Slashback: SGI, Exploding Dell, Gizmo
Slashback tonight brings some clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories including: the possibility of selling OpenGL to save SGI, a denial from Dell that it knew of the overheating battery problem, an update on the Skype competitor Gizmo, and a response from the Chinese folks that reverse-engineered the Skype protocol. Read on for details.
SGI's McKenna Considers sale of OpenGL. delire writes "The Computer Business Review has an article on McKenna's strategies to salvage the flailing SGI from bankruptcy ... one of which may include selling assets like OpenGL. As Gnome developer Christian Schaller aptly put it, 'I hope this gets picked up by a friendly entity, especially if there are some patents still attached to OpenGL.'"
Dell Denies It Knew of Overheating Battery Problem. Billosaur writes "A report from ConsumerAffairs.com staties that according to inside information, Dell knew about the overheating problem in its laptop batteries for years. According to the report, an un-named insider 'leaked scores of documents to CRN, a computer industry publication, that indicated Dell knew of a dangerous battery malfunction for two years before a shocking video of an exploding laptop forced the company to recall batteries for about 22,000 laptops.' This on top of Dell's warning about lower than expected second quarter profits may cause the company some problems on Wall Street."
Gizmo: free VoIP to landlines in 60 countries. KrispyGlider writes "The more-standards-compliant Skype competitor Gizmo has launched a promotion in a bid to rapidly grow its userbase: free VoIP-to-landline calls to 60 countries, and even to mobiles in many countries. There aren't too many onerous catches to the deal Gizmo was previously covered in a Slashdot article from 2005 where it was noted that the Gizmo network has interoperability with other SIP networks, unlike Skype. However, the new version, 2.0 also has the ability to directly log in to open-source Asterisk VoIP servers, so you don't even have to use Gizmo's VoIP network any more."
When is it Okay to Reverse Engineer? Charlie Paglee writes "Last week Slashdot covered a story about a team of engineers in China reverse engineering Skype. Reaction on Slashdot was largely negative and raised many questions: Just when is it okay to reverse engineer and then innovate? The Chinese team issued a statement clarifying their actions: 'The domain of P2P innovation is limitless. We are very honored to work side by side Skype to promote P2P technologies in the VOIP industry. Our team is composed of the most talented P2P engineers in the world. We are working day and night to build a superior quality P2P network.'"
Dell Denies It Knew of Overheating Battery Problem. Billosaur writes "A report from ConsumerAffairs.com staties that according to inside information, Dell knew about the overheating problem in its laptop batteries for years. According to the report, an un-named insider 'leaked scores of documents to CRN, a computer industry publication, that indicated Dell knew of a dangerous battery malfunction for two years before a shocking video of an exploding laptop forced the company to recall batteries for about 22,000 laptops.' This on top of Dell's warning about lower than expected second quarter profits may cause the company some problems on Wall Street."
Gizmo: free VoIP to landlines in 60 countries. KrispyGlider writes "The more-standards-compliant Skype competitor Gizmo has launched a promotion in a bid to rapidly grow its userbase: free VoIP-to-landline calls to 60 countries, and even to mobiles in many countries. There aren't too many onerous catches to the deal Gizmo was previously covered in a Slashdot article from 2005 where it was noted that the Gizmo network has interoperability with other SIP networks, unlike Skype. However, the new version, 2.0 also has the ability to directly log in to open-source Asterisk VoIP servers, so you don't even have to use Gizmo's VoIP network any more."
When is it Okay to Reverse Engineer? Charlie Paglee writes "Last week Slashdot covered a story about a team of engineers in China reverse engineering Skype. Reaction on Slashdot was largely negative and raised many questions: Just when is it okay to reverse engineer and then innovate? The Chinese team issued a statement clarifying their actions: 'The domain of P2P innovation is limitless. We are very honored to work side by side Skype to promote P2P technologies in the VOIP industry. Our team is composed of the most talented P2P engineers in the world. We are working day and night to build a superior quality P2P network.'"
PS tinkering with your gadget != masturbation DS
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Well since all the cool kids are doing it, guess I will go write one too.
I keep telling myself I'm not the desperate type.
(Can you imagine what would happen if Microsoft bought it? Does anyone seriously believe ANY implementation would be safe, MESA included?)
Failing that, Google must have some spare change. Hell, they could probably buy SGI for less than the value of the machines in SGI's inventory, which would seriously boost their server power.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
It looks like standard SIP.
I hope an entity like Microsoft doesn't end up buying rights to too much of OpenGL, and thus lock it up for years. It's a superb cross-platform language for development... pretty much all there is for high-end games or similar real-time rendering when you want to develop something open source. It would pretty much suck if no further standards could safely rely on a base of OpenGL/GLSL/GL* to attract an audience and technology base in the future. DirectX isn't bad on windows... but I'd hate for that to be all there is for upcoming years.
Still... perhaps a something new from the ashes could form a more lasting standard that's better than going through major-company approval process of the OpenGL ARB. Even if DirectX continues to be the basis of future graphics card development, new open-source standards can use the same hardware hooks for better ends. I can't imagine that the graphics card manufacturers wouldn't be interested in helping a new standard form if enough of the developer community had a hunger for newer cross-platform 3d graphics library. GLSL is very nice - but perhaps a better set of standard could be developed in conjunction with future hardware in mind.
Ryan Fenton (Who has been reading through the GLSL Orange book for the past few weeks)
In what alternate universe did Slashdot react badly to reverse engineering?
Reverse engineering meaning what FOSS groups do every day...meaning WINE, Gaim, Samba etc...? I am actually shocked. This is a very good thing - I'm not sure if the Chinese group plan to release source code, but hopefully if they can, then others can, and we'll end up with FOSS Skype programs.
But you make a good point. Isn't Stargate SG-1 on?
Reading about Dell and the exploding batteries reminds me of the story about Ford and its Firestone tyres (oh and Cadbury's and its recall of chocolates because of salmonella). In the latter two cases both companies knew about the problem yet nothing was done (or things were just glossed over by management) until the bad PR forced them to do something. However I'm sure it's bad PR to have to do a product recall at all as it starts making people wonder as to whether your other products have major faults too.
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In some parts of the world it's Saturday morning and the weather in England makes it too hot to sleep.
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Perhaps this has caused skype some problems. Oh well, it happens. Perhaps this has caused Skype users some issue with security. Well, if reverse engineering can break security,then that is what is called bad security. If they want to interface with Skype, that is as good wanting the messaging services to interface. If they want to block it, as much as we may not understand, i think that soveriegnty is something everyone can agree upon. After all, you do not give keys to your house to just anyone, or let just anyone put stuff on you lawn.
Reverse engineer, especially in software, is what is going to save this generation of computing technology. Can you imagine how much a PC would be if Dell did not have support MS 40% profit margin, if Dell were truly free to put whatever software it wished on the computer and charge for the privilege? This will happen when MS is forced to standardize, as is happening with the EU case, and a truly compatible WIndows runtime is present.
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Isn't Stargate SG-1 on?
at the risk of being modded -1 "putz".. sg1 has gone stale..with this recent season it seems like they just put season 1-8 into the vcr, hit rewind, then slapped a few new names and skins onto the goauld XD..
i'll tune back in in another 3 seasons when things start getting interesting again.
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Who among you is pathetic enough to post a comment on a slashback article on a Friday night?
:) I thought, "Finally an SGI product I'd buy!" but no, they're only selling stupid OpenGL.
Hey, I only came here because I thought SGI had come up with a Gizmo to make Dells explode
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Tyre is and was actually a city, one of the most important ones in the ancient Phoenician empire. Also, it still exists. It's in Lebanon, and probably getting bombed right about now.
Even if I assume your post was a joke and you knew that tyre is the British spelling of tire, you're still wrong.
I'm British so I use British spellings. We spell them tyres over here. Diction Nazi should also notice that sentences have capital letters at the start and so do proper nouns - eg Tyre and Carthage.
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Blah... Just call for what it is: chumbucket!
Actually, it's Saturday morning here already ... and I try to be as unproductive as possible on Saturday mornings. Hence this post :).
Who among you is pathetic enough to post a comment on a slashback article on a Friday night?
Those of us still at work, "being productive".
Even if it's decentralized though, it's not like the packets can't be intercepted... I don't think they encrypt the packets (but I could be wrong--and even if they did the NSA would be able to encrypt it). So if you're looking at general secured communication then I recommend meeting face to face.
Read my blog posts on usability.
...$3 a day for select area codes.
You mean $3 a month.
Looks like Gizmo is now doing RTP encryption in the latest versions. Check your preferences, under "Advanced".
If you go to Gizmo's website and read the fine print, it's not really all it seems to be. In order to make free calls, the other person has to be registered and active on Gizmo as well. It should read "free calls to other Gizmo user's numbers."
Kind of pointless if you have to make everyone you want to call register and use Gizmo.
They also use the Jabber protocol for the IM side of things.
Yep, that's what I meant. My bad, sorry. Guess I should learn to use the preview button. Thanks for the correction!
Read my blog posts on usability.
On the OS X client I don't see anything about encryption under the Advanced tab. I only just installed the client on my Windows Desktop (since my headset doesn't work with my MacBook), but maybe that client has the RPT encryption (since I think they updated it more recently).
Read my blog posts on usability.
I believe both my Linux client and OS X client have the option to encrypt RTP.
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That's the first thing I thought. Apple, I hope, will buy it if only to protect their quartz extreme investment. What would be the coolest thing would be for them to buy it, continue using as normal, and keep it open and free for anyone else that wanted to use it. The kudos from that would easily be worth the money they paid for it.
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Peer to peer is really a buzzword. It doesn't actually mean anything definite and skype's approach buys you little in the VOIP world apart from annoying some router administrators by usurping the internet's regular 'peer to peer' protocol, IP.
It's SIP. It's as decentralised as email is. Then again, skype's not really decentralised because if the developers of skype go belly up, that's the end of that. SIP depends on lots of independently run servers. Like jabber. It's just a protocol after all.
I don't think it is yet, but you don't actually have any evidence that skype is secure. It's a proprietary protocol. You have no way of knowing (apart from taking a company's word for it) whether someone who knows the protocol can eavesdrop on all your conversations.
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I find it a bit frustrating how closed minded people are being about this exploding laptop issue.
Yes, its definitly possible that the battery exploded due to overheating or overcharging caused by failure of its protection circuit. However, it is also possible that it suffered impact damage. (e.g. someone dropped the battery while changing it, or the laptop was dropped but survived.)
It is a bit of a pity everyone tends to ignore other likely causes simply because they enjoy talking down the same companies over and over.
You must be new around here...
IIRC, "peer to peer" has a definite meaning: the protocol is the same for both sides.
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another open source client out there that is way better for me. it also based on mozilla .. yay !
I'll admit, I'm not as big a fan as I was. I miss Jack...
Personally, I'd've just shut it down. Send Jack into retirement, Jackson to Atlantis, Carter to Area 51, and Teal'C back to the Jaffa. Wait a year and try to talk Richard Dean Anderson into an SG-1 movie.
well.. the biggest thing about sg1 s1 - 8 is they don't win because of technological superiority, but tactical superiority stemming from some habit of human nature.
Atlantis followed the same route.. where the interplay between the species hinges on differences in their propensities.
I'm not seeing that in 9-10.. im seeing tactical blunders a first grader could point out, blatant allusions to current politics.. in short.. its selling out and the writers are getting lazy.
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SGI doesn't have any valuable rights in OpenGL. The specification is a public document. The reference implementation is open source. You can't copyright an API (SCO and Microsoft have both tried and failed). There's a charge to use the OpenGL trademark in a closed-source implementation, and that's it.
SGI's higher level APIs, like Inventor and Performer, have little if any resale value.
I suspect that the problem is that the lithium-ion technology is inherently unstable and should not be put in consumer gear.
(contemplating the 2 Li-ion powered devices I usually carry)
The sooner CNT supercaps or fuel cells are available to provide this kind of energy density without having to worry about it blowing up, the better.
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The show is dead and gone...all that remains is the shell.
He is the one that brought it into greater attention in the gaming world. He has been releasing his engines with the GPL license. He likes to give back to the community, and that would be a big give-back.
I know about encryption and decryption. I took courses that explained how PGP and other such encryption algorithms worked. I've also had discussion about both with people in charge of researching how to break these encryption methods and those trying to find ways of better securing networks and finding better encryption techniques. I'm definitely not an expert on the matter, but I'm at least above the total layman level. I also know that just about any encrypted internet packet out there, the NSA has the ability to break if they want to. Some of the encryption methods, obviously, take them longer than others, but they can break it if they really want to--encryption just slows them down. If you just don't want a casual eavesdropper or any non-government agency listening in on your conversation, then yeah there are many encryption methods out there that would take them much too long to try to decrypt without having the key (assuming they can't do a man in the middle attack).
Read my blog posts on usability.
Lithium Ion batteries can explode significant lengths of time after being dropped.
I highly doubt you'd believe any evidence they gave.
I would have to assume that the NSA has a way of cracking it themselves, as historically the NSA does not approve any encryption method unless they can crack it themselves. Similarly, "The design and strength of all key lengths of the AES algorithm (i.e., 128, 192 and 256) are sufficient to protect classified information up to the SECRET level. TOP SECRET information will require use of either the 192 or 256 key lengths. The implementation of AES in products intended to protect national security systems and/or information must be reviewed and certified by NSA prior to their acquisition and use." (a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryp tion_Standard">Wikipedia) confirms that it is the most secure currently used encryption standard, but it can still be cracked by the NSA and their crypto experts and multiple super computers. They would not encourage something to be a worldwide standard if they could not crack it themselves, but they also wouldn't approve the encryption for government documents unless they felt that few governments/people other than themselves could crack it. Just because a crack has not been published does not mean the NSA doesn't have a way of breaking the encryption.
Read my blog posts on usability.
In communist China, working "side by side" means "in direct and absolute collision course to destroy the capitalistic ways of a corporation" *_* :p
Nice to know!
Because I have BackSlash marked as "dont display" in my preferences here. So now we have regular slashdot, then backslash and now slashback. Whats next, dotslash?
crap how did this get posted into the slashback article? was supposed to be in the memory card article.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison
And while we're at it:
diction: emphasis during pronunciation.
spelling: choosing the letters that form a word.
WTF kind of "diction Nazi" hates on people's spellings?