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Microsoft COO Warns Google Away From Corp Search

Forbes is reporting on comments made by Microsoft COO Kevin Turner, concerning the corporate search business. At a company conference in Boston, Turner referred to the enterprise search business as 'our house', and warned Google to stay out. From the article: "Those people are not going to be allowed to take food off our plate, because that is what they are intending to do ... Enterprise search is our business, it's our house and Google is not going to take that business"

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  1. Classic late-stage empire behavior by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Companies, like countries, tend to talk the toughest when they're in trouble. Seeing their domains as God-given rights instead of something they had to work for, making threats they can't back up, getting into fights with much smaller competitors that it seems like they should be able to win easily but somehow can't ... Yep.

    If I were a Microsoft stockholder or employee, I'd be very worried right now.

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    1. Re:Classic late-stage empire behavior by MooseByte · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "And when MS falls, who do people turn to?"

      Any number of innovative solutions that will flourish freely in a far more open market. MS will not simply disappear overnight, as you seem to imply. It's in the midst of a long slide into being just another player, and one with a crappy reputation (well earned) at that. As that curve descends, the solution curve from other vendors continues to rise.

      An additional sign of MS's slide beneath the waters is the current crop of college new-grads. All the ones I speak with (recent hires, during interviews, socially etc.) view Microsoft as a plague. Couple that with the observation higher up of "falling empires scream their loudest", plus general consumer sentiment of "MS sucks" (among even my non-techie friends and relatives), and there's not much that can be done. MS has lost mindshare, and they are technically not capable of turning their ship around.

  2. google already dominates by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Enterprise search is our business, it's our house and Google is not going to take that business

    Google dominates over MSN in consumer search. Does this guy honestly think they won't dominate Microsoft in Enterprise search? Why not back up his statement with a good reason why Google won't take MS to the woodshed on this one?

  3. Re:Wow, NEWS! by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I agree about Microsoft's arrogance in general, in this case it's just locker room talk:

    "We be bad. Yeah!"

    Pumpin' up the team. You'll hear its like at every stupid sales meeting at every stupid company in the world. Some of 'em even sing stupid fight songs. It's non news about a non event.

    KFG

  4. Re:that's great, but why? by ClamIAm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    google products and servers really only even compete with a few microsoft ones,

    There are a couple of angles I see this whole "battle" from. One is that monopolies don't last forever, and MS needs to move into new markets so that they can survive after Windows + Office falters. Google is a big competitor in the areas of information services.

    The other is that Microsoft has traditionally made lots of money by tying products together so that competitors cannot interoperate on their platform. By "platform", I mean Windows, Windows Server, Exchange, Office, and so on. Google is a threat here, as many of their services simply need a web browser, bypassing the MS platform completely.

    Disregarding the two points above, Google probably still scares the hell out of Microsoft. Google is a much more chaotic force than MS, releasing weird new tools that are a by-product of allowing your coders to work on "fun" projects. They are also a much more agile company: MS relies on having Windows pre-installed at retail, as well as long-term licensing contracts. This strategy takes a few years to get the new products entrenched (see the uptake of new MS operating systems over time for a good example). Google can throw a new app up on their site any time they want.

  5. Re:Google doesn't stand a chance!!! by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IIS is gaining on Apache / SQL Server is catching up to Oracle / Windows growth is outpacing Unix, Linux

    don't make me fucking laugh.

    of all your list the only examples which are even remotely true, is in cases where MS has been able to leverage it's OS monopoly to stiffle competition.
    the only other way it's ever able to gain a foothold is to LOSE MONEY on a product eg. xbox. and they can't keep going into market losing money like that, even MS's bank account has it's limits.

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  6. Re:Google doesn't stand a chance!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You may very well be right. In fact, I even hope you are because I recently started working at Microsoft.

    However, there is one thing that is different in this case. It was only recently that Microsoft lost its place as the most desirable software company to work for. Maybe it's still second best, and definitely it's still close to the top, but now, some other company is now the holy grail for the ambitious recent computer science graduate. I applied for Google and wasn't even given a phone interview.

    Were any of the failed Microsoft competitors on your list anywhere close to being equal (or greater than) Microsoft on the smart kid's job wishlist? Were any of the other companies capable of stealing away the best and the brightest from Microsoft?

    Someone could argue that just having the best/smartest employees won't ensure success, but I don't think there has ever been a time in Microsoft's history where they have had to compete with a company higher than them on the hiring pecking order.

    In my opinion, that's the big difference between Microsoft's past competitors and Google.

    Microsoft isn't going down any time soon (ever?), but this new challenge may be its hardest yet. Google's got search down really well, and its employees are at least as talented, if not more.

  7. I like a bit of MS bashing... by PinkyDead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... as much as the next person, but I think it's unfair from reading TFA to call arrogant on them.

    These quotes come from a company conference - and this guy is just giving a 'rallying the troops' type speech. He's not telling Google to keep out of Enterprise searches, he's telling his own staff that they are going to (try to) keep Google out of that market (good luck!). There's a big difference.

    You can be sure that at a Google company conference, Turner's counterpart is telling their staff that Enterprise searches are their right and they are going to take them from MS.

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