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Microsoft Changes Office 2007 Interface Again

daria42 writes "Microsoft has modified its interface for Office 2007 yet again, after complaints from beta testers that the 'ribbon' system took up too much space on screen. The article discusses the resistance the new interface is likely to prompt in old users of the software, both at a personal and corporate level. From a format perspective, there are other changes to expect as well." From the article: "Hodgson also confirmed that Microsoft is working on tools to help enterprises automatically translate existing documents into new file formats being introduced in Office 2007. 'We've been asked by a lot of customers to provide tools to do mass migrations,' he said. 'There will be tools that will take a million documents and migrate those to the new formats.' One likely incentive for that migration will be reduced storage costs. Microsoft claims that file sizes for the new Office 2007 XML-based formats are up to 75 percent less than existing Office formats."

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  1. Too much room? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    But you already get more document space than you used to with the ribbon UI!

    I like the ribbon.

    1. Re:Too much room? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Informative

      Honestly I think it's good to see them try and revamp a system once in awhile like the menu bar... I always found Office's to be massively confusing for the end user. Is it under Tools | Options? Tools | Customize? File | Page Setup? Tools?

      That's because MS had a chimp randomly assign tasks to menu headings. I'd have recommended they get someone with some sense make that more intuitively organized, not re-do the entire thing and add a whole other learning curve.

  2. No pics by Life700MB · · Score: 4, Informative


    Articles about GUI's without images make baby Jesus cry. Google gives these as the old design, hope it helps.

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    1. Re:No pics by amliebsch · · Score: 4, Informative

      Having RTFA, it appears that the "new" GUI is exactly the same, except you can set it to auto-hide, like you can with the system task bar. Why this is front-page news is a mystery to me.

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  3. Re:75% smaller file formats! by Anonymous+Conrad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well there's a bit of junk in the OLE serialisation format but not a lot.

    The new formats are zipped by default. The zip files do contain the data as XML rather than a binary format which must be a small loss but it's gained back by zipping them.

  4. Re:Call me old fashion... by Anonymous+Conrad · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't feel any desire to get used to any "ribbons" flying across my screen.
    It's just a tabbed large-icon toolbar. It's nothing to fear.

    It's actually very usable when you've learned your way around it (e.g. to edit the header and footer in word you go to the 'insert' tab in Word - hmm?) and many of the old key commands still work, e.g. ALT-E S for 'paste special'. But not in Outlook, bah.
  5. Re:Call me old fashion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    yeah, actually i would chuck all those things out. Driving a motor vehicle without those features is not difficult. With proper instruction and practice taken with care it needn't be dangerous either. Driving at an appropriately reduced speed means traction control and abs are unnecessary. Power steering helps turn the wheels when the car is stationary, something which is bad driving practice anyway. People need to realise they are steering a couple of tonnes of sheet steel and upholstery at breakneck (50mph) speed. It shouldnt be too easy, and it shouldnt be taken lightly. All these 'driver aids' simply make people more complacent. The idea of ABS and traction control is that if you make a mistake or the conditions throw an unforseen problem your way you wont simply crash and die. However, more and more people drive as if the ABS etc are there to be taken advantage of all the time. If on a dry day you see your ABS light flickering all the time as you drive, you are driving too fast and braking too hard.

    2p

  6. Re:Call me old fashion... by Cruise_WD · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always preferred http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/ myself. As fast and as minimal as notepad, with support for mac and unix line-endings, no size limit, toolbar, etc.

    Definately well worth trying.

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  7. Re:What about the bloat? by creepynut · · Score: 2, Informative
    While earlier versions of Office would run just fine on computers with 800 to 1000 MHz processors, and 256 MB of RAM
    (Emphasis mine)

    Are you kidding? I remember running Office 2000 on my Pentium 166 with 64mb RAM, and it chugged along happily. I even tried installing Office 2003 on it, didn't seem like it was bad. It was too far out of date to be used, but Office 2003 didn't seem to complain.

  8. Re:Call me old fashion... by amliebsch · · Score: 2, Informative

    Notepad on the other hand... has it even learned to do syntax highlighting yet?

    Ahhh, Notepad. So small, so simple. But truly, if you want a really useful notepad (that's also GPL), try Notepad++. I've made it a standard part of every Windows install.

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  9. Google Video of new UI by foniksonik · · Score: 4, Informative
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  10. Re:Call me old fashion... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
    and dissappears menu items.
    It also wrecks the grammar in your internet posts.

    Granted, he misspelled "disappeared", but it's quite legitimate to use it as a verb, though usually in the sense of "Pinochet disappeared the protesters". Sometimes Word does seem rather dictatorial in the way it insists you do things .

  11. Re:A million documents? by msobkow · · Score: 1, Informative
    One likely incentive for that migration will be reduced storage costs.

    I read that as "one likely media spin" rather than "likely incentive."

    The main "incentive" is to migrate all your documentation to a new format that none of your older systems or employee's home machines can access -- unless you pay for upgrades. Paying around $300 for an upgrade to Office2K would pay for about 480GB of IDE PATA drives -- per user.

    That's a lot of storage, even with bloated .DOC files of embedded images and spreadsheets.

    Those sites which have "millions" of documents probably hang on to them for legal reasons, such as the financial services sector's 7-year history requirements. They're not allowed to "migrate" those documents, because that would change the archived data.

    I also can't fathom why anyone would want to migrate millions of documents to a new format if the new version of Office can read the older document format. It's not like MS Office tools can directly scan the document repositories used by large corporations -- they're stored with search index databases and accessed through specialized tools, not mounted as network drives.

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  12. old news by pdschmid · · Score: 3, Informative
    The ribbon UI changes are rather old news. They were announced already in July complete with videos: