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A Magnetic Memory Alternative to Hard Disk

Dr Occult writes "Finally, a magnetic memory chip has been manufactured in volume and released by the U.S. company Freescale. Christened MRAM (magnetoresistive random-access memory),this chip will hold information even after power has been switched off. From the BBC news article: 'Unlike flash memory, which also can keep data without power, Mram has faster read and write speeds and does not degrade over time,' and 'MRAM chips could one day be used in PCs to store an operating system, allowing computers to start up faster when switched on.'"

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  1. Freescale's PR by austinpoet · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Freescale's PR by Phreakiture · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe that this is an example of coming full circle

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  2. NOT a hard drive alternative by dsginter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MRAM is *not* a hard drive alternative because it needs to be fabricated with traditional chip lithography. Also, MRAM cells are very large, even compared with flash memory.

    It would be extremely expensive to create an "MRAM hard drive". This is just more pump and dump for Freescale daytraders.

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    1. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by TransEurope · · Score: 5, Informative

      _Today_ they are larger. But tomorrow Freescale

      plans to shrink their new chips (29nm) under the

      scales of the future standard 6T-SRAMs (still 45nm).

      http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/75243

    2. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by rwven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seeing as everything in this industry gets cheaper, faster, smaller and all around better with time, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this ends up being a widely used alternative to flash memory. It may take years, but what doesn't... There has been news of this MRAM floating around for about 5 years now (maybe more?)...it's just finally been produced in force.

    3. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by IAmTheDave · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't be so cynical - all progress starts with a product like this. Time will see memory capacity become denser, physical space requirements smaller, etc.

      Two years ago 40G flash (hell, my 4G USB drive) would have been laughed at. Progress will continue unabated, so let's let MRAM get its foot in the door, and see where it is in a year or two. RAM sans power requirements is a nice place to be.

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    4. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by harrkev · · Score: 3, Informative
      It would be extremely expensive to create an "MRAM hard drive". This is just more pump and dump for Freescale daytraders.

      Bzzzzt. Wrong. Thank you for playing.

      OK. You are half-right. It would be expensive to crate an "MRAM hard drive." So, getting 20 gigs of MRAM would cost a small fortune. But this is NOT a "pump-n-dump." This is really cool stuff. I can easily imagine some embedded systems that could really use this stuff. This is non-volatile system memory. The problem with FLASH and EEPROM memory is that the cells wear out after a lot of writing (somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 to 1,000,000 write cycles will give you trouble). For some applications, this is not enough, so you have to resort to battery-backed SRAM. Now there is at least another option.

      • Do you need to store data without having a constant battery backup?
      • Do you need to store a relatively small amount?
      • Will the data be changing rapidly enough to kill a FLASH in short order?
      • Would a hard drive be too big or too power hungry?
      If you answered "yes" to all those questions, MRAM might be for you:

      Although, really, this seems to solve the exact same problem as Phase-Change RAM.
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    5. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The key isn't even speed, capacity or size ... it's economics. To be a hard drive replacement, it needs to be as cheap as hard drives. Your 4GB USB drive may be 'cheap' in your mind, but if it were as cheap as any current PATA or SATA hard drive, it would have cost $4, not $40-80 ... IOW, your USB drive is at least 10x and as much as 20x more expensive than a hard drive. For MRAM to become a viable replacement for HDDs, it has to become as cheap as HDDs.

      Only time will tell if the economies of scale kick in and make this economically viable.

    6. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by theStorminMormon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You seem to be trapped in the current (already outdated?) paradigm of hard drive usage. If I were to put together a high-end machine right now I would certainly throw in at least 2 hard drives. A very small 10RPM drive for the OS, programs, and a much larger (but probably slower) drive for storing all my files.

      If you RTFA you'll notice that that's exactly what they mention: using the MRAM to run the OS. So, yeah, it may not work to replace your entire hard drive, but it makes a lot of sense to split hard drive usage between the files you are going to be booting from, accessing constantly, and files you only access when you have a specific need to.

      Sure, 4MB is still to small to run an OS on (yeah yeah, except linux, and that's great) - but if you're goal is to get large enough to have a bootable OS and NOT to replace an entire hard drive (especially since hard drive capacity is getting cheaper and cheaper) then I think you start to see the potential of this technology.

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    7. Re:NOT a hard drive alternative by Intron · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What wearout? Imagine that you start doing writes continuously spread over a 40GB flash drive for 5-years (typical high-end HD warranty period). How many times will you write to any given sector assume that you have a good load leveling algorithm?

      Assume 15 MB/s write. 40 GB will take about 45 mins. So in 5 years, you will only write each block 175,200 times which is within the 1,000,000 writes spec for flash. And this assumes that you do no reads at all.

      Wearout is a myth with modern flash filesystem software.

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  3. Price? by bookemdano63 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It will be a while before they get their $25 / 4 megabit wholesale price to anywhere close to reasonable.
    http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB11524917130 4801944-v71_ITCad7JIwzqJZ_nfN_pacDg_20060809.html? mod=tff_main_tff_top

    1. Re:Price? by cyfer2000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The major advantage of MRAM is speed. They are extreme high speed nonvolatile RAM, even faster than DRAM. So if you need such a thing, you need to pay for it. Also, the current structure of MRAM is pretty complicated. It is made of multilayers of different metals. Depositing different metals onto silicon wafer is still something nasty though people have been depositing Aluminium and Copper for some time. There are some groups working on magnetic semiconductors, so they use common fabrication method to produce MRAM. So the price of MRAM can drop dramatically if these groups succeed. However, so far, the magnetic semiconductors are even expensive than the multilayer metals structure.

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    2. Re:Price? by barawn · · Score: 3, Informative

      That is a reasonable price. Right now, MRAM replaces battery-backed SRAM: like the ZEROPOWER series from ST Microelectronics, and a 4-Mbit version (M48Z512A) costs $45 in quantity, and the MRAM chip won't take up huge real estate with a gigantic DIP package.

      At $25 in quantity for a 4-Mbit chip, it's about a factor of 5 higher than conventional SRAM. I'd guess that a factor of 5 in cost reduction isn't crazy to expect.

      Too bad this chip didn't come out say, five to ten years ago - otherwise you likely would've been seeing it in video game cartridges for a while now.

  4. Everything old is new again by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Funny
    Mram chips could one day be used in PCs to store an operating system, allowing computers to start up faster when switched on.

    I predict the Commodore 64 will rise again, although this time, it will be 64 Gig!

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  5. Is bootup time really that big of an issue? by Skynet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    XP boots in about a minute, and Linux never needs to be rebooted. :)

    What other applications could this have besides boot time?

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    1. Re:Is bootup time really that big of an issue? by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

      Instapr0n(tm)

    2. Re:Is bootup time really that big of an issue? by MrNemesis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Personally, I don't give a rats arse about bootup time.

      What I do want, however, is good rewritable storage with NO MOVING PARTS! It'll make things like under-the-TV HTPC's much, much more feasible - you have a small ~10GB boot drive for the core OS components, and a big ol' hard drive that spends much of it's time spun down. On top of that, you could have almost instant resume from hibernate

      Corporate users would also gain colossal benefits; I know that by far the most common failure I see at work is a dead or dying hard drive, which are a pain to replace in OEM machines which tend to be built so that only people with advanvced degrees it WTF Ergonomics and How To Wire Like A Spider On Drugs can open them. Replace that with a solid state unit with no moving parts and the problem is more or less instantly solved. Heck, depending on its overall reliabilty we might even be able to dump things like RAID in the mid to long term.

      Does anyone have any non-fluff stuff about wha power consumption, max transfer and the like is? Since it's MRAM I expect that it'll only need to use power when reading or writing to disc, right? Hence I'd expect power usage to be practically zero - another huge boon for corporate users. Colossal possible bandwidth and low latency are the icing on the cake.

      Disclaimer: I know little about MRAM other than what I've read in fluff pieces before. Time to visit Wikipedia...

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  6. Re:more vaporware by TransEurope · · Score: 4, Informative

    First: freescale aims on the usage of MRAM in embeddet devices and microcontrollers. There will be no MRAM-Harddisk next month in the shops. 2nd: There is not only Freescale. Micromem will produce MRAM-Chips for the Aerospace industry. And IBM/Infineon already have an 16-MBit-MRAM-Chip since last year. There are also Renesas/Toshiba in the race. It's a completely new tech, you heard about years ago, when the first theories about mram came from the labs. But such a thing needs everytime many years to go to the serial production lines.

  7. Old news by dpaton.net · · Score: 4, Informative

    Freescale's MRAM technology isn't all that new...it's an old Motorola technology that they kept running with when they were spun off. It's taken them a few years to get going again, but it's already been done for a while.

    That said, MRAM ain't a HD replacement yet. No one outside the aerospace industry is using it for storage right now that I'm aware of, and even if someone was, making a large enough FRAM based drive with 4Mb chips is HARD. 2 chips for every MB. 2048 chips for every GB. a 500GB FRAM disk would require 1,024,000 of these chips, requiring nearly 2,500 sqft of PCB space, and more power than a pile of overclocked P4s (~9mA * 3.3V * 1,024,000 chips = 30.4128kW at IDLE). Even if someone could build that, it'd be farking huge, run inconcievably hot, be incredibly power hungry, and sell for an obscenely expensive price, even for the most extr33m gadget hunters.

    Wait for 32 and 64Mb chips. Then we'll talk.

    Right now I'm too busy working with a serial FRAM from Ramtron to write more.

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  8. TV not PC by ds_job · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't want this in my PC to boot my O/S quicker. I want this in my TV / Video / STB / whatever so that I can turn them off at night and not have to wait for ages for them to be reinitialised / scan for frequencies / whatever they actually do when they are turned on. It would also make me not have to reprogram my favourites and display settings, which currently do not survive a power cycle. Get these into modern A/V technology and we can finally do away with the necessity of standby just to speed up watching the TV in the morning.

  9. Article misses the point almost completely... by Gadzinka · · Score: 4, Informative
    I am not really suprised, that no one bothered to google for MRAM, not even tried to look it up in WP. What's missing in the article and most of the comments is that MRAM is one of those holy grails that most of the industry is chasing, because it promises great returns on investment. Basically MRAM (theoretically) can be:
    • as fast as SRAM (i.e. cache in your processor)
    • as small (i.e. as hight density) as DRAM; single MRAM memory cell is two magnets instead of two conductors of capacitor in DRAM, but the (theoretical) size is of the same order of magnitude
    • non-volatile like Flash, but with random access and orders of magnitude faster, w/o "write penalty" and w/o erase/write cycles limit
    • much less energy-hungry than SRAM, DRAM and Flash while working; when not working it can keep information at least as well as Flash
    It's in development since the eighties and it will take time before we "get there" but it is possible, that one day MRAM could replace cache, main memory and memory cards in our computers.

    When? I have no idea, but AFAIR transistors didn't get from prototype to 65nm in a decade. Hopefully engineergs and managers in some semiconductor companies have longer attention span than an avarage slashdot reader.

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  10. Not likely to replace RAM by tygerstripes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be wonderful as a RAM replacement IF it scaled up enough. Trouble is, RAM has been a necessary computer component for years, so it was inevitable that it would get cheaper & smaller as the necessary manufacturing processes were refined.

    This has an awfully long way to come, so it's not going to be adopted wide-scale as a RAM replacement in PCs - at least not straight away. How long would it take the production of this stuff to get up to a competitive scale?

    It might work its way in eventually:

    1. Small MRAM chips used in phones, PDAs, A/V devices to store state, speeding up boot-time.
    2. Pervades handheld-electronics market - becomes ubiquitous enough to scale up and improve manufacturing processes
    3. Eventually finds some server-use to improve operation (maybe mirroring RAM periodically to recover quickly from crash, whatever)
    4. Finally works its way onto desktop motherboards
    (5. Profit?)

    Seriously though, this is hardly going to make waves for some time.

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  11. Re:Vaporware by 1stpreacher · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't get the vaporware argument here... They're being SOLD... But aside from that, I see MANY uses for this - first in cell phones, according to this "In February of 2006, Toshiba and NEC announced a 16 megabit MRAM chip with a new "power-forking" design. It achieves a transfer rate of 200 MB/s, with a 34 ns cycle time - the best performance of any MRAM chip. It also boasts the smallest physical size in its class -- 78.5 square millimeters..."


    so we're looking at 'about' 3 inches for 16meg (in this case) ... I'd LOVE my phone to be able to use it's memory more quickly, and to be able to sync more quickly with my pc. And that's just the first thing I could think of...

  12. Slow Bubbles by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been hearing about these kinds of devices since "bubble memory.

    Why can't I get a motherboard with 500MB Flash for storing an image of system memory exactly after the OS is loaded and initialized, that is blitted over to RAM and then tweaked (system clock, network counters, etc) in a few milliseconds? All the "loading" from storage to RAM includes minutes of computation like a second "compilation" that's practically identical every time I start the machine. How much computing power is wasted on that redundant exercise every day, around the world? I'd like to reinit only when the startup becomes corrupt, which a "known good" ROM instance could avoid better than the current chaotic process.

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    1. Re:Slow Bubbles by fdrebin · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Why can't I get a motherboard with 500MB Flash for storing an image of system memory exactly after the OS is loaded and initialized, that is blitted over to RAM and then tweaked (system clock, network counters, etc) in a few milliseconds? All the "loading" from storage to RAM includes minutes of computation like a second "compilation" that's practically identical every time I start the machine. How much computing power is wasted on that redundant exercise every day, around the world? I'd like to reinit only when the startup becomes corrupt, which a "known good" ROM instance could avoid better than the current chaotic process.

      Actually a simple alternative is quite feasible today - after a clean boot, write a "hibernate" image. At boot time, have the selection of the hibernate image as a boot option. 5 second boots!

      Not as good as your suggestion, but $cheaper.

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  13. Great hard drive companion by egarland · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hard drive controlers could use this type of memory for write caching without risking losing data. This is huge for RAID controlers since they could now lose their bulky batery packs and time limits on cached data integrity. This also has nice implications for write buffering in hard drive controlers since it could be done without the OS even knowing or caring. It would allow for out-of-order writes on drives where the controler decides what gets written first and even if it gets written at all without risking data integrity.

    This is also huge for tiny devices that need very little local storage but do need it. Tiny linux boxes with 64MB MRam hard drives could be quite useful.

    If we make mram visible to filesystems, they could decide to store their core data structures, directories, and inodes in mram space so that access to the start of each file could require only 1 drive seek.

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  14. Re:Back to the past.... by WebCowboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    MRAM is in some ways a modern take on 1960's era "Core Memory" technology. There are similarities between both, however core memory was not semiconductor-based--it was a plane of copper wires woven together with little ferrite rings strung on where wires intersected. As such is is pretty low density: 16 Kbit of core memory took up 250 cm^2 of area. With MRAM the method of operation is the same and it also involves reversing polarity of magnetic fields. However there are no ferrite cores; MRAM consists of a sandwich of conductor grids around memory cells. Like with core memory an entire row of a grid can be written to in one operation--you charge one "row" line on the write grid and all the columns you want to flip and they all change at once.

    Reading MRAM is simpler than core memory becasue core memory had no read operation--it had "flip to zero" and "flip to one" and a "sense" line--the sense line would emit a pulse if a core element changed state. To read core memory, you had to do a "flip to zero" and watch the sense line--if it pulsed then a one was in the cell and you had to do a "flip to one" to restore it. If there was no pulse then it was already zero. With MRAM reading simply involves measuring the resistance of the insulating layer of a memory cell (the insulating material has the property where resistance increases as the magnetic field passing through it increases). IIRC there is nothing preventing parallel reads either. MRAMs are also much denser--megabits can fit in 0.25 cm^2

    The "MRAM hard drive" thing may be hyperbole right now, but it looks like development of MRAM rechnology is significantly outpacing Moores Law. MRAM is also potentially as fast as SRAM and as dense as SDRAM--without the need for refresh circuitry so designs can be greatly simplified. Further downsizing could make it a good flash replacement. The biggest hurdle could be reduction...

  15. Found the datasheet... by jcr · · Score: 4, Informative
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  16. Unfortunately by Flying+pig · · Score: 3, Informative

    It lost its data the moment you read it if the read/modify/write circuitry failed. Anyone remember the PDP-8, whose accumulator cleared when you read it, presumably so if it was implemented in core, there would not be a wasted rewrite cycle if you didn't need the accumulator data again? Ah, the fun of early machines...and you could even use them in IBMs, which is more than you can do with a P4.

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  17. Re:Flash FS. Hm. How 'bout something actually used by julesh · · Score: 3, Informative

    How much of a myth is it when you use least common denominator, portable file systems like FAT?

    A decent flash disk will have write-spreading as a layer on top of the filesystem, so it will remap sectors on the fly to avoid wearout.