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Workplace Romance A No-No at Gates Foundation

theodp writes "The past week has brought NY Times coverage of the workplace romance of Gates Foundation co-chairs Bill and Melinda Gates, as well as Newsweek coverage of the workplace romance of Gates Foundation CEO Patty Stonesifer and her subordinate, Slate Editor-in-Chief Michael Kinsley. So the Foundation's Conflict of Interest Policy comes off as just a tad hypocritical: 'Additionally, certain types of relationships between co-workers may create impermissible conflicts of interest. For example, a romantic relationship in the workplace may raise perceptions of bias and favoritism.'"

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  1. Re:I heard it through the grapevine... by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, one night he borrowed his friend's lotus, and couldn't get the thing to shift right, and he got lost... wait, that's not it.

    All those policies of 'no workplace romance' are b.s., the foundation of American small business is the mom-and-pop shop, not the mom-or-pop shop.

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  2. Definitely a Slow News Day by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I was furiously searching for something insightful to write, I determined that this story is essentially devoid of value. I don't even know if there is an opportunity to trash Gates here. I know this is effectively a four day holiday for many people, but certainly there must be other stories with a modicum of news value worth posting.

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  3. RTFA Submitter by sparkhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't say they're forbidden, it says they should be disclosed to HR. It's a fairly common practice.

  4. Re:I heard it through the grapevine... by tehgimpness · · Score: 3, Funny

    the foundation of American small business is the mom-and-pop shop, not the mom-or-pop shop.

    Or in more liberal areas: the 'mom-and-mom' shop.

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  5. Yep. An issue by MImeKillEr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless one of them didn't report directly to the other. Of course, then neither of them would be a subordinate.

    Still, its hyprocritical.

    While talking about the foundation: Anyone else notice that Warren Buffet is so rich that he hired Bill Gates to spend his money?

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  6. What's wrong with office romances? by dk-software-engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the company I work in (danish company) more than 10% of the employees are married to each other. And we are hundres of employees, so I think there's enough statistical data to toy with.

    What if office romances was not allowed here? Why shouldn't it be allowed, as long as they are not romancing in the office? I regularly see people coming to work holding hands, and people from different departmens eating together, and that's it. I don't see any problems here. (But if people here keep marrying each other (or hiring spouses), this could be a family business in a few generations...)

    1. Re:What's wrong with office romances? by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where I went to high school, we had 4 or 5 teacher couples who were working in the same school. I'm not sure why, but it seems like teachers have a very high rate of being married to other teachers. Probably has something to do with meeting in teacher's college. Anyway, I don't think it really caused any problems. I think the problem comes more from starting new relationships within the organization. You go out for six months, and then she cheats on you with tim in the cubicle next to you. This could create some very bad team dynamics. This is why I wouldn't recommend pursuing someone you have to work with on a daily basis. On the other hand, if you work in a large company with a thousand employees in the one building, and you spend 8 hours a day there, then it's probably your best chance for meeting someone. Outright banning office romances is a bad thing. If people get into relationships, and they break up, and then can't work properly together, then it's probably time for management to step in.

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  7. Don't look for many comments on this topic... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't look for many comments on this topic...methinks the average Slashdotter has enough trouble with "romance", let alone the more specific "workplace romance".

  8. FUD by EnglishTim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, not exactly FUD, but certainly wilfully misinterpretation.

    If you read the linked-to guide, it is primarily talking about situations in which an employee of the foundation has a relationship with someone who is a beneficiary, or potential beneficiary of the foundation.

    Remember that a large part of the foundation's work is to give other organisations money. Obviously they need to ensure that conflicts of interest are known about and that people aren't using their influence to get money passed on to their loved ones. In their position, it would be madness not to have a policy like that, and I'm sure most similar organisations have something similar.

    The document is mainly about relationships with people external to the company, but there is a small section about coworker romances. That section makes it quite clear that disclosure of office romances is only encouraged in situations where a conflict of interest could be a problem. The guideline is really very reasonable:

    When deciding what kind of relationships should be disclosed, consider the situation from the perspective of an outsider and whether the relationship is of such a nature that it could raise an allegation of an apparent or actual conflict of interest, and then err on the side of transparency, as disclosure helps to alleviate or avoid future misunderstandings.

    I assume then they would be talking about relationships where for instance the career advancement of one partner would be decided by the other partner in the relationship.

    Nowhere in the document does it seek to discourage such workplace relationships.

    The poster is just trying to whip up a bit of anti-Gates feeling out of thin air.

    Nothing to see here, move along!

  9. Personally by lonesome+phreak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I shun from workplace relationships. Mainly because I don't want the people I work with to know a damn thing about my personal life...because I work in the Bible Belt at a large comapny. I am afraid of some girl telling her co-workers how I drink alot, enjoy "dark" music, how most of my books on my shelf are about the occult, and my other habits...I sorta have to lead a double life because I'm afraid of the backlash.

    But I don't have too much trouble finding women outside of work (at least for a semi-random hookup), so I'm not looking too hard. I really don't like the whole "dating" scene, which reminds me of a drawn-out pay-per-view drain on my money with little guarentee of anything besides being treated like a chump.

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    1. Re:Personally by MikeTheMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Joe? Is that you? I swear, if it is, you're totally fired tomorrow.