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Teen Creates Device to Track Speeding

An anonymous reader writes "A teen in Massachusetts has created a device that he hopes will help prevent traffic fatalities among teenagers. The unit plugs into a car and uses GPS to track and report on speeding — but only while the car exceeds a limit set by parents, so as to minimize invasion of the teen's privacy."

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  1. Untill... by Spad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Parents set limit to 5mph - track kids everywhere they go.

    1. Re:Untill... by D-Cypell · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is exactly what I would do. Get job, buy and maintain own car, earn privacy. Besides, there is a huge difference between knowing where your car (and child) is and evesdropping on their conversations etc.

      Even at the age of 25 I am starting to think that the world we be better off if children had a few less freedoms. I probably would have felt different 10 years ago however :).

    2. Re:Untill... by palad1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then smart kids will drive backwards.

      (I know, I know... gps, vectors, maths, yadda yadda)
    3. Re:Untill... by bitflip · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why drive backwards? Just turn the GPS unit around so it's facing the other way...

  2. In more recent news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    said teen is tracked down and given a beating for being such a snitch. Film at eleven.

  3. Why only for teens? by OscarBlock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe this should be fitted to the cars of adults - the results could be sent to their local schools to show that they are setting a good example.

  4. Privacy? by alzoron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm assuming they're driving this car in public. Unless they're driving through their room with the door shut how could this be a violation of privacy?

    The car is legally the parents responsibility. The teen is legally the parents responsibility. Kids expect so much privacy these days.

  5. Re:Oh, please. by Chaffar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's called trust. Remember that?
    You'd trust your kids if you actually bothered educating them about what's right and what's wrong. But most parents have outsourced that function to a third entity (School/ Friends/ Neighbours/ TV/ All of the above). We don't educate our kids anymore, we give them Ritalin.
  6. Way to shoot yourself in the foot by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Funny

    Should be titled "Teen creates device to prevent himself from ever being invited to parties".

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  7. Re:Oh, please. by Firehed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd kill for a mod point right now. And by kill, I mean some sort of responsible alternative, since my morals thankfully weren't outsourced.

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  8. I'm not sure that's the answer by symbolic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Much of teen driving problems come from two sources: overconfidence, and distractions. Some states have laws that permit only a certain number of people in the car at certain stages of the licencing process- and they do that for a reason. Teens are notorious for packing friends into a car to go out and 'have a good time', but the passengers become a major source of distraction. Despite what young drivers may think of their abilities, they need to concentrate on driving, and worry about having 'fun' after they exit the vehicle.

  9. Not always speed by Trailwalker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for a large cemetery. Every year, we have two periods when teens are killed in automobile accidents. The few weeks after school starts and the few weeks after school is out.

    These accidents seldom involve speeding. They usually happen in the teens own neighborhood. Losing control of the vehicle and hiting something solid or rolling over cause the fatalities.

    Better driver education, more emphasis on seatbelt use, etc. would save more lives than any speed recorder.

  10. Re:Oh, please. by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As for me, it certainly is my business. They are a "kid", a child, not an adult. Parents have the right to know where, when, who, etc. A parent has the right to tell their child, for instance, that they can't leave the state or city. A parent has the right to tell their child they can't go to a party where liquor is being served or drugs are being used. A parent has the right to tell their child that they cannot speed.

    I'm not saying I'd track the kid, but I will tell them to drive the speed limit, and whether they get in trouble or not, I expect them to follow my rules. Otherwise, you're telling your kid, "Hey, as long as you don't get caught, I don't care if you [insert illegal activity here]." Children need sensable boundaries along with the freedom to be themselves.

    Forget kids, if I lone my car out to anyone, I have the right to know where they are going, who will be going with them, and that they are obeying all traffic laws while using MY car.

    I'm all for privacy, but call me old fashioned. Children living in MY house live under MY rules. As my father told me and his father before him... you are free to do whatever you please after you move out. This may offend some younger /.r's, but a 16 year old who just got their license is certainly NOT a mature adult capable of making their own rules up. With age and maturity comes more freedom. But for a young new driver, I can't see an almost no rules environment where the one rule is "I'm not getting bailed out of jail".

    Would I actually put a GPS bug in my child's car? No. I would rather buy a pre-paid cellphone and hide it somewhere in the interior of the car with a power adapter spliced to the wiring, and let my child know about it. This for safety, not privacy invasion. Car gets stolen or child comes up missing, one phone call by the police to the cell phone company will locate the car.

    Also, let's not confuse child privacy with adult privacy. I find no moral or legal grounding for a child's right to privacy from their own parents. Those who say otherwise are either trying to be the "cool" parent or are not a parent. "I don't care what he does until something happens. THAT'S when I spring into dad-mode." I'm not telling you how to raise your children, because that is certainly not my business. But, since it is your "(hypothetical)" kid, I can already guess you want to be the "cool" parent. Just realize it's a little late to spring into dad-mode when they hit a telephone poll at 100mph killing their girlfriend and paralyzing themselves, because his "best bud" wants to look the other way until something bad happens. There is no "dad-mode". You are either a dad, or you are not.

    That's equivalent to not telling your child to not play with the stove until they get 3rd degree burns on their hands. I'd be interested to hear your comments when you actually have a 16 year old with a license.

    It's called parenting. And you haven't learned that yet.

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  11. Re:Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare you speak about me and your mother like that!

  12. You learn through mistakes by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who coddle their children have them grow into misfits, because they don't know how to act in the real world. On the other hand, people who let their kids run wild have them grow to be criminals and outcasts, because the kids grow witht he notion that it doesn't matter what they do since no one cars.

    You should raise a child with plenty of freedom, but make sure the child knows they will be held responsible for their own mistakes. I was given my own car when I was 16 - but I had to pay my own insurance. And I knew if I trashed the thing, or got tickets so my insurance would go up, etc - that Mommy and Daddy would *not* be bailing me out.

    1. Re:You learn through mistakes by D-Cypell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I couldn't agree more. However, I think it is very important to let the reins out slowly. The jump from getting everywhere on foot (or bicycle) to driving is a huge one in terms of responsibility and freedom. This device seems to be a good way to break up this huge jump by saying, "Yes you can now spread your wings a little, but we will be checking exactly where you are spreading them until you earn the right to take the next step. I wouldn't class this as 'coddling' but more as demonstrating that certain rights have to be earned. I have known several people who killed themselves on the road within a year of getting their driving license and many more who (in my opinion) are lucky to be alive. I was often laughed at for driving at reasonable speed and following basic road rules but if my circle were going anywhere and there were a few cars to travelling in... mine was always full :).

      Managing the jumps in freedom is one of the biggest parental responsibilities. This is clearly demonstrated by all the students who gain their first feeling of independance when they go to university and decide that the best thing to do would be to drink themselves to death.

    2. Re:You learn through mistakes by GeckoX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      _giving_ a 16 year old a car is the STUPIDEST thing ANY parent could do at that point.

      For SOO many reasons.

      Driving a vehicle is a huge responsibility, one which most 16 year olds are not fully ready for, PARTICULARLY if they're just handed the keys...they have no concept of the repercussions. They have no respect for vehicles. They have no concept of the financial end of things. And by GIVING them a car, you take away the chance for them to learn these things.

      I never had my own car until I worked my ass off long enough to buy my own, and pay for my own insurance.

      I was able to borrow my parents car, on occasion, but certainly not regularly. And even then, I had to pay for my own insurance.

      I've never wrecked a car. I've never been reckless with a car. My sister, my wife, her brother...all similar circumstances growing up. ALL of us have respect for vehicles.

      Just about everyone I know though that was given their first car ended up totalling it in one way or the other.

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    3. Re:You learn through mistakes by GeckoX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's trust, and there's trust.

      Trust your 16 year old to be good, honest etc etc.

      Don't trust your 16 year old to make the right decision the first time they're at a friends house, have a couple drinks with the older brother, and have their shiney new car you bought them sitting outside.

      Trust must be earned, and is not a blanket that covers everything all in one go.

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  13. Have you raised a teenager? by shaneh0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I ask my son to see his report card, I don't take his word for it. If he's supposed to be home at midnight, I stay up until he gets home, I don't take his word for it. I make him keep his bedroom door open when he has his girlfriend over to "do homework."

    I trust my son. I let him borrow my car. I trust him to watch his sister. I trust him to stay at home overnight by himself on occassion.

    But if you think a 16 year old won't lie through his teeth to get out of trouble, you're insane. There is no question about this.

    Your comments suggest to me that you're either a child yourself, or you've never raised a child yourself. Nothing personal, but if you "trust" your teenager to act like a responsible adult, you're probably making a mistake. There's a reason that 18 is the age of majority, and not 15, 16, or even 17. If you quit parenting at 16 because you think you've done a good enough job so far, you're just begging for trouble.

    1. Re:Have you raised a teenager? by drunkennewfiemidget · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bull. It depends on the kid. At 16, I had all the freedoms in the world. I went where I wanted, I did what I wanted, and I acted as I pleased. I had earned it, and my parents knew I would behave myself.

      And I did.

      My son is only 5 now, but if I think I can trust him to behave himself at 16, I'll give him the freedoms that comes with it.

    2. Re:Have you raised a teenager? by Disavian · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Preface: sorry if I'm a little harsh. This is meant in good faith, and is not intended to be a personal attack. I am attempting to describe issues I have strong beliefs on/in.

      I ask my son to see his report card, I don't take his word for it.
      A wise choice. Nothing keeps him from forging it, though.

      If he's supposed to be home at midnight, I stay up until he gets home, I don't take his word for it.
      Kinda creepy... midnight's pretty early, too. Seriously, extend the deadline until 1AM and see what happens. Nothing out of the ordinary, I bet. He's going to have to handle staying out late when he leaves home, you might as well teach him how to do it.

      I make him keep his bedroom door open when he has his girlfriend over to "do homework."
      That's just stupid. If you want to make a kid hate you, that's the way to do it. Give up on trying to keep him from having sex; he's going to have it one way or another. A parent promoting abstinance is like nailing jello to the wall. Instead, make sure he (they) has (have) ready access to contraception.

      I trust my son. I let him borrow my car. I trust him to watch his sister. I trust him to stay at home overnight by himself on occassion. But if you think a 16 year old won't lie through his teeth to get out of trouble, you're insane. There is no question about this.
      You'll trust him with someone else's life, but you won't trust him with his own? And when was the last time you saw someone telling "the truth" just because they were an "adult"? Your defense of your actions has nothing to do with the issue at hand; that is, is he mature enough to handle the responsibilities and freedoms of being an adult. Is he mature enough to use contraception, to do his homework, and to maintain his judgement in the face of peer pressure?

      Those are skills you can't teach him; you have to let him learn for himself.

      Your comments suggest to me that you're either a child yourself, or you've never raised a child yourself.
      Have you ever heard of an "ad hominem" attack? It's called a logical fallacy for a reason.

      Nothing personal, but if you "trust" your teenager to act like a responsible adult, you're probably making a mistake.
      Trusting anyone is a mistake, but we have to if we want to live like normal people.

      There's a reason that 18 is the age of majority, and not 15, 16, or even 17.
      Oh really? Tell me why. I honestly want to know why the lightswitch of maturity magically flips when a human has been on this rock for eighteen orbits around a small, yellow sun. Although it is tangental, I suppose you also support the drinking age of 21, and will say that is there for a reason. You would be correct-- it's there becuase federal government funds don't go to states that have drinking ages lower than that. Don't you remember how the drinking age was 18 in most states when you were a kid? If a state feels like standing up for VOTING CITIZENS against the US theocracy, they could. However, the kind of need the money more.

      If you quit parenting at 16 because you think you've done a good enough job so far, you're just begging for trouble.
      Yes. But the pussification of America's youth is complete; we don't let them grow up for themselves. That recent story about UGA students having coupons for booze passed out to them -- oh noes, alcohol! Grow the fark up.

      In summary -- we don't let our kids "grow up" any more. We somehow got the idea that we have to "help" them, when what they really need is to be left alone, and possibly guided. This tool is a symptom of the disease that is parenting in America. If your child can't handle being alone in a room with a girl at 16, what makes you think he'll be any different at 18? Because his prefrontal cortex will be 18% larger? He may be busy with school and activities, but real maturity doesn't come from a textbook, and you know it.