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On the Scene at Linux World Expo

lisah writes "Though the exhibit floor at Linux World Expo in San Francisco has only just opened, conference attendees are already on the ground in full force. NewsForge's Robin 'Roblimo' Miller caught up with O'Reilly's Media editor Andy Oram, Novell's marketing honcho Justin Steinman, and Steven J. Vaughan Nichols of Ziff Davis Internet, among others, to get their take on what they hope to gain from this year's Expo. He also gives readers a peek at the new Linux-powered Nokia 770 Internet Tablet." Newsforge and Slashdot are both owned by OSTG.

29 comments

  1. Proof that Linux is a market powerhouse by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Stating the obvious, once any industry or niche market starts having expos you can be assured that it is mainstream and it already has a large consumer base. Take AVN Expo for example.

    1. Re:Proof that Linux is a market powerhouse by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree with you logic, but Linux definitely has a large consumer base. The debate over desktop Linux has overshadowed the adoption of Linux in servers and embedded devices. For the latter two applications, there is no doubt that it is mainstream. Linux on the desktop has grown by leaps and bounds over the past 5 years and it is gaining in popularity every day.

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    2. Re:Proof that Linux is a market powerhouse by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 1

      My logic was based on cause and effect and efficient market theory. Ok, all I mean is that to organize something like Comdex or EEE you need investment from the part of organizers, who in turn are only willing to shell out money if they have some assurance of getting returns. Its like advertising. Why will you organize Woodstock III if you knew only loonies and peddlers selling $10 mineral water bottles will show up?

    3. Re:Proof that Linux is a market powerhouse by edmicman · · Score: 2, Funny
      Why will you organize Woodstock III if you knew only loonies and peddlers selling $10 mineral water bottles will show up?
      For the love, man. And the music. But for the love of music, man. Yeaaahhhh.
    4. Re:Proof that Linux is a market powerhouse by sharkey · · Score: 1

      And don't underestimate the feelings of utter freedom and ecstasy that come with shitting in a cornfield.

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  2. Wow, imagine... by tygerstripes · · Score: 2, Funny
    He also gives readers a peek at the new Linux-powered Nokia 770 Internet Tablet.


    Yes, but does it... oh never mind.
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  3. Conferences still work by andrewman327 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is nice to see that LinuxWorld seems to be thriving. Although I am sure that we will get daily /. stories about the conference, the reletively slow first day still shows promise. Nokia's presence is a big boost, and their latest product looks like it is positioned to sell. Linux is big in the embedded devices market and is capeable on the desktop, so it seems natural to me that it should have a strong presence in the less-than-laptop market. This trend will grow much larger after Palm's software division releases its new version of the Palm OS

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  4. Odd definition of 'new' by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative
    He also gives readers a peek at the new Linux-powered Nokia 770 Internet Tablet."

    I have had mine for almost a year now. Some new firmware was released a month or so ago, but the device is certainly not new.

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    1. Re:Odd definition of 'new' by NetRAVEN5000 · · Score: 0

      It's still fairly new. And maybe they made some changes to it.

    2. Re:Odd definition of 'new' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who thinks it's "new" isn't worth reading, so that makes pruning this article easier.

    3. Re:Odd definition of 'new' by PCM2 · · Score: 1
      I have had mine for almost a year now. Some new firmware was released a month or so ago, but the device is certainly not new.

      What's interesting is that they were actually handing them out to media attendees at the press registration desk. If you got there early enough, they'd let you have one on loan to play with for the duration of the show.

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  5. Anyone remember the Zaurus? by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 1

    I have one, and its a technical workhorse. From VoIP to web servers, anything can be made to run on this thing!

    1. Re:Anyone remember the Zaurus? by ettlz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "Zaurus speaks! The stylus is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes blah, blah, blah... Go forth and organise your day."

    2. Re:Anyone remember the Zaurus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but Nokia 770's UI is way better. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sverma/sets/721575942 00373971/

    3. Re:Anyone remember the Zaurus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a fantastically bad movie!

  6. A Judge of how successful Linux is,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is by the size of the Microsoft and or the SCO Stand?

    If any /.'er who is attending would care to comment on this.

    The bigger the stand then the more seriously they take the threat of OSS and Linux in particular...

    just my 2p worth.

  7. Must be the new linux-based time travel machine... by jumpingmatt · · Score: 1

    ...but considering the exhibit floor doesn't open until 10am pacific time, I am surprised there are so many attendees there already. Since I am supposed to be there to man my company's booth, I hope the time machine is open-source and I can download a copy.

  8. Linux is finally going mainstream! by andol221 · · Score: 1

    It's good to see that Linux finaly is going mainstream an no longer is a hidout for geeks. The picture of Robin Miller clearly proves this!

    1. Re:Linux is finally going mainstream! by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 1

      Sadly, it is true. None of these faces are going to ship a single product to the mainstream. Now, we all make fun of Bill Gates for that picture of him looking fruity lounging beside a computer from 198x, but hey- he eventually let his wife change his wardrobe.

      If we are holding our breath for linux to go mainstream, we darn well better get some plastic faced marketing guy up there trying to preah it, not the programmer. Sad fact of life.

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    2. Re:Linux is finally going mainstream! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was never a hideout for geeks... it's a hideout for filthy fags.

    3. Re:Linux is finally going mainstream! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell was that comment ?

  9. Linux-powered Tablet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm perplexed by the use of the word "powered" to indicate the operating system that's running on a particular processor. What an operating system does has never struck me as something that I think of as the equivalent of what the motor does for a vehicle.

    To me the operating system is more like an elevator operator, sitting there in an elevator car, pushing the buttons and levers in response to the various calls from different floors and the various requests of the people getting into the elevator car. He, thereby, turns high-level requests to get from floor A to floor B into lower-level operation of the doors, motors, etc. At the same time, he coordinates the use of the elevator car among different users so that the elevator is shared fairly and efficiently. Now, does the elevator operator "power" the elevator? I hardly think so.

  10. You know... by IANAAC · · Score: 1
    Yeah, but Nokia 770's UI is way better.

    An obviously biased statement with a link to some pics posted on Flicr. Yeah, that'll convince me.

    Look, I too own a Zaurus, but have been looking for reasons as to why I should get a Nokia. The unit really does look nice, but why on earth would I go out and buy a Nokia if it can't do more than what my Zaurus does? Point out some of the positive things.

    How's the battery life (that's one of the bad things I've actually heard about the Nokia)? How's multitasking? How's the selection of applications available?

    All these things, if positive of course, would go a long way to promoting the device, instead of a bunch of pictures and a one line comment that really doesn't mean anything.

    1. Re:You know... by PCM2 · · Score: 1
      The unit really does look nice, but why on earth would I go out and buy a Nokia if it can't do more than what my Zaurus does? Point out some of the positive things.

      The screen really is the big selling factor. I've read thousands of pages worth of e-books on mine. With its high dpi, the text quality is almost equivalent to print.

      I, too, also prefer the 770's UI. KDE has never been able to win me over, and I dislike QTopia even more.

      Also, because it's backed by Nokia, arguably the 770's OS is going to be better supported in the long run. Wait and see, I guess.

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  11. Re:Must be the new linux-based time travel machine by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    It's a clone of Apple's Time Machine.

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  12. MS Video? by djrogers · · Score: 1

    Anyone else find it ironic that /. coverage of a LINUX conference is posted in an MS video format? Sheesh... Now I gotta go get flip4mac installed......

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  13. Re:Must be the new linux-based time travel machine by PCM2 · · Score: 1
    ...but considering the exhibit floor doesn't open until 10am pacific time, I am surprised there are so many attendees there already. Since I am supposed to be there to man my company's booth, I hope the time machine is open-source and I can download a copy.

    Somebody who works at LinuxWorld told me that this conference is somewhat unique in that fully half of the attendees show up early, to attend the conference/tutorial sessions that kick off a day before the floor opens.

    Also, the conference floor might open at 10am but Lawrence Lessig's keynote was at 9am.

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  14. A Shadow of even last year's show by LazloInSF · · Score: 1

    I walked the floor for around 3+ hours today and will probably go back tomorrow for a little while (I'm a glutton for punishment)...comments: 1) At least 70% focused on hardware, when I first started attending this WAS a software show 2) At least 30% of the smaller (both SW / HW) vendors at last year's show didn't "show" up this year -- and the replacement newbie's are probably one-timers at their first show 3) Companies that had had full booths in the past seem to have down-sized to "partner stations" at the HP, IBM, Dell, Novell (Suse Linux), etc. pavilions 4)Only 1 pure-play security vendor, the Romanian company BitDefender -- last year there were at least 5 5) NO!!! MS booth / pavilion as there was last year 6) It was sort of interesting, actually, to note who was not there in full-booth (or in some cases even at "partner stations"): Sun (Schwartz gave the keynote 3 years ago and Sun has been a presence for quite a while), Sybase, Engenera (high-performance blade arrays), and most surprisingly RedHat (sort of got the feeling from the RH guy in the Dell pavilion [the only RH presence I found] that since they own such a large market share they can be arrogant and not publicly interact with their customers) 7) There were pennants up on the dates for next year's show but from what I heard about the Spring Boston show and observed today this franchise may not make it that far.....

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  15. Squeeze Your Way Through The Crowds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 days later and 28 comments! Wow, things sure are taking off for linux lately. They must be overwhelmed with excited groups of people clamouring to get through the doors each morning!