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Vista the Last of Its Kind

An anonymous reader wrote to mention a TechWorld story about Windows Vista. According to the Gartner Group, Windows Vista is likely to be the last of its kind. "The problem is that the operating system's increasing complexity is making it ever more difficult for enterprises to implement migrations, and impossible for Microsoft to release regular updates. This, in turn, stands in the way of Microsoft's efforts to push companies to subscription licensing. The answer, according to Gartner, is virtualization, which is built into newer chips from Intel and AMD, and has become mainstream for x86 servers through the efforts of VMware." Speaking of Vista, C|Net reports that a new release candidate is on the way. The average tester should expect it by the end of September.

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  1. Last of its kind? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    There'll never be another ridiculously late, overhyped, massively over budget, features touted then dropped software project again? ;-p

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  2. And Linux ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll let you in on a little secret - Linux (OSS in general) is the poor mans porn downloading system, and porn has driven its development. No one prints porn, so forget printer drivers. A few people want to upload pictures of themselves naked, so there are a few camera drivers. Scanners, forget it. USAB keys ? Handy for trading PORN. I don't know how to do it, but if some sort of survey could be done I think you would find that 90% of all Linux systems are used for porn excusively. The other 10% are scientists Latexing their papers, and downloading porn. And don't forget, these are the biggest cheapskates in the world. They don't want to pay for porn or software.

    1. Re:And Linux ? by joel8x · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I always thought that porn is what drove the latest & greatest in internet technology, unfortunatley in recent years that technology has been classified as spy/mal-ware. I wonder if there are any web 2.0 porn sites out there? Then again, wouldn't one of those "hot or not" sites be considered web 2.0? I guess porn is the true pioneer of the internet!

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  3. MS Windows != Every OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because windows is bloated it doesn't mean that all other OSes are. This sounds awfully much like the "Mainframes are dead" and later on the "Unix is dead" (no, not the BSD-troll) predictions.

  4. Summary of article by kjart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gartner analysts: We predict Microsoft will start making OS'es like this.
    Microsoft: Umm, no - there are a ton of problems with doing things that way (even more than with the way we do things now!!!11)
    Gartner analysts: Pffft, what would you know.

    Seriously, speculation can be fun, but I find it hard to take these guys seriously.

  5. Re:Its a word procssor by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . .why would MS need to create so much additional complexity?

    "Trusted" computing.

    KFG

  6. This..this..its not even wrong.. by rufusdufus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What does this article mean anyway? Its a bunch of buzz words mixed together in an apparently random order.

  7. More than 50 layer stack for future Windows? by five18pm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That ought to be fun to work with. What will this stack do?

    However what is not understandable is how virtualization will be helpful. Sure, you can make a virtual machine run only one process (services), but these services need to interact with each other through some mechanism to do useful work. Will the Windows kernel just do this interaction?

    This seems to be oversolving the problem. Service isolation is good, but do you have to go overboard on that?

  8. By what means?! (and spoiler by ndogg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's obvious that Gartner doesn't understand computers at all...well, at least Microsoft.

    They said Microsoft doesn't agree with this vision, saying it's identified problems with integrating data across partitions and creating a consistent user experience.

    And Microsoft's absolutely right on this point. I don't typically defend them, but when groups like Gartner with no experience in computers makes up such ridiculous ideas, I think it's justifiable.

    "Upper layers could have dependencies on lower layers, but lower layers could not be dependent on upper ones," the analysts wrote. "This would allow it to lockdown lower layers when complete and worry less about compatibility changes as it worked up the stack." But this redesign is not enough to ease Microsoft's ongoing development and delivery problems, or the deployment difficulties of enterprises, Gartner said.

    There's no reason they need to resort to using virtualization to accomplish this task. They could do it now with the current NT code, but it works now so there's no need to fix it for the time being.

    It just seems like a waste of resources to completely re-engineer Windows to make efficient use of virtualization that still presents a consistent user interface.
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  9. Garter Press Release not last of its kind by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot today released a report showing that stupid Garter Group releases will never come to an end.

    Instead of critical evaluation or even serious research, the respected organisation will stick by its tried-and-true method of spatial-temporal probability matrix randomisation (marketed under the trademark Making Shit Up, Even If Obviously Stupid).

    At a recent demonstration of this technique, Garter Group analysts showed releases on their drawing boards for next week's bullshit sessions, including:

    * IBM to buy Apple and force the line back to PowerPC, in order to cripple Microsoft's XBox.
    * Sun will no longer release any hardware products, pending a buyout offer from SCO.
    * George Lucas will admit he's a dud and bankroll a new new trilogy written and directed by competent artists, such as Britney Spears.

    At the time of writing, no Garter analysts were available to comment; being too busy trying to find where the crack pipe got to.

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  10. Step 6 of the Software Life Cycle: Death by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Reguardless of what model of software life-cycle you use, software does die eventually. Only instead of calling it "death", software engineers call it "retirement". The retirement phase of the software life-cycle occurs when the product (in this case Microsoft Windows) is removed from service. This happens when the functionality provided by the product no longer is of any use to the client.

    As much as some of us have loathed Microsoft and Bill Gates and Windows, it is quite untimely for all of this to happen. Talk about a private sale of the company, the retirement of Bill Gates, and the recent series of product failures is tragic.

    Even if we never liked Microsoft, it is sad to watch this mightly sparing partner collapse under the weight of mutual self-destruction. Even bitter enemies mourn the loss of their rivals.

    The wonton self-mutilation of Microsoft would be that in its hubris, they kept delaying Vista or Longhorn or whatever it was called in the beginning. Add to that, a list of software patents that while it protected themself from competition, prevented growth and development within the company. Greed settled in because the people in charge were happy making a ton of money with the status quo. Then they started to maximize their wealth by cutting out things that made the company what it was. Outsourcing workers. Removing subsitities and extras (i.e. Vulcan Enterprises which ran TechTV). Shortening the leash of how much code was released.

    As the company became more miserly, the man who was the corporate face of this software empire wanted out.

    We now see it not just as the death of a software product but the death of a corporation.

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