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No Virtual PC for Intel-based Macs

Techie writes "Microsoft has decided not to move forward with a version of Virtual PC for the Intel-based Macintosh. The amount of time it would take to bring Virtual PC to Intel would be roughly equivalent to creating the product from scratch, Scott Erickson, director of product management and marketing for Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit, told eWEEK. The article says Microsoft will also be discontinuing support of Visual Basic scripting in the next version of Office for Mac." From the article: "As cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority at Microsoft, Erickson says that as the company develops the next version of Office for Mac, the files will continue to be compatible across platforms, including with the 2007 Microsoft Office System for Windows. VB macros within files will not be accessible and users will not be able to view or modify them. However, the files themselves can be edited without affecting or changing the macros. "

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  1. Brilliant! by Magada · · Score: 3, Informative

    MS is actively fighting Apple, for the first time in many years. They're scared enough to notice, now that Apple is moving in on *their* pet platform. Great and good things are afoot.

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  2. Cross over by Delirium+Tremens · · Score: 3, Informative

    Then you can simply install a MacOs-compliant version of Wine and run Windows builds of MS Office natively. Office 2000 is Gold status with CrossOver. And if VBA support in Office 2000 is not enough for you, I hear that CodeWeaver will announce improved support for Office 2003 soon.

  3. Hold the conspiracy theories... by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Informative

    What some of the pundits (on Macrumours and elsewhere) seem to be forgetting is that what VirtualPC does (runs x86 code on a PowerPC by emulating the x86 processor in software) is technically very different to what Parallels and VMWare do (allow x86 code to run "natively" within a virtual sandbox) - even if the end result (Windows running in a window on your Mac) is similar. A simple port of VPC to Mactel would have its ass handed to it by Parallels and VMWare. So when MS say:

    The amount of time it would take to bring Virtual PC to Intel would be roughly equivalent to creating the product from scratch

    ...they probably have a point.

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  4. VirtualPC = Emulation by Snap+E+Tom · · Score: 3, Informative

    People are confusing emulation and virtualization.

    VirtualPC is an x86 *emulator.* Why would you need to emulate Intel on an Intel chip? What Macs need is virtualization, and that's what they're getting with Parallel and VMWare.

    As far as VB goes, it never worked well on the Mac version of Office for a while.

    http://www.schwieb.com/blog/2006/08/07/news-of-the -day/

  5. Re:Microsoft? Cross-platform compatibility? by guy-in-corner · · Score: 3, Informative
    (Though releasing NT straight at v3.0 instead of v1.0 was really close...)

    It was released at v3.1 (not v3.0), because the Novell Netware cross-licensing terms only extended to "Windows 3.1". Once WfWg (Win16 v3.11) came out, Netware support kinda became a non-issue, so the next version was v3.5.

  6. Re:Now they've got Apple by the corones.. by Dr_LHA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Where are those damn mod points where you need them?

    Office 2007/8/whatever will support scripting, but it will be done using Applescript rather than VBA.

    Also VBA is being depreciated by Microsoft in the Windows versions of Office in favor of .NET scripting. Its quite possible that the new Mac Office will support this scripting as well, making the "next gen" scripting compatible across both platforms.

    The real reason behind this move, rather than MS being evil and "slapping" Apple, is that the VBA compiler doesn't work on Intel Macs, and as VBA is getting replaced anyway, MS made the decision to dump it completely rather than putting a huge effort into porting a part of the system that will go away in the next few years.

    Its annoying to those who rely on VBA, sure. But if you want to support legacy apps, you can continue to use the legacy version of Office.

  7. Strategic by meepzorb · · Score: 3, Informative

    VBA and VB in general, however, are widely used in Enterprise markets for rapid app development and custom one-shot pieces of software (for good or ill--- that's another discussion). VBA in Office is a common way to build custom apps on top of Word or Excel. As it stands now, these custom apps (more common than you'd think) work on either platform.

    Cutting off VBA support in Office-X will take this cross-platform functionality away, and (they hope) make Macs less attractive to enterprise customers. "What do you mean I can't run my custom Accounting program on a Mac anymore?"

    Technical issues have nothing to do with these decisions. This is just Microsoft circling the wagons in to protect against Apple making any further inroads into what they see as "their" business market.

    With the switch to Intel, and multiple ways to run Windows programs on a Mac, the business leverage of the Windows mono-culture is on the decline.

    All MS have left is Office now, with its millions of entrenched users, and they intend to fight like hell to protect that last piece of turf.