U.S. Senate Ratifies Cybercrime Treaty

espo812 writes "A story from Washingtonpost.com says, 'The Senate has ratified a treaty under which the United States will join more than 40 other countries, mainly from Europe, in fighting crimes committed via the Internet.' Ars Technica says it's the 'World's Worst Internet Law.'" From the Ars story: "According to the EFF, 'The treaty requires that the U.S. government help enforce other countries' 'cybercrime' laws--even if the act being prosecuted is not illegal in the United States. That means that countries that have laws limiting free speech on the Net could oblige the F.B.I. to uncover the identities of anonymous U.S. critics, or monitor their communications on behalf of foreign governments. American ISPs would be obliged to obey other jurisdictions' requests to log their users' behavior without due process, or compensation.;"

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already happened

[Anonymous Coward]

There's a dude sitting in a kraut prison because he dared dispute the holocaust* ww2 numbers. He maintains the numbers are much lower than the official numbers, and that's about it. Arrested, shipped to Germany, sitting in jail now because what he said and wrote violates the guilt ridden square heads laws, which state "whatever the zionists say about the holocaust is true facts". You may not legally argue against any point of their claims. by law. there. they claim he violated that law, and he got extradited, before this treaty happened.

*much as I think the prez of iran is a loony tunes idiot and a major threat, he made one valid point recently. The "homeland" for the holocaust victims and heirs should have been carved out of germany and italy, take THEIR land for some "new nation", the countries that actually produced and ran the camps when their nations were officially fascist. THAT would have been righteous payback, not that weird idea of shipping millions of NON semitic people over to some land they never saw before and "claiming it as their own" based on some ancient crap. That was doomed to failure and problems since day one. Check the headlines-failure. Will always be a failure and a bad idea. Also a major rip off to the REAL semitic people who have lived there non stop for millenia.

they think this possibility is under control

[nido]

Why do you think "the government" sends children to prison for 13 years? (hint: might want to see my last comment).

7. ONE CAN'T HIDE

The seventh lesson I teach is that one can't hide. I teach children they are always watched, that each is under constant surveillance by myself and my colleagues. There are no private spaces for children, there is no private time. Class change lasts three hundred seconds to keep promiscuous fraternization at low levels. Students are encouraged to tattle on each other or even to tattle on their own parents. Of course, I encourage parents to file their own child's waywardness too. A family trained to snitch on itself isn't likely to conceal any dangerous secrets.

I assign a type of extended schooling called "homework," so that the effect of surveillance, if not that surveillance itself, travels into private households, where students might otherwise use free time to learn something unauthorized from a father or mother, by exploration, or by apprenticing to some wise person in the neighborhood. Disloyalty to the idea of schooling is a Devil always ready to find work for idle hands.

The meaning of constant surveillance and denial of privacy is that no one can be trusted, that privacy is not legitimate. Surveillance is an ancient imperative, espoused by certain influential thinkers, a central prescription set down in The Republic, in The City of God, in the Institutes of the Christian Religion, in New Atlantis, in Leviathan, and in a host of other places. All these childless men who wrote these books discovered the same thing: children must be closely watched if you want to keep a society under tight central control. Children will follow a private drummer if you can't get them into a uniformed marching band.

-John Taylor Gatto, The Seven Lesson Schoolteacher

Since those in the general population have been through the standardized government school system, our legislative class (who have been to special private schools, which Gatto talks about in the videos linked to in my previous comment) can count on certain behaviors. There are a few who didn't take to their programming like the rest, but the masses have been trained to snicker and dismiss - "just another wacko 'conspiracy theorist'".

But now we're seeing that the wackos were right all along. Is the conspiracy still a "theory" if there's a ton of evidence supporting it? (not all theories are supported by evidence, of course, but many are, and substantially so)

www.prisonplanet.com/
www.loosechange911.com/ - the official 9/11 story doesn't seem to add up
www.911revisited.com/ - explores the evidence that pre-planted explosives took down WTC
www.whatreallyhappened.com - covers all the classic conspiracies - JFK assasination, U.S.S. Liberty attack by Israel, Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City, etc.

It's often painful to consider that we've been fooled, so we tend to believe that 'papa goverment' loves us all, and wants the very best for us, no matter the evidence that the institution, "democratic" as it may be, has been hijacked.

Re:Well, the term "worst" depends upon whether

[Wrath0fb0b]

With all due respect to the noble goals of such an enterprise, these anonymous networks quickly degenerate into places where child porn gets spread (browse Freenet for while).

Privacy is not a shield behind which to hide illegal activity - allowing them to do so works against our goals (by "our goals", I mean the right to keep you private legal activities private).