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Air Marshals Place Innocents on Secret Watch List
An anonymous reader writes "The Denver Channel 7 News reports that federal air marshals are operating under a quota for reporting a minimum number of suspicious travelers which is resulting in innocent people being placed on a secret government watch list. From the article: 'These unknowing passengers who are doing nothing wrong are landing in a secret government document called a Surveillance Detection Report, or SDR.'"
We don't need no rights. Thank you for the illegal surveillance, "Homeland Security"!
Fuck you.
Put your cry baby government complaints somewhere else. This website has gone downhill and half the articles are about how you think the government is fucking you in the ass. Guess what. All governments have, are, and will always screw you, do stupid things, mismanage money, and fuck you over. Nothing will ever change. STFU and post real tech posts.
Signing-up "suspects" to a list is a quiet act of a malevolent trustee. Disqualify them, and don't accept any perceived and alleged benefit from their actions, don't officiate any thing as property or any Body for their administration. A WATCH LIST is the least of all our problems. Go look-up the Jewish Mafia and how they terrorize North America through their banking policies. Lookup the Mexican Mafia, them having a President and Secretary and Officers in plane site; see all the terrorism they accomplish in Santa Ana California and surrounding south-western several states (not the fscking United States/corporation). Those tyrants make the CIA-created and defected Al'Quaeda look pale in comparison. No need to mention the Taliban, because they are a chosen and elect positive-law jural society whether Bush or Rice like it or not. They travel the military internationally with accusations of terror, spread resources all over the world while ignoring the bullshit that hurts Americans throughout the borders of Mexico caused by the Mexican Mafia.
Those ha ha Shtatanists are hosting another mock child-sacrifice in Bohemian Grove in middle-northern California, so look for a recent coverage of the event. The videos are available from Alex Jones, where him and his buds upload one a week for non-subscribers that can't afford to be PRISONPLANET.COM members.
The offices are not in the United States (plural) any more, the federal corporation simple known as 'United States' (singular), of the United States (plural) has folded into the hands of bankers and banking policy. And what's worse, there will be no more America given every foreign state/State in the world has a claim to a peice by use of a federal lien (Federal Reserve Certificate, not the bull-shit FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE we're conditioned to think is money).
The Prime Minister of Canada, President of the United States, and President of Mexico; have all committed treason by assigning every person/trust into the Pan-American Union by way of the Security And Prosperity Partnership (SPP, http://spp.gov). This commercial venture is advertised to of'course improve Security and Prosperity, but all prior ventuers of the same nature under different or mis-leading title have been tresspass and theft.
Go read SUIJURIS.NET and ECCLESIA.ORG so you are learned to enter the corporate/COURT only upon issue of the District Court via CONGRESSIONAL SUPPLEMENTS TO CERTAIN ADMIRALTY AND MARITEIM CLAIMS wherein is directed that all wage garnishments/seizures on land go through a district court.
Study to be particularly a court of competent jurisdiction, foreign State.
Good luck, it's a long death.
without prejudice
Does anybody know what the requirements are to get off the list, or if there is a timeout period?
There are none. It's just like microsoft's WGA - once installed, it takes a lot of effort to uninstall it and it has a lot of false-positives.
-Palal
There is nothing new about this. If you make a new law, or a new regulation, you need "proof" that said law or regulation is working. Since real terrorists are about as rare as multi-million dollar lottery winners, and since these techniques have a dubious ability to stop terrorists at best, how can you show that you are "succeeding" against terrorists? You have to invent them.
This same thing happens for just about any law they make, if it is gun laws, or drug laws (cause we have been winning the war on drugs these last 30 years according to the government!), or computer crime laws, or enviornmental laws, or whatever. You need to put a certain number of people away in order to look like you are "doing something" about the problem. People want "results", and people behind bars are "results".
Every law needs to be looked at with a cost benifit analysis. Is the cost in innocent people being punished worth the cost to society caused by the crime? Unfortunatly, people think that they can pass a law against something, and there is not going to be a social cost in enforcing it. Laws are a crude and clumsy way to stop something before it happens (laws are designed to punish a crime after a crime, or to deter a crime because people want to avoid punishment after the fact, but not to prevent a crime).
If you are completly against having a terrorist watchlist, then go ahead and complain. But all you people who support laws like these, and then complain when then turn out badly, shut the hell up! What the hell did you expect to happen when you put unconvicted people on a watchlist? What the hell do you think is going to happen when people are punished because of some risk analysis software decides it is OK?
No, the purpose is not to defeat terrorism. The purpose is to look like you're defeating terrorism.
No, the purpose is to manage the marshals. They are doing this by trying to measure how effective they are. The side effect is that it adds noise to the list.
Take off the tinfoil hat. If true, this is just plain incompetence rather than malice.
meh