Things To Download

I've taken the liberty of combining together a number of different submissions we've received. First off, Network Magic recently came out with a new version of their software (tour on link). It's Windows-based primarily, but having tested it out on Mac/Linux/Windows-mixed network, it's worth checking out. Another individual pointed out that SourceForge Enterprise is now a 15 seat free download; you can also grab the ISO in Torrent form. (SourceForge is made by the other arm of the company that owns Slashdot, VA Software). Lastly, a couple of folks seem to have rediscovered the joy of Audioscrobbler and sharing the stuff via last.fm. Fun stuff.

Comments

sourceforge?

[doti]

bleargh!

trac is much better. way cleaner and simpler interface, and _excelent_ integration with subversion.
also, it's free.

http://trac.edgewall.com/

Re:sourceforge?

[Super Dave Osbourne]

I agree, I wouldn't use anything else but TRAC, and nobody is going to try and upsell me when I use it. One thing that bothers me about posts like this one is I get the feeling it isn't just about what is available, but also someone has a vested interest in seeing this stuff pushed on the /. community.

Re:sourceforge?

[Blakey Rat]

Given, I haven't tried Sourceforge, but Trac is a HUGE pain to install. Mega-huge. In that the odds your server already has the dependencies taken care of are pretty much 0%. If I recall, it takes 4 different libraries (which have to be EXACT VERSIONS) or it won't do nothing.

They really need to streamline the installation so the standard (say) Dreamhost domain can run it before they can take over a lot of this market.

New Amanda (backup software) release download

[amanda-backup]

I would also recommend checking out the packaged Amanda backup software at:

http://www.zmanda.com/downloads.html

Sourceforge

[Umbral Blot]

Here's something I never got: why isn't sourceforge free and open source itself? It seems like it should be.

Re:Sourceforge

[tcopeland]

A fork of SourceForge - GForge - is indeed free and open source. It's a bit painful to set up, but there are commercial support options. And there are lots of sites out there that are using it...

Better for Slashdot.

[George Beech]

If you are as bored at work as I and havn't looked over the Top 100 Security Tools your time will be much better spent with those downloads than these.

o/t: Is this a porly concieved Slashvertisement???

Can you say more Non-Free than cheap beer?

[hackel]

Um...and just WHY would anyone be interested in downloading any of this non-free garbage? Especially Sourceforge. That was one shameful decision. One shouldn't even consider using it over free projects like Savane, GForge, or as someone already mentioned, Trac.

This is Slashdot, after all, did we forget?

Okay, sorry, Last.fm is kind of free, but still they need to restore the ability to play an mp3 stream with the player of your choice, not just their clunky custom software.

Hamachi

[CoolVibe]

Seriously, you guys should give Hamachi a try. You can build LAN's over the internet with it in a reasonably secure manner. Great for multiplayer games. Also comes in a yummy Linux flavour.

Re:Network Magic?

[Com2Kid]

Windows XP could make it WORK.

Windows XP has horrible networking. If you are on Domain, you get to offload the pain to a domain admin (unless you ARE the domain admin...) but for workgroups, the suffering is all yours.

Right now I have a network with the following characteristics:

• Three machines
• All machines have the same workgroup name and different IP addresses
• All machines plugged in to the same hub.
• All machines have a "shared items" folder that has been clicked on at listed as shared.
• All machines have File Sharing enabled

The current situation is this:

Machine A can see Machine B, and can look at, upload to, and download from B's folders.

Machine B CANNOT see Machine A at all.

Machine B can see Machine C.

Machine A can see Machine C.

Machine C cannot see ANY machine.

Another form:

A-->B

B-->C

A-->C ....

So to get a file from A to B or from B to A is easy, go to A, copy to or from B.

Getting a file to C is also easy, just go to A or B and put the file on or take the file off of C.

So technically I can "do" any possible transfer.

Damned if it isn't STUPID and MESSED UP though.

Oh and don't even go to printer sharing. The original idea was to have A act as a print server for B and C. Of course nobody can actually see A, so that didn't really go over that well.

Mind you I have NEVER seen a Windows network setup as eloquently as a *nix network. On *nix, I just go to any machine and lo and behold, I can see every other machine on the network, use any printer, and if I login to multiple machines at the same time (most often using SSH) any changes I make to a file in my home directory on machine A is almost instantly transferred to ALL other machines that I am logged on to. This is incredibly convenient for testing network client/server apps.

Windows, in comparison, has this entire synch on login/logoff thing going on, and the login process can take upwards of 2-3 minutes per machine! (Depending on the stupidity of how the domain was setup, some domains work better than others...)

Now when it comes to network printing, Windows domains have got *nix beat.

"Well what you do on *nix is you memorize the printers magic number, no, there is no searching GUI listing of printers setup, then you drop to the command line and pipe the file you want to print to the printer."

Okay....

Yes, I have seen *nix networks setup better than that, but I have encountered that level of stupidity too many times. Thankfully I have never needed to print a file with graphics in it (or any file that is not in plain text) on such a network!

In conclusion, we, Computer Scientists, are complete and utter idiots who cannot program a decent system for the life of us.

Something so simple, so very very simple....

What the heck is wrong with us? It should NOT be complicated. I have had times where, when on a LAN, it was faster to BURN A CDR than to try and get networking up and running. Some times networking works, some times it doesn't. When it does, great, when it doesn't, oh well.

Computers should not be non-deterministic.

I really love those situations when two identical machines in identical states have the same operations applied to them in the same order, and two different results end up happening. That is cute folks, really cute[1].

[1]By cute I mean "Somebody should be pounded in the head with a sledgehammer".

Re:What the heck

[Mitchell Mebane]

Indeed. There are two things I would like to see added to Windows XP's wireless networking tools, and "Network Magic" seems to do neither:

1) Have a separate TCP/IP configuration for each network (I hear this will be added in Vista. Blah.)
2) Manually choose which AP I wish to connect to, if there are more than one around.

Re:Say it ain't so Joe!

[joe 155]

it ain't so.