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First Phase of AIDS Vaccine Trials Successful
rbarreira writes "Xinhua online is reporting on the success of the first trial phase of an AIDS vaccine, which was started on March 2005. From the article: '"Forty-nine healthy people who received the injection showed no severe adverse reactions after 180 days, proving the vaccine was safe," said Zhang Wei, head of the pharmaceutical registration department of the SFDA. "The recipients appeared immune to the HIV-1 virus 15 days after the injection, indicating the vaccine worked well in stimulating the body's immunity," he told the press conference.' After the results are further analyzed, 800 more voluntaries may be needed for the second and third phases of the vaccine's trial."
Really, we're supposed to believe the study had exactly 49 participants? Not 50, or 150?
It's not as stupid as you think. I made a nearly-identical post myself.
We might know that a lot of Slashdot mods aren't smart enough to Google HIV and AIDS before modding us down, but that doesn't mean we're not giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Just wondering, who will volunteer for the next phase of the trial? who would volunteer for the first phase? I don't know about you guys, but I'm not so sure I'd want live aids virus injected in me, even if I had "potential immunity".
Nice try. I provided a transcript. And as I said, these people make the same claims outside of the movie, in papers and in other interviews.
"Only an utter nitwit would ever use a single movie for evidence of anything." Single movie?? Talk about putting words in my mouth.
I am serious.
>According to your logic, because smart scientists say something, they must be right.
Isn't that your position regarding HIV/AIDS? That a bunch of TV stories told you so, so it must be right?
>You then try to say that because some things presented at press conferences were fakes, that all things presented at press conferences were fakes. Logic 101, anyone?
As usual, a JREF-style skeptic takes 1/7th of the facts I posted and tries to blow the significance of it out of proportion. I made 6 other claims, and your only other response is that smart people aren't to be trusted.
>The overwhelming evidence for the link between the presence of HIV antibodies in human beings and the development of AIDS is convincing enough.
Funny, all the people I listed say they've been looking for that link in the science journals and have never seen it.
Absolutely not. I'm an committed atheist and not an idiot.
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/
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Mmm, 'nother rude one.
HIV does NOT satisfy Koch's postulates without a circular argument that is subtle but very evident in the reasoning. I doubt you've had the correct training to actually realise this though. I have an extensive training in public health experiments - things are much more subtle than you realise - and an IQ of 154.
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/
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>And yet you fail to provide any of them.
I've been providing them all over this discussion. Start reading.
Or maybe you could use, you know, Google? It's funny, you seem to be implying that I've fabricated whole careers and yet you still need *me* to prove your case.
Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesbian
And you've never heard of lesbian couples (or even lesbian singles) having children via in vitro fertilization? You've never heard of women of "child bearing age" changing their minds about reproducing as their "time" comes to and end? Do you think this might be what the doctor is being cautious about?
Your comment is stupid. Stuuuuuuuuuupid.
First point: I think we're just quibbling about a word.
Second point: I know how these things work it's just the causality HIV-->AIDS that seems to have no supporting evidence. The whole thing is unexplained. 20 years of research has found no connecting mechanism between the two things. This is always overlooked in all of the hysteria. How does a tiny retrovirus do that damage? Nobody knows at all.
Examine the history of how HIV was labelled as the culprit by Dr Robert Gallo. If you understand science you should see that it is very unscientific (no peer review, stolen work, etc) and this sensationalism has caused AIDS research to go off on completely the wrong tangent.
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Oh Hell Yes! Be sure and include the largest demographic in the US! The Elderly! We deserve it! and by the way, until till you hit 65 you are considered middle aged. Further more we have already endured 'pharmaceutical testing/military' via the us gov. in the 1960's when the S.F troops were administered LSD and the civilians of Nevada, Utah, Idaho etc. were invited to get up early and 'enjoy' the atomic testing, assured that as long as you did not look directly at the flash which could blind you...IT WAS PROVEN SAFE. ASK the guys who thought they could fly that chose high rise buildings in downtown San Francisco/L.A. for their solo flights or seeing Viet Nam replaying, right before their eyes ,in full audio and living color as they mowed down perfect strangers, in their hometowns months later. Labeled 'Nut Cases' (Physic Breaks) Then there are the Civilian workers out at JackAss Flats that typed away while the Military preformed their safe Underground tests of the Nukes. Those that are still alive call them self "DownWinders" Ask four generations of NV, Utah, Idaho, Mt. WY if they put any faith in a 50 person trial lasting 6 months is a reassuring warranty to them of proof of safety.
How about those mass murderers, thrill killers and especially the pedophiles that are useing up all those jail cells and tax dollars that could be used for all the vicious potheads, hookers and Ya! hackers.
Test that dangerous stuff on the old, tired, sick and worn out elderly population...there's plenty of them to go around. Besides it would be cruel and unusual punishment to make really, really not fit to live on this planet human beings say "Ouch"!
O.K. end of August Rant!
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