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Flying Robots Made From Cellophane?

Roland Piquepaille writes "Researchers have discovered that ordinary cellulose is a piezoelectric and smart material that can flap when exposed to an electric field. ScienceNOW reports that electricity can give life to cellophane. When you put a very thin layer of gold on each side of cellophane, and that you apply electric current to the gold layers, one positive, one negative, the cellophane curved toward the positive side. If you switch the voltage fast enough, the cellophane starts to act as a wing. So it should be possible to use it to build lightweight flying robots carrying cameras, microphones or sensors for surveillance missions. Read more for additional references and pictures about this electroactive paper (EAPap)."

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  1. Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bah, I'm too late, it flew away already! :(

  2. I'm angry by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So today on Slashdot we've got flying robots and cars that drive themselves, but nowhere do I see the flying car that Popular Mechanics has been telling us is only five years away for the last several decades.

    1. Re:I'm angry by quokkapox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      nowhere do I see the flying car that Popular Mechanics has been telling us is only five years away for the last several decades

      It's called a "helicopter". You can buy one, or you can rent one for temporary use. If you get seriously injured, a flying car will come and take you to the nearest hospital. Hopefully you have insurance; they're expensive to operate.

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    2. Re:I'm angry by flyonthewall · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.moller.com/skycar/

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  3. Not Piezoelectric by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cellophane isn't piezoelectric. It is just very amenable to carrying a lot of static charge, which is what is being employed in this case.

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    1. Re:Not Piezoelectric by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not so sure about that. According to the article, *cellulose* IS piezoelectric, which may or may not be due to some small-scale movement of otherwise static charge. Cellophane is made from processed cellulose (I'm not sure of the details). I agree that cellophane is amenable to carrying static charge (thus the success -- and frustration -- of cellophane wrap). On the other hand, piezoelectricity is also caused by interactions of (mostly) static charges, usually in certain symmetry classes of crystals.
            Some "sheet transducers" used in ultrasonics (and the really expensive "plastic sheet" speakers) sound an awful lot like this "recent" advance. I'm starting to wonder how new this result really is.

    2. Re:Not Piezoelectric by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Funny
      I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
      No, you are becoming participle, creator of adjectives.
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  4. I for one welcome... by inteller · · Score: 3, Funny

    ....our new paper thin flying overlords.

    1. Re:I for one welcome... by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Funny

      When I first read the title, I thought it said "Flying Robots Made From Cellphone".

      At least they would still be paper-thin...

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    2. Re:I for one welcome... by Warg!+The+Orcs!! · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...our new paper-thin flying overlords that can keep food fresh in the refrigerator for up to three days

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  5. One comment by bytesex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As per usual; the powersource ?

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  6. Speakers? by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could this be used for speakers? Aren't there some speakers that use a membrane instead of the normal speaker cone?

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    1. Re:Speakers? by Tx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Piezoelectric speakers are nothing new, but I don't think cellophane would have any advantages at all over the ceramic materials used currently. And as for electrostatic speakers (which is what I think you're referring to), they don't use a pizoelectric effect, so I don't think this would have any relevance there.

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  7. Artifact Creature by dfedfe · · Score: 5, Funny

    And given that they have a casting cost of 0, we'll have a ton of them.

  8. Surveillance missions uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    So it should be possible to use it to build lightweight flying robots carrying cameras, microphones or sensors for surveillance missions.


    Read: Porn
  9. Need to get my eyes checked. by raider_red · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first time I read that, I read it as "Flying Robots Made From Cell Phones". That would be seriously scary, getting attacked by a bunch of flying cell phones could ruin your whole day.

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    1. Re:Need to get my eyes checked. by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Funny

      That would be seriously scary, getting attacked by a bunch of flying cell phones could ruin your whole day.

      Especially if they were all ringing with incoming calls from telemarketers.

  10. Cool! by Groo+Wanderer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, featherweight sub-gram flying things! I wonder if they can lift the the 23 kilo car battery needed to power it? Still, way cool.

    I am going to wait for the one that can carry the HD camera though, is it worth investing in SD parts at this point in time?

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    1. Re:Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      I wonder if they can lift the the 23 kilo car battery needed to power it?

      Supposing two of them carry it together?

    2. Re:Cool! by meta · · Score: 3, Funny

      Supposing two of them carry it together?
      What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?

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  11. Wingspans.. by Ergasiophobia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wouldn't the wingspans needed to support even a light payload with flapping wings be too large for the cellophane wing to even support it's own weight?

    1. Re:Wingspans.. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Wouldn't the wingspans needed to support even a light payload with flapping wings be too large for the cellophane wing to even support it's own weight?

      Thats correct, though people may develop lightweight payloads as well. Here in Melbourne a bunch of peoople used to (and perhaps still do) fly model airplanes in the domed reading room of the state library. This is a really big room with still air. The planes are made of small amounts of balsa and a sheet made by dripping a plastic compound onto the surface of bath of water. They were powered by a rubber band.

      One of these planes would fly slowly to the roof over about five minutes and glide slowly to the floor. They flew at (I suppose 10 or 20 cm/s). One day I witnessed a disaster when the airconditioning got turned on by accident and the entire fleet got caught in a scale hurricane.

  12. SWAT... by dinther · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gotcha

  13. Re:Wonderful by Kagura · · Score: 2, Funny

    No kidding. If they're going to spy on me, at least let me pay them less to do it.

  14. Watch out for suicide fly bombers! by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they make them with nitrocellulose, then swarms of tiny exploding fly drones could be the new terror weapon. Don't say I didn't warn you!

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  15. explain by cool_arrow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What does cellulose have to do with cellophane? Aren't trees and plants made of cellulose? Is cellophane modeled after cellulose? Could a plant eater eat cellophane?

  16. How is this realistic? by slimjim8094 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok. We have some gold-plated cellophane. How is that a "flying robot"? Not meaning to troll, but isn't that a bit of a leap? I understand how, possibly, that would be useful. But there are other things to a wing than just flapping. There's aerodynamics, and flapping, and such. Aren't there more efficent means of flight than cellophane wings, even if they were feasible? No, I havn't RTFA but I'd be willing to guess that nobody has actually built one of these wings.

    What is the reason for one of these things? Are they more energy efficent?

    The only thing I can think that these would actually hold up (if they could do anything) would be something smaller than a bumblebee. What can a fly-sized robot do? And, in 50 years when we have useful ones, won't we have another means of flight?

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  17. Gold? by Lally+Singh · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why's it gotta be something rare and expensive, like gold? Why not old butter? I've got lots of old butter.

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  18. the really expensive "plastic sheet" speakers by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are not piezoelectric and do not use cellophane.

    They work by putting an electrostatic charge on a mylar sheet, which is close to what the GP poster said.

    And what you call cellophane wrap is not made of cellophane (or cellulose). It's regular petrochemical plastic based.

    Cellophane (both wrap and tape) hasn't been in households for a long time now, at least 30 years.

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  19. This will no-doubt... by NoseBag · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...cause quite a flap.

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  20. Mr. Wizard of the 21st Century by Speare · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, kids, let's do a little experiment together, shall we? Don't forget your shop glasses. Let's get started.

    You're going to need a few household items.

    • some ordinary cellophane tape
    • an ordinary low-voltage lantern cell or battery
    • some ordinary low-gauge solid Bell wire
    • a small sample of 24 carat gold
    • a molecular sump to achieve 10^-10 torr
    • a helix-shaped 5 kilowatt tungsten heating filament
    • a hypobarometric chamber reinforced against 10^-10 torr

    Have your mom or dad, or favorite grad student uncle, to assist you in using the equipment to achieve an even mono-molecular deposition of gold onto your cellophane tape...

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  21. Re:Wonderful by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't worry; any time now, they'll be outsourcing the contract to spy on you to the lowest bidder. They'll make up their profit margin by cutting corners on insignificant things like accuracy.

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  22. Does Roland get a kickback from ZDnet? by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's Roland the Plogger again, writing about something called EA-Pap. That's so Roland.

    Piezoelectric films are not new. PVDF films like Kynar are peizoelectric, and they've been used for hydrophones, speakers, and pressure sensors for years.

    Actually, the big recent advance in pizeoelectric actuators is subminiature rotary motors like this Squiggle device. Now, very tiny motors can be made for applications like camera lens autofocus. The initial application looks to be cramming autofocus machinery into cell phone cameras.

  23. Laden flight velocity? by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are these things african or european?

  24. Re:Very thin on fact by fiendo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Anything that is powered by static electricity is going to be very weak.



    Hmm, think I'll grab a metal umbrella and go stand outside in this lightning storm to test that out.


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  25. Actually... by Goldenhawk · · Score: 5, Informative

    >An airplane wing does not produce lift because it is angled downwards,
    >it generates lift almost purely because of its shape.

    Actually, you are quite mistaken.

    I am an aerospace engineer. I have a BS in Aerospace Engineering and 16 years experience conducting flight test on a dozen aircraft ranging from Cessna- to 707-sized. I have also published papers on the process.

    A wing produces lift according to this basic equation:
    Lift = 0.5 * Coefficient of Lift * Density of the Air * Wing Area * Airspeed squared
    This includes a few approximations since I can't type various symbols in plain test. You can look at the properly written equation here: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/ q0015b.shtml

    Coefficient of lift, part of that equation, is itself a direct function of Angle of Attack - the angle at which the chord of the wing meets the air. ("Chord" is defined, roughly, as a line between the front and back edges of the wing.)

    The wing curvature, or camber as you correctly call it, is a contributor, but far from the only one, to the equation of lift coefficient versus angle of attack. A flat, or non-cambered, wing will produce zero lift at zero angle of attack. Increase the camber, up to a point, and you increase the lift at zero angle of attack. Or you can increase the angle of attack at zero camber to increase the lift. For that matter, you can spin a cylinder in an airflow and generate lift - zero camber, zero angle of attack (it's a circular cross section, so there's no angle!). So there are MANY factors influencing lift - any combination of these is possible; you just need to select which ones are most beneficial to a given design requirement.

    As a matter of fact, the first documented equation to describe lift included only angle of attack and speed. It wasn't until decades later that careful observation of bird wing structure revealed the importance of camber. There's an intriguing story here about the Wright brothers and their development of the theory of lifting bodies, and how they overturned decades of established wisdom: http://www.first-to-fly.com/Adventure/Workshop/lif t_and_drift.htm

    In a very simple and small wing (like most insects, which obviously can fly), it's almost ALL angle of attack, and no camber. Consider a dragonfly. The wings are perfectly flat. And the creature must create not only lift but also forward thrust with those wings. Quick and repetitive motions (as mentioned in this article) are perfect for this requirement. Camber has nothing to do with it, and camber, in fact, would impede the dragonfly, because the wing must also be capable of generating lift while moving backwards - and any effective camber is usually detrimental while going backwards. Finally, in the case of insects, the qualities of air are different at small scales (the so-called Reynolds Number effects) and lift operates somewhat differently from in large airplanes.

    Consider also a dime-store balsa wood glider. In its cheapest form, the wing is completely flat. Yet it flies just fine. Or consider the paper airplane. It flies just fine with a slab of paper for a wing.

    In short, you can take this article at face value regarding simple wings and lift. There are other wishful comments, but the aerodynamic description is quite fine.

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