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An anonymous reader writes "Popular Science is running a story about a small company trying to take advantage of all the global warming hype. Matteran Energy uses 'thermal-collection technology to heat a synthetic fluid with a very low boiling point (around 58F), creating enough steam to drive a specially designed turbine. And although a fluid-circuit system converting heat into electricity is nothing new, Matterans innovative solution increases the systems efficiency to a point where small-scale applications make economic sense.' Notably, this comes during a record breaking heat wave here in the US. So has the day finally arrived where I can run my AC off of all that heat outdoors?"

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  1. Carnot efficiency. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    58f = 14.4C or 287.6K

    Now lets be generous and let our panel "superheat" the stuff up to 80C or so, and put the cold reservoir in a bucket of ice.

    That gives us a heat source at 353.15K and a sink at 273.15.

    Efficiency = 1.0 - cold/hot = 1.0 - (273.15/353.15) = 0.226, or about 23% efficient.

    Not great.

  2. Solar powered Air conditioning by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Informative


    Notably, this comes during a record breaking heat wave here in the US. So has the day finally arrived where I can run my AC off of all that heat outdoors


    I guess you're making a perpetual motion joke, but the strange thing is it's not a daft as it sounds.

    You could have an electrically powered heat pump to pump heat into the ground in summer, and back out again in winter.

    http://www.igshpa.okstate.edu/geothermal/geotherma l.htm

    Very popular here in Sweden.

    If you insulate your house enough, the energy required to heat or cool it is pretty minimal, so you could generate it from solar panels, at least in the summer. And heat pumps are 3 to 4 times more than resistive electric heaters.

    As wikipedia puts it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pump

    When used for heating on a mild day, a typical heat pump has a COP of three to four, whereas a typical resistive electric heater has a COP of one. That is, one joule of electrical energy will cause a conventional heater to give off one joule of warmth, while under ideal conditions, one joule of electrical energy can cause a heat pump to move more than one joule of heat from a cooler place to a warmer place. Sometimes this is expressed as an efficiency value greater than 100%, as in the statement, "XYZ brand heat pumps operate at up to 400% efficiency!" This is not quite accurate, since the work does not make heat, but moves existing heat "upstream". This does not violate the second law of thermodynamics, because it takes less work to move the heat than to make the heat.

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  3. Re:Only solves 50% of the problem by B2382F29 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow, that would be expensive. Here (germany) you get 2kW (10x200W) for 9000 EUR

    Next time please don't pull prices out of your ass.

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