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The Plot To Hijack Your Hard Drive

An anonymous reader writes Business Week Online examines the business practices of spammers and pop-up advertisers, using much-maligned Direct Revenue as an example case. The article discusses the history of the company, their rocky road through good and bad times, and what they're willing to to get your eyes on their ads." From the article: "Among Direct Revenue's alumni, pride over technical cunning mingles with regret for exasperating so many computer users. After waffling on the issue during a long interview, one former Dark Arts wizard sighs and sums up his version of the company credo with an elegiac observation by abolitionist Frederick Douglass: 'Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them.'"

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  1. Re:Who buys this stuff? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your post advocates a

    ( ) technical ( ) legislative (x) market-based ( ) vigilante

    approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

    ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
    ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
    ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
    ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
    ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    ( ) Users of email will not put up with it
    ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
    ( ) The police will not put up with it
    ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
    (x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
    ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

    Specifically, your plan fails to account for

    ( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
    (x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
    ( ) Open relays in foreign countries
    ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
    ( ) Asshats
    ( ) Jurisdictional problems
    ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
    ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
    ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
    ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
    ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
    ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
    ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
    ( ) Extreme profitability of spam
    ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
    ( ) Technically illiterate politicians
    ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
    ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
    ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
    ( ) Outlook

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    (x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
    ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
    ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
    ( ) Blacklists suck
    ( ) Whitelists suck
    ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
    ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    ( ) Sending email should be free
    ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
    ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
    ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
    ( ) I don't want the government reading my email
    ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!

  2. Re:Naive by ElectricOkra · · Score: 1, Funny

    yep... otherwise we would have no mad scientists...

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  3. Re:Naive by bunions · · Score: 5, Funny

    As with all other things, the answer to your quandry has already been answered in a Simpsons episode.

    Critic: "How do they sleep at night?"

    McBain: "On top of a huge pile of money, with many beautiful women."

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  4. Re:Who buys this stuff? by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

    The problem in this topic is the answer to Stephen Hawking's question in one of the previous topics: it is all about demographics. The more people there are on this planet, the more likely we are to have extremely smart people, who will push us to the stars, and the more likely we are to have extremely dumb people, who will buy anything from a popup ad.

  5. Re:Nasty Products by SirKron · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got a pop-up for some spyware removal software. Would you like the link?

  6. Re:Here's how to stop it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you feel passionately about this, post your mailing address. For some reason I've gotten the message that people don't value their e-mail as highly as snail mail.

    (TWAJS)

  7. Re:Who buys this stuff? by SolarCanine · · Score: 3, Funny

    now they just need to figure out the happy part and their job is complete.

    Which makes the War on Drugs so much harder to understand...

  8. Re:This will NEVER happen by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Funny
    People need to stop posting on /. that people need to stop posting on slashdot that people need to learn to not click on spam and pop-up advertising.


    Sorry, couldn't resist. Now, to keep things a little bit on topic, I generally agree with you about silly consumers being slow to learn their lesson, though it still surprises me how many people lack sense.

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  9. Re:Here's how to REALLY stop it... by oik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is HothRobbingBoobies a subtle Star Wars reference or do I simply need more coffee? :)

  10. Re:Who buys this stuff? by quokkapox · · Score: 2, Funny
    The government very clearly saw what happens when you have a well educated youth during the 60's. The fact that public education has been on the decline since those days is no accident.

    Your post suggests a conspiracy theory which is

    (x) paranoid
    ( ) delusional
    (x) impossible to confirm
    (x) impossible to refute

    Specifically, your theory fails to account for

    (x) Stupidity of the general population
    (x) Lack of a centrally controlling authority for conspiracies
    (x) Failure to mention the Illuminati
    (x) Facts can be explained without need for a real conspiracy
    (x) Stupidity of the politicians
    ( ) Asshats

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    (x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been proven
    (x) That's what they WANT us to think

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (x) Sorry dude, you're batshit crazy
    ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
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