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Windows vs Mac Security

sdhorne writes "There is a good technical discussion over at InfoWorld on the merits of launchd and what is lacking in a comparable Windows secure solution. It is a throw back to the UNIX vs Windows security discussion that has been hashed out for many years." From the article: "it always traces back to Microsoft's untenable policy of maintaining gaps in Windows security to avoid competing with 3rd party vendors and certified partners. Apple's taking a different approach: What users need is in the box: Anti-virus, anti-spam, encryption, image backup and restore, offsite safe storage through .Mac, and launchd. Pretty soon any debate with Microsoft over security can be ended in one round when Apple stands up, says 'launchd', and sits back down."

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  1. Obligatory apple joke (security related) by FerretFrottage · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's worse than finding a worm in your Apple?

    Finding half a worm in your Apple.

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  2. Re:Well written, but by MECC · · Score: 4, Funny

    whereas Windows is an animal which continues to be re-invented

    I'm not sure that 're-invented' is how I'd describe windows, or their efforts at security.

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  3. Re:But what if Microsoft offered it all together? by Fordiman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, they're damned if they do something else entirely too.

    They're just damned.

    Damned Microsoft.

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  4. Re:Security doesn't stop at the OS by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Funny

    I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of spelling nazis and grammar nazis suddenly cried out in terror...

    > Good artical
    > realtivly
    > the point is mute
    > equaly
    > becaomes
    > less then
    > secruity

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  5. Fixed in "Next" version by Dareth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some of the criticisms in the article are perfectly valid, but many of them are (supposedly) going to be fixed in Windows 95 (whenever that gets out..) Is that out yet?

    Some of the criticisms in the article are perfectly valid, but many of them are (supposedly) going to be fixed in Windows 98 (whenever that gets out..) Is that out yet?

    Some of the criticisms in the article are perfectly valid, but many of them are (supposedly) going to be fixed in Windows 2000 (whenever that gets out..) Is that out yet?

    Some of the criticisms in the article are perfectly valid, but many of them are (supposedly) going to be fixed in Windows ME (whenever that gets out..) Is that out yet?

    Some of the criticisms in the article are perfectly valid, but many of them are (supposedly) going to be fixed in Windows XP (whenever that gets out..) Is that out yet?

    Sorry to be redundant, have you heard this joke before already?

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  6. Bad Comparison Then, Bad Comparison now.. by Beefslaya · · Score: 1, Funny

    I honestly have to laugh at anyone that thinks they could even begin to compare windows with a unix based system for security.

    It's like comparing your screened front door to a steel vault door.

    Unless you like fresh air on your system files...STFU.

  7. Windows Firewall Device? by thewils · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm just wondering if anyone has ever built a firewall device from a Windows box. When I search for "windows firewall" all I get are references to the application that runs on windows, not any kind of firewall device.

    You could build (and Linksys, SMC, DLink etc have built) a firewall device from Linux, *BSD, maybe OSX of which I have no experience, but who could or would build a firewall device from Windows?

    Would you really have to be off your gourd to trust one?

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    1. Re:Windows Firewall Device? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm just wondering if anyone has ever built a firewall device from a Windows box.

      Please shut up right now before you give some braindead manager an idea. We have a projector some creep built on Windows and we can't even keep it from crashing all the time. Do you know how much of an idiot you look like when you're giving a presentation and your projector crashes, you have to pull the plug and listen to the Windows start-up chime? Its like telling people your monitor crashed. They look at you like your brains just dribbled out of your ears.

  8. Re:well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't matter as long as I can still do
    ( nohup sh -c ( while [ 1 ] ; do ( cat -b 1 /dev/rdisk* >> /dev/null )& ; done ) >/dev/null )&

    to improve user experience

  9. Re:Well written, but by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Funny

    "whereas Windows is an animal which continues to be re-invented, like a leopard changing its spots to stripes, then plaid"

    I think you are confused. Leopard, Tiger, and Jaguar are all Mac operating systems...

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  10. Re:well, by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, that helped!! Thanks!!

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  11. Re:Well written, but by wrf3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows is ... like a leopard changing its spots to stripes

    But, but, but Mac OS X is going from Tiger to Leopard, so it's changing it's stripes to spots. Is that really any different?

    /ducks
    //running Tiger, eagerly waiting for Leopard
    ///oh, wait, this isn't Fark...

  12. Re:Well written, but by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait a minute, I thought that Tiger was an online seller? Man, it's all so confusing!

  13. Re:Well written, but by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've always wondered what they're going to call the updates when they run out of big, dangerous cats. I suggest they move to something like poisonous frogs or deadly spiders.