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Ancient Fossilized Bone Marrow Found

anthemaniac writes "Last year scientists recovered soft tissue from a T. rex. Now LiveScience is reporting that researchers have found fossilized bone marrow, the first discovery this this type of soft tissue, in frog and salamander fossils dating back 10 million years. Since the bone marrow was discovered 'in an environment vastly different form the one in which the T. rex soft tissue was found,' scientists now hope they'll find soft tissue in other environments and maybe from ancient mammals."

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  1. Don't! by Eightyford · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just don't mix dino DNA with that of a frog's! Apparently they will have man-babies, because nature always finds a way!

  2. Cool... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... scientists now hope they'll find soft tissue in other environments and maybe from ancient mammals."

    Like archaic humans? Especially Neanderthals. I for one am looking forward to observing the ensuing shitstorm^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H dispassionate, civilized debate between members of the scientific community.

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  3. How young can a fossil be? by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ancient Fossils?

    There's some other kind of fossil?

    1. Re:How young can a fossil be? by pookemon · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  4. Re:Missing links by jd · · Score: 4, Interesting
    mtDNA is shorter and usually more stable than nucleic DNA, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of finding some. They don't exactly need the whole molecule, just enough to be able to determine where in the mtDNA strand the segment belongs -and- get a good idea of the extent of the changes.


    Even if they can just get proteins, provided it's a random sample and statistically significant, they may be able to deduce things about the nucleic DNA. They'd know the proportions of the proteins in dinosaurs, the proportions in likely candidates for nearest living relatives now, and the DNA coding for those proteins in those living relatives. From that, they could deduce, using reverse-engineering techniques, what changes would have been needed to go from the ratios of the past to the ratios of the present.

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  5. Any palentologists in the house? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All we ever seem to see about the soft tissue claim is references back to the original press release. What claims have been published in the peer reviewed literature, and how have those claims been received?

    As I understand it, what actually happened is that there was some "stuff" in the holes where blood vessels formerly flowed through the leg bones, and it came out when a solvent was applied. Then came the press release; I haven't seen any stories about the eventual analysis of the material, and the lengthening silence makes me wonder whether the press release was a jumped conclusion.

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    1. Re:Any palentologists in the house? by johane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here is a reference to a piece in Science:

      Schweitzer MH, Wittmeyer JL, Horner JR, Toporski JB. 2005. Soft Tissue Vessels and Cellular Preservation in Tyrannosaurus rex. Science 307: 1952-1955.

  6. Re: While looking for more information, by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Funny

    > I stumbled on a report that we're "returning" 42 cartons of dinosaur eggs to China. Is that propoganda?

    It's a subtext metaphor: we are giving them "42" - the secret of Life, the Universe, and Everything - which is symbolic of the continual flow of our technology and military secrets to them.

    Now you try it: what would the subtext be if the report had said 69 cartons of dinosaur eggs?

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  7. Re:How young can a fossil be? ... a few months :) by HarmlessScenery · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.mothershiptonscave.com/the_petrifying_w ell.htm

    If you read the article, teddy bears are 'fossilised' in a few months :)