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AMD Launches Counterstrike Against Core 2 Duo

DigitalDame2 writes to mention a PC Magazine article about the AMD 4x4 enthusiast platform, which is meant to counter Core 2 Duo. The article observes that AMD is now facing many of the same business practices it used in its war against Intel. From the article: "While imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, improvement can often be a slap in the face. Intel's C2D was designed with both low power and performance per watt in mind, two key design metrics that helped AMD cut into Intel's market share with the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2. And, as preliminary numbers have indicated and final performance reviews now show, the C2D has learned its lesson well: its performance now tops AMD's Athlon 64 architecture by a substantial margin."

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  1. Re:4X4 is more a marketing ploy than anything else by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 4, Informative

    remember that AMD is slashing the prices of several X2 processors by about 50%, hence the price differential is mostly only the mobo differential, which I don't think will be that much...

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  2. Re:umm? comparison to Intel please... by treeves · · Score: 2, Informative
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  3. Re:Performance number? by TheSunborn · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think they mean power, as in Watt usage. Currently they just rate the maximum usage which is not really that usefull.

  4. Re:It's about Goddamn time! by ak3ldama · · Score: 1, Informative

    AMD Launches Counterstrike Against Core 2 Duo We need corporate wars to thin things out. Fuck'n A! The Governments of the World are just too incompetent! It's obvious that the MBAs of the World need to unite and show these Bozoes how to fuck'n do it! Yes siree, profit above all else! Fuck these Goddman bald monkeys! Hey, I'm not done yet! Put those fucking jackets away!!! Hey!!! Mmmmmmmm!mM!M!M!M Put in straight jacket and sent to a Ph.D business program.

    That is funny, not flamebait. Mod Parent up. I would but I have no points! Is there no justice in the world?

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  5. Re:4X4 is more a marketing ploy than anything else by Azarael · · Score: 3, Informative
    [Blockquote]Mounted on each socket will be an AMD dual-core processor (not necessarily an AMD Athlon64 X2, according to an AMD representative)(Emphasis Mine), for a total of four cores.[/blockquote]


    The article says otherwise.

  6. Re:Ah, but you can fudge the number of cores... by Bitmanhome · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not at all. AMD's cores have unique caches per core, plus they share the same memory bus. However, AMD put some effort into the crossbar. While Intel's early multicore offerings were essentially the same, there was no crossbar, so bus contention was a little worse.

    The Core 2 series now has shared L2.

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  7. Re:This is just dual dual-core by ricera10 · · Score: 2, Informative

    They're doing it with upcoming Mac Pro from Apple. Two Woodcrest based processors in the same computer in the high-end configuration.

  8. Re:Intel leading with heat and watts by minion · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sorry if my post was too vague earlier.
     
    The boxes we were using were Dual Xeon 2.8GHz servers, 4G of DDR RAM, and 4 x 73G 15K SCSI disks in a 0+1 RAID array. We had 3 of those servers running like that.
     
    The new Dual Opteron server is 2 x model 252s, with 8G of DDR RAM (4G per proc), using node-interleaving memory configuration, with 6 x 73G 15K SCSI disks in a RAID 0+1 array, with 2 x 73G 10K SCSI disks mirrored for binlogs.
     
      Our application for MySQL is an ASP app, with each customer having their own database. So, there was no replication between the servers, each server had a unique data set specific to that client.
     
    The new setup is able to handle all of those databases on just the one server.
     
      The datasets combined, on disk, consume slightly more than 70G of data. So the databases are quite large, and we are not storing BLOBs in any of the tables.
     
    I don't claim to be the best hardware guy out there, but I do keep a fairly close eye on my datacenter, and I can tell you that there was a noticable difference in power usage and heat output from that rack when we switched to the AMD system.

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  9. Re:Wake me up when it's really a 4x4. by Dare+nMc · · Score: 2, Informative

    >actually made a "four by four" machine, instead of just making up a nonsense term
    I completely agree with your post. but I will point out a 4x4 pickup has 4 driving wheels out of 4 wheels, and a 2x4 has 2 driving wheels out of 4.
    so a 4x4 processor (uses a stupid analolgy but..) has room for 4 cores, all 4 supplied. so the 2x4 would be a dual core in one slot, or 2 single cores thus room for 4 "cores" but only 2 supplied thus 2x4. the 8x8 thus the first 8 describes the number of "cores", the second 8 would describe a board having room for 8 "cores."