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Japan Plans a Moonbase by 2030

Aglassis writes "The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) announced at a conference that they are planning to build a Moonbase by 2030. Since JAXA doesn't currently have a 100 ton-class heavy lift rocket or a human transportation system perhaps now is a good time for JAXA to join in with NASA on the Project Constellation rocket program."

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  1. Road Construction by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Under the plan, astronauts will be sent to the Moon around 2020 to start construction of the base that will be completed by 2030

    This reminds me of the timeframes set out by the state construction workers on our highways.

  2. Re:Remember the good old days? by Rotten168 · · Score: 5, Informative

    For one thing, the first moon landings weren't the last. Second, the benefits of a moonbase are a tad dubious. Third, the Japanese are merely drawing up plans to build a moonbase. I seem to recall Bush being ridiculed for calling for a trip to Mars a while back... so don't blame this on the ignorant Bible Belters (as per usual).

  3. Re:Remember the good old days? by The+Great+Pretender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seem to recall Bush always being ridiculed, for everything

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    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
  4. Re:But are they sending any sailors there? by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The literal definition of Astronaut is Star Sailor...

  5. Re:But are they sending any sailors there? by purfledspruce · · Score: 5, Informative
    Umm....no? I'm not a "rocket scientist," but I am an engineer who specializes in technology development at NASA...and, in fact, we don't have a lot of the technologies that we used to have.

    Here's a "for instance" -- you need a deeply throtleable rocket engine to safely land a vehicle on the Moon. We had one on the LEM in Apollo, but it hasn't been built in 35 years. There are no CAD models of such an engine; the plans have been lost; the manufacturing isn't around; the rocket will be made with different materials, and will need a complete redesign anyway.

    Another "for instance" -- space suits have been made for in-space only use. We need to develop a space suit that can walk on the Moon again. There are no plans, the materials are all different, and the suit will need to be designed and tested. As noted by a later post, this is a particularly difficult technology, as it has to deal with lunar dust--basically microscopic shards of volcanic glass that have never had their edges dulled by contact with air. Some of the Apollo astronauts were barely able to move their suits by the end of a 3 day long stay on the surface of the Moon--how would a lunar astronaut survive a six-month stay?

    Another "for instance" -- no Saturn 5? how are we supposed to launch something into lunar transit?

    Another "for instance" -- the Earth reentry vehicle will be travelling at 10-12 km/s. That's kilometers per second! Even if we had the drawings, the materials used in Apollo's heat shield have been deemed unsafe for the environment. We've got to find and test a replacement.

    And those are the critical technologies from off the top of my head, not counting the technologies needed for a human habitat for use on the Moon...which would likely require a nuclear fission power plant to make it through the 14 day lunar night. Besides the technical problems of designing and building a fission power system to operate in 1/6g, can you imagine what would happen if NASA tried to launch a nuclear fission power plant? Cassini had large protests, and it had only radioisotope power, a nuclear power system that has survived a launch failure!

    Bottom line is that we do not have the technologies needed for a lunar base, and it will cost a LOT of money and take quite a lot of time to develop them.

  6. What a difference 44 years makes! by pashdown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1962 - "We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

    2006 - "Its too hard and too expensive."