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EFF Sues Barney Producers over Spoof Sites

PetManimal writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing the company that produces 'Barney and Friends' for harassing the creator of a Barney parody Web site. Barney producers Lyons Partnership has threatened lawsuits over the past few years against Stuart Frankel and his parody site, actions which the EFF says violates freedom of speech and fair use laws. The parody site contains doctored images of Barney, and claims the purple dinosaur is the Antichrist. From the article: 'Lyons Partnership has sent multiple cease-and-desist letters to Frankel for a Web page that includes a depiction of the fuzzy purple dinosaur as Satan. In an October letter, Lyons demands that Frankel immediately take down copyrighted images of Barney. The company threatens to take legal action or contact Frankel's Internet service provider if he doesn't comply.'"

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  1. Re:As a prent of 2 toddlers and an infant... by System.exit(true) · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. Revised Re:The address by AlgoRhythm · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's the original site, the current is here for the intro, and here for the current saga.

    Stuart may relate this on his page (it's been a while since I read it), but from talking to him it basically has escalated, and they chose to sue, because despite an order to only contact him through his lawyers at the EFF, Barney's folks have continued to mail him nastygrams directly.

    1. Re:Revised Re:The address by geckoFeet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Stuart (me) says:

      As of this writing nobody has heard back from the Barney lawyers. This is scary because their letters were obviously sent automatically, and when the computers finally do take over, it's not going to be by controlling the power grid but by sending out legal notices. So the process may have started at Lyons' lawyers. Either that or they're all pod people.

      And, yes, it's unethical for the lawyers to contact me directly after I have an attorney of record in the case and, yes, we've filed an ethics complaint about that.

      And, yes, the whole thing is ridiculous, which is why I put a little explanation on my home page, namely:

      " This is my little corner of the web, and the bullies can't have it. There's nothing more to it than that. "

      And that's all there is to it.

      Stuart Frankel

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  3. 1st Amendment and Parody by Stranger4U · · Score: 2, Informative

    The US Court System has previously ruled (need a reference here) that parody is protected under the First Amendment. That's how people like Weird Al get away with what they do. I doubt that the website seriously considers Barney to be either Satan or the Antichrist, so it's a parody, it's protect, no lawsuit.

    I'm sure all the lawyers know this and were just trying to bully the website into closing, knowing they couldn't win a trial.

    1. Re:1st Amendment and Parody by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative


      He was asking permission long before there were "gangsta rappers"; Prince has always refused to grant permission, so he paradied his videos, because video images have much weaker protections. Parady is not a magic wand that protects everything you do in its name..

      No it's not, but it's also very clear that what Weird Al does IS protected by fair use. It's probbably not a lot of fun being sued all the time, even though you know you'll win the suit.

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  4. The site in question by SirClicksalot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Couldn't find it in the linked article, found it on EFF page:
    original site
    site after complaint

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  5. Re:Barney's got a brand new bag by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    What pisses me off is /. didn't link to the site, and the article didn't link to it either. Either they are all afraid of getting sued, or they don't want me to SEE the actual site and make up my own mind whether the site is "parody" (fair use), "satire" (not fair use) or something else.

    I did finally find it at this address and did a whois to make sure the domain is owned by Stuart Frankel. Not much here except some dead links (other threatened sites?) and what appears to be Fair Use to me, but IANAL.

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  6. Re:Hmm. by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe the concept of fair use specifically and clearly covers exactly the situation you describe - modifying a copywrited work for parody or satire. Check the "Wind Done Gone" case.

    The doctored photos of Kerry were different - they weren't satire or parody. And the furor over them wasn't about copyright violation - it was over the intent to deceive.

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  7. Re:One Line Of Legal Defense by uncoveror · · Score: 2, Informative
    If a parody calling Barney the anitchrist is funny, how about a parody calling him an Al-Qaeda terrorist? I did that, and got a similar nastygram. To publicize these events, I published this and this.

    I hope the EFF really lays the smack down on Lyons Partnership.

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  8. Re:Let's back up from this a bit.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    No, this is serious. The issue is use of content for a parody, which is supposed to be regarded as fair use. Lose that right, and you lose the right to do many things. Suppose you criticize McDonald's. Remember, their name and logos are their property. With no fair use rights, you could be sued for using any of them, even for legitimate criticism or parody. So, how exactly do you criticize McDonald's when you could be sued for simply mentioning their name in your criticism?

    Remember, copyright was never intended to be a blanket protection of a work. Unfortunately, many people either don't know that, or they try to prevent others from knowing it, but it's true. Criticism and parody are legitimate reasons to use a copyrighted work. Without the ability to do that, it will be extremely difficult to hold corporations and their works up for public scrutiny.