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WinFS Gets the Axe

commander salamander writes "Over at the WinFS Team Blog, Quentin Clark states that Microsoft no longer plans to ship WinFS as a standalone software component. Instead, portions of the underlying technology will be included with the next release of SQL Server (codename Katmai) and ADO.NET. Does this spell the end for the true relational storage paradigm that Microsoft has been promising since Windows 95?"

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  1. What reason to buy? by Ithika · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I hope Vista will come with some serious eye-candy then, cos there's little else people will want it for. (Other than to satisfy their own bandwagon-jumping egos.)

  2. Re:an amazing promise by kylegordon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    DNF... I first took that to be the sporting term - Did Not Finish :-)

  3. It'll ship with.... by MULTICS_$MAN · · Score: 1, Redundant

    ummmm, let's see.... VMS --> WNT --> XOS THat's it! the next stage of operating system evolution,! We'll call it XOS... Nah doesn't have pizazz. Uh,,,, OSX! Yeah that's it we'll call it OSX! the bestest Mickey Soft operating system evahrr!

  4. Re:Rehash of XP by Vancorps · · Score: 0, Redundant

    haha, you're hopeless, utterly hopeless.

    Last I checked its been quite a long while since there was a worm that shutdown large networks all over the world. Sounds to me like there has been progress made. Nothing is perfect and it never will be. Feel free to continue with your pseudo-logic. I'm sure it will take you far.

    OS X NFS and SMB support is broken, it works from Mac to Mac but has serious issues going from Mac to Linux, Mac to Windows. Need only google to find thousands of examples of frustrated admins myself included. Ultimately I just created an Appleshare since that does seem to work reliably.

    I don't have a top end machine and I've even tried it on a 750mhz P3 and yep, Aero has negligable performance impact. Maybe a couple megs of ram difference but its really not nearly as bad as you seem to think.

    As for self-healing your illustrating your ignorance of Vista. Windows File Protection was only the beginning, Vista has taken it a lot further and if you actually ran Vista you would see just how much further it goes.

    You're right about one thing, I've been around long enough to see the transition from 3.1 to 95 and you are probably right that 9x to XP was a greater change for consumers. Vista is a lot more than just new APIs, its a new driver model, its a new security model, its a new way to interact with built-in speech recognition that actually works. There are hundreds and thousands of changes. The new modular system makes patch work a hell of a lot easier and the performance and reporting with Vista makes OS X look pail out of the box. I've never seen a distro come with proper reporting tools but there are some great ones available for Linux. Media Center is quite useful for home users and has nothing to do with plugging the computer into a TV. It sounds like you've never used the product if you think one of its many functions is its only function. That product is currently available as well. Of course the 3.0 framework version is a lot faster.

    Now argue away about Windows being unusable. There is too large of an install base for your statement to have any meaning or merit. Yes Vista is missing promised features but corporate America likes the features that are included and everyone really does serve to benefit from this upgrade. I won't actually upgrade any of my computers to Vista but new machines that come with it will fit in nicely and be trouble free. LUA is fixed in Vista and works beautifully.

    Try it, deploy it, tweak it, customize it, you'll see just how much more flexibility it adds. If you don't want to go through the hassle of learning it then don't spout off about it. It doesn't put you in good light as it accomplishes nothing. As I said, there is too large of an install base to actually believe you and that now includes Vista.