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Microsoft Port 25 interviews Miguel de Icaza
Ben Galliart writes "Microsoft's Port 25 blog, the voice of MS Linux Labs and a spin-off from the MS Channel 9 blog, has an interview with Miguel de Icaza where they discuss the Gnome and Mono projects. It is a nice change of pace to see Microsoft go from attacking Novell and Linux to interviewing a Novell employee about a Linux desktop system. Port 25 has come under some fire since they can not always be trusted. Port 25 has on occasion put out FUD such as claiming Microsoft is doing more to improve security than any other vendor and a security guide attacking Red Hat for not providing security updates for Red Hat v9 despite that Red Hat ended support back in 2004. They have also released a password synchronization daemon for Red Hat, AIX, HPUX and Solaris that must run as root and makes several calls to strcpy() (which violates Microsoft's guidelines for doing secure coding)."
Wow, multiple-personality disorder and schizophrenia--that's pretty nasty.
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
Well, if you're looking at usability, then he's right on both counts. If you're looking at reliability, then he's full of shit.
Even the Microsoft CLI is more friendly than Unix, what with the "help" command. Yes, that is an irrelevant thing to you and me, but not to the teeming masses. And, it might be added, there are things that we still must go to the GUI to do on both.
The Linux desktop has become quite usable - but it got there by copying Microsoft, and that is no shit. I've been watching people argue about this as long as it's been happening, but make no mistake, it's been happening. I was there since before the beginning, when the only people to actually have a Unix desktop, as in a place you can throw your icons and shit, was fucking SCO, and they were followed up by Caldera, with the Caldera Network Desktop - which I actually ran. I believe it was based on redhate 1.0 or something?
KDE and Gnome are both pretty hardcore ripoffs of Windows, although GNOME also manages to copy MacOS at the same time.
So, I don't entirely disagree. Unix has some pretty major failings in the usability department, although it certainly has gotten better. Unfortunately, it only got there by copying Windows, which kind of blows the whole usability argument to kingdom come.
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It's worth pointing out that
... like there are snakes on the muthafucka.
No, it wasn't. But I'll humour you, because there are more important things to establish.
Mono is very important to Microsoft's C# strategy.
No. Sorry, but they couldn't care less. Mono is cute, but it makes no difference whatever to Microsoft's bottom line.
Note that
Is that an order?
Mono has better cross-platform support
That Microsoft doesn't give a shit about, and if they did, it's trivial to add new platforms. (Microsoft's stuff works almost everywhere it *matters*, and the 'almost' will only reduce with time [if necessary])
and a cross-platform roadmap that Microsoft totally lacks.
You think Microsoft flail about in some sort of random walk? Ah, bless. A newbie to the Microsoft flaming game, I guess. A tip: do as well as Microsoft in the long term and then come back and lecture us about their roadmap.
With Sparc, S390, and Power support, Mono is more promising than Microsoft's CLI implementation for high-end computing platforms.
Wow. I'm so excited for those tens of people who will benefit from that. Awesome. High end computing platforms, eh? Excuse me while I crap myself laughing.
And with ARM available now and MIPS soon to come, Mono is more promising than Microsoft's for embedded devices.
Because that's competition for Microsoft's bottom line. Yeah.
High-end servers and embedded systems are areas where Microsoft simply doesn't have the experience to do well.
Right because Microsoft's website is never in the top ten most visited websites in the world. And they don't have Windows Mobile running on 'phones all over the place. No sir, no experience there. Pure amateurs, I guess.
If they want C# to have a chance against C and Java in these areas, they need Mono.
C#?
C# is like the tip of an iceberg that has already sunk every fucking last thing you believe in.
C? The early 70s called, they want their language back.
Java? Game over man. People are deserting that sinking ship like
Yeah, idiots like you need Mono. Even smart people who are not into Microsoft stuff are going to need Mono, or something like it, eventually. The CLI/R is winning. Unix / anti-MS lost. Get over it.
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