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Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3 Reviewed

An anonymous reader writes to mention a review of the latest Beta release for Internet Explorer 7 on Paul Thurrott's SuperSite. From the article: "While it's not enough to make me switch from Firefox yet--I still love certain Firefox features such as inline search--it's no longer an object of ridicule either. IE 7.0 Beta 3 includes huge functional and security advantages of IE 6 and is an absolute no brainer for anyone choosing to stick with IE. If you are an IE user, head over to the Microsoft Web site and pick up IE 7.0 Beta 3 today." ZDNet has some first impressions of the release as well.

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  1. Not Feature Complete by Nicholas+Evans · · Score: 4, Informative

    IE7 may have all of the features Microsoft wanted it to have, but it still lacks reak XHTML support.

    They've had how many years to get their shit together, but we're still stuck with 'sorry, our implementation is a hack even though we helped write the standard, maybe you'll get THE BASIC FEATURES OF THE WORLD WIDE WEB implemented in 2015!

  2. microsoft users by klyX · · Score: 2, Informative

    should have read "anyone who uses Windows"

  3. WGAS by heptapod · · Score: 2, Informative

    IE is still going to be bloated with legacy code and remain noncompliant with W3C standards. Regardless of the bells and whistles, it will only have an audience through user inertia or ignorance of alternatives like Opera or Firefox.

  4. Re:News for nerds! Ahah by Keeper · · Score: 2, Informative

    Memory usage: Less than firefox (not that that is difficult), more than opera
    Back compat: Seems fine to me
    ACID2 test: It fails miserably, just like every other browser out there
    Transparent ping support: It has it
    7+ crap: basically, sandboxing of IE and other Vista only features

  5. Re:News for nerds! Ahah by toriver · · Score: 4, Informative

    ACID2 test: It fails miserably, just like every other browser out there

    Except Konqueror, Safari and Opera 9.

  6. Re:News for nerds! Ahah by jZnat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uh, Konqueror, Safari, and Opera all fully pass the Acid 2 test, and Firefox passes it on the reflow branch (a specific development branch). Thanks for playing.

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  7. Re:Anyone have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    So wannabe web designers will still be able to create broken pages and get away with it on IE6 AND IE7.
    Gecko, Presto and KHTML also have a quirks mode. It's not going to go away from any browser, including all mobile ones (coincidentally, most mobile phone browsers, sans Opera, treat xhtml as text/html).
  8. Very positive! by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative
    saying something positive about a Microsoft product


    Hmmm, let's see:

    "it's not enough to make me switch from Firefox"

    "it's no longer an object of ridicule either"

    "...for anyone choosing to stick with IE"

    "If you are an IE user..."

    "I still feel that most users would be better off with a more feature-packed browser like Firefox"

    I'm not quite sure that "non-negative" is the same as "positive". I also need to look up on the definition for "lukewarm reception".

    1. Re:Very positive! by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Informative

      "it's no longer an object of ridicule either"

      is what is technically known as 'damning with faint praise'.

      It's not any good at all, but at least people aren't pointing and laughing at it?

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  9. Re:my review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    But this program has no uninstaller!!

    Yes, it does. Be sure to check the "Show updates" box in Add/Remove Programs.

  10. Re:my review by edflyerssn007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Start -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> Windows Internet Explorer Beta 2.

    Follow the wizard to uninstall.

    You're welcome. -ed

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  11. It breaks the new slashdot layout by melted · · Score: 4, Informative

    Installed it yesterday on my old Dell laptop. Turns out it breaks slashdot layout, sidebars to be exact. WTF? I thought it was supposed to have better support for CSS, not worse!

    1. Re:It breaks the new slashdot layout by jiushao · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unless I am misintepreting the issue you are having it is actually not a bug but rather a different behaviour within the specification, IEBlog discussed this Slashdot CSS issue. Exactly who to blame for this inconsistency is hard to tell, but I guess the W3C is first in line with the Slashdot CSS developer second.

  12. Re:Anyone have by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yep, see also Firefox and Opera for more examples of this mindset. I think it's a decent solution. Those not including a DOCTYPE were hardly understanding exactly what they were coding for anyway, and then it's a pretty darn tough job for a web browser to act a mind reader.

    Of course, the Lawful Evil solution would be to pop up a message saing "Invalid HTML document" if no DOCTYPE was present.

    ... and watch your browser's usage share plummet. :-p

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  13. Use FileMirrors to find download URLs by enosys · · Score: 5, Informative

    When a website wants you to go through a bunch of hoops like WGA to download a file there's often a very simple way around that. You can probably find the URL on FileMirrors. If it's something popular like an IE beta it'll probably be on the front page so you won't even have to search. Oh, and here's a link to IE7BETA3-WindowsXP-x86-enu.exe.

    1. Re:Use FileMirrors to find download URLs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The installer includes and requires WGA. Nice try though.

  14. Re:my review by gooseserbus · · Score: 2, Informative

    For more information about uninstalling Internet Explorer 7 Betas, see the following MSDN Blog post:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/06/29/650033 .aspx

    -Goose.

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  15. Re:a finer compliment by clontzman · · Score: 4, Informative

    And Netscape was a 'Pay For' browser. In much the same way that Opera is now.

    Netscape was licensed as a 'pay for' browser, but it was purely by license. Most people (and businesses) ran the freely downloadable version and very, very few people ever paid for Netscape (unless they bought it with a book). It's like saying that WinZip is a 'pay for' product -- what you're saying is factual, but in practice most people who use it aren't paying customers.

    Netscape's business model was to sell server software, not browsers. IIS and Apache did them more damage than IE did.

    Also, Opera's completely free now.

  16. Re:News for nerds! Ahah by drspliff · · Score: 2, Informative

    And the copy of Opera 9 I'm running now has been on the go for the past 4 days, I'm a 'heavy user' and it's seen some action.. yet it's still hovering at ~160mb usage.

    If you take into consideration how much I use it compared to the other programs and how much I value it in my day to day business, I'm perfectly happy setting aside 5-10% of my systems memory. If it were to start climbing into the mid 300-400mb range *cough*firefox*cough* then I'd start to get concerned.

  17. Re:a finer compliment by kubevubin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft sycophant? You obviously haven't read some of his reviews. Despite what you may think, not all of his outlooks on various Microsoft products are positive.

  18. Re:a finer compliment by gkhan1 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Also, Opera's completely free now.
    Well, it's not free free, it's just gratis. You know, speech/beer?
  19. Bug has been discussed between slashdot and MS! by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Informative

    This bug has been known by IE7's developers for at least 1/2 weeks, and in fact they have discussed it with slashdot (or at least tried to). See this for the technical explanation.

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