Microsoft's freely available redaction add-in.