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Linux Laptop from R Cubed Reviewed

An anonymous reader writes "NewsForge (Also owned by VA) has a short writeup on R Cubed's latest laptop, the LS1250-L Linux laptop. From the article: 'My test machine came with Fedora Core 5, the GNOME desktop, OpenOffice.org 2.0, the Firefox browser, and Evolution mail client. The lineup also includes the normal assortment of multimedia players, administration tools, and games. If you prefer, you can choose SUSE 10.1, various flavors of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and even Microsoft Windows XP.'"

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  1. Re:A bit expensive for a Linux laptop? by joe+155 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    just shy of $1500 doesn't seem that high, it's only £812, which is pretty cheep really, although as they mention in the article, the premium is mainly for the lack of weight in the system. Although if the XP model doesn't cost any more there is also be a MS premium built in, which would be a shame - because everyone will want FC5 ; )

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  2. And why would I want to pay the premium by namityadav · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why don't the no-name revolutionary linux laptop makers understand that unless they sell their laptop for lesser than a similarly spec'd Dell Inspiron, people are going to buy the Inspiron and install Ubuntu instead.

    Yes, I know it's easier to have a pre-setup laptop and not have to worry about searching for ndiswrapper etc for wireless, but the community that the linux laptop makers are targetting actually loves such challenges.

    Okay, now I'll get back to trying to figure out how the heck this BCM4318 is going to work :-(

    1. Re:And why would I want to pay the premium by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Interesting

      so they're supposed to perform a value-add service (installing and configuring linux) for free and sell their laptops for less than the volume leader? they might as well not add a warranty since they won't be in business long enough to have to honor it

  3. pre-loaded linux surprisingly absent by eliot1785 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This article made me think of the overall lack of commercial systems sporting pre-loaded Linux operating systems. It's funny that it would take such a relatively small company as this to even attempt it. In particular, I am surprised that boutique companies like Alienware don't offer their models with Linux or with a Linux-Windows dual-boot. People who are willing to shell out thousands for an SLI notebook are (relatively) likely to be interested in Linux. And if you dual-boot with Windows, what's the loss?

    One of the biggest reasons why Linux has not reached a wider audience is the difficulty of installation and configuration, which involves partitioning, potentially compiling drivers, and other things that can take some time. It also requires a decent amount of technical knowledge. If Linux came pre-installed, casual users would be a lot more inclined to give it a try.

    My guess is the reason they are charging so much is that a laptop preloaded with Linux is very much a novelty, so they can.

    1. Re:pre-loaded linux surprisingly absent by namityadav · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Companies like Alienware have their name in the world of gamers who aren't competent enough (or motivated enough) to build their own machines ... and in case of laptops, those who aren't aware that Alienware does nothing but badge Clevo machines as theirs and charges a premium. So I don't really think that Alienware is going to be the first big-brand to sell Linux based laptops (Keeping in mind that thier biggest selling point is PC Gaming). Lack of PC Gaming on Linux is the reason why I don't buy the argument that "People who are willing to shell out thousands for an SLI notebook are likely to be interested in Linux". SLI is absolutely useless for those people in Linux (Now someone will respond with some uses of SLI on Linux .. but come on, how many people are going to setup SLI and then use Linux?). However a company like HP should have enough reasons to start selling a linux laptop which just works and has all the bells and whistles out of the box. Being considered a linux friendly company is going to be very helpful for them as they'll win a soft corner in the hearts of IT folks (Even those who influence the purchase of machines at their work-places). However since no big company sells a linux laptop (or personal desktop yet), I would have to imagine that they must be saving a huge bundle from Microsoft by staying only Windows. Obviously this must have a 'no dual boot' clause too. What about a company like Novell? Can they be bothered to at least start badging Clevo machines as Novell laptops?

    2. Re:pre-loaded linux surprisingly absent by frostoftheblack · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is precisely why. I went to buy myself a linux-loaded laptop in early June. I found 4 serious vendors, and 3 of them only had a couple models each, and none were customizable. R-Cubed had a bunch of models and you could pick and choose your components, much like Dell does. The price was expensive, I'll admit, but my grandparents paid the bill because it was a high school graduation gift. I got a nice laptop, not the one in the article though. It has the NVIDIA, a 2.0 processor, gig of ram, 120 GB total space (2 drives), and came with Fedora Core 5.

      I think if I had to pay myself, I would have cut down on the processing speed and saved some money. But overall it's a great system, it looks nice, and it runs fast. I've had no problems with it, and linux integration with the hardware is nearly flawless.

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  4. 2 Button Mouse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I seeing right? Are they targeting Linux users with a two button mouse latptop instead of three? This would be pretty much ridiculous.

  5. Re:Stripped down... it's a terrible laptop. by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems like the most important thing to you is playing games. If that is the case, why buy a Linux based laptop? Why dont you apply the same criticism to the OS.

  6. Re:Stripped down... it's a terrible laptop. by massysett · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All these arguments show why it's not a good laptop for you, but that doesn't make it a "terrible laptop." First, you're wrong about the lack of OpenGL support. Intel chips do support OpenGL, and what's more, they do it with fully open-source kernel drivers. Compare that to nVidia or ATI chips which require proprietary kernel modules to get the same support.

    Second, the graphics memory is shared, but so what? That does matter if you're playing heavy duty games, but if your laptop use consists mainly of Web browsing, email, and Vim usage (as is true for my usage) then it doesn't matter if your memory is shared. If that's a real concern, throw an extra 512MB of RAM in there, which is still cheaper than going for a dedicated GPU.

    Third, yes, the screen is only 1024x768, but that also means it's small. The laptop is light and fits easily in my bag. Compare that to 1400x1050, which means widescreen and it means having a bigger panel. It's fine if you want that, but to some people portability is more important than screen real estate.

    Fourth, happiness might be doubling up on 9-cell batteries, but to me, happiness is not having to carry two batteries. Weight, weight, weight.

    In short, the laptop is made for someone with basic computing needs who values portability over power. It's not a gamers' notebook. That doesn't make it a "terrible" notebook, it just makes it a notebook not suited to everyone's needs. The same is true of one of those XPS monsters with a huge screen, high resolution, and dedicated GPU: it's a hulking machine that weighs several pounds more. That doesn't make it a "terrible" notebook, even if it does make it a notebook that I wouldn't buy.

  7. Re:So what? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought the slowest Pentium III that Intel ever made was 450 MHz. That's the one I bought for my first PIII anyway. I remember at the same time having the 'fastest' PII made, which was 450 MHz.

    And I'm typing this on a Dell Optiplex with a PIII 500MHz processor, with NetBSD 3 on Mozilla. (under FVWM, etc.) Go figure. I'm cheap and refuse to waste ANY more money on 'horsepower' when if I have a processor-hungry computing task I can pull another Dell PIII machine out of storage and hang it off a free port on the KVM switch.

    I only have one 'fast' machine for my limited interest in 'gaming' and that's just a shitty Sempron (one of those motherboard/processor combo at Frys for $79).

  8. Re:So what? by kullnd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yea, your right, your gonna run Winblows 98 better than Gnome on this laptop w/ 32mb of RAM... Linux is awsome with resorces, but lets face it, it's much more advanced than Win 98 and that needs to be taken into consideration.

    I think the basis of comparison here was more towards the current operating systems, i.e. Win XP

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